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I Just Want One Goddamn Worlds Without TSM

FlashNeko··28 votes·11,631 views

One Worlds without Bjergson's sneering, arrogant, eternally BMing face.

One Worlds without Reginald talking s**t about how he' is the only "REAL" LoL e-sports team owner and how everyone else should just keep letting him bend or break the rules to do whatever he wants because he's just SOOOOOO IMPORTANT.

One Worlds without the single most toxic organization in e-sports bringing the mood down along with their equally toxic fanbase.

One Worlds where I can root for my region in all of its games instead of 2/3rds.

But it's looking like that's not going to be this year at this rate.

29 Comments

HaIlMonitor8 votes

They haven't made it yet, but holy shit you really hate TSM for some reason. You must be really indy lol.

FlashNeko7 votes

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They haven't made it yet, but holy shit you really hate TSM for some reason. You must be really indy lol.

I hate them because I've been following the team's exploits since all the way back in season two and they have more than earned the disdain I have for them.

HaIlMonitor1 votes

I would like to know about some of these exploits, because as far as I am aware they haven't done anything like even Echo fox who you seem to enjoy of dropping 3 players mid season just because....

FlashNeko3 votes

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I would like to know about some of these exploits, because as far as I am aware they haven't done anything like even Echo fox who you seem to enjoy of dropping 3 players mid season just because....

Well... where do I start?

There's the fact CLG even exists at all because Reginald was so toxic a good number of people found him impossible to work for.

There was the screen cheating scandal at the second Worlds (of which both they and Najin Sword were caught doing but TSM got a light slap on the wrist while Najin got the book thrown at them).

There's the fact that they kept known Racist Dyrus and known homophobic WildTurtle on the roster for so long.

There was Bjergson intentionally tanking his last few games on NiP so they would end their contract with him early so he could get to TSM's bigger money sooner.

There was Reginald asking for special lenience with Bjerg and Lustboy to let them play despite being slow in getting their visas and Riot granting it... and then pitching a giant fit about Team Dragon Knight asking for the same leniency and poisoning the court of public opinion so badly Riot had no choice but to punish TDK and all but bankrupt the organization.

(And before anyone tries to "whatabout" the fact that TDK engaged in illegal practices near the end of their run, I don't approve of that either.)

And that's just stuff you encounter in passing over the years watching the LCS in general.

HaIlMonitor1 votes

lol, you need to look into some of your facts HAHA

JRobin311 votes

You hate them so much that you've been following them?!?

...Dude... following a team is something fans do...

FlashNeko1 votes

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You hate them so much that you've been following them?!?

...Dude... following a team is something fans do...

In the sense that there's really no choice but having to hear about the stuff they do since they're so front and center in the Pro-LoL scene. Not in the "specifically going out of my way to seek out information on them".

Psyrix7 votes

Sneering and arrogant in relation with Bjergsen? Are u sure you are talking about the correct person? In all his years he’s been consistently regarded as humble. He rarely trash talks and in fact generally compliments others or just doesn’t say anything at all.... Even in POE, the guy that consistently claims he and Bjerg are rivals even tho few people take him seriously in that aspect. Even the casters say he’s the “self professed rival of Bjerg”. He’s level headed and calm, but not arrogant or sneery...

TwitchTv AOrval3 votes

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Sneering and arrogant in relation with Bjergsen? Are u sure you are talking about the correct person? In all his years he’s been consistently regarded as humble. He rarely trash talks and in fact generally compliments others or just doesn’t say anything at all.... Even in POE, the guy that consistently claims he and Bjerg are rivals even tho few people take him seriously in that aspect. Even the casters say he’s the “self professed rival of Bjerg”. He’s level headed and calm, but not arrogant or sneery...

I think OP is drunk and mistaken Bjerg for DoubleLift which isnt on TSM anymore

BigBellBrute1 votes

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I think OP is drunk and mistaken Bjerg for DoubleLift which isnt on TSM anymore

DL may be a trash talker. But he usually says it with a genuine laugh rather than with contempt.

FlashNeko3 votes

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Sneering and arrogant in relation with Bjergsen? Are u sure you are talking about the correct person? In all his years he’s been consistently regarded as humble. He rarely trash talks and in fact generally compliments others or just doesn’t say anything at all.... Even in POE, the guy that consistently claims he and Bjerg are rivals even tho few people take him seriously in that aspect. Even the casters say he’s the “self professed rival of Bjerg”. He’s level headed and calm, but not arrogant or sneery...

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree with that assessment, given that some of the in-game comps have been him talking about how the other team sucks or whenever an interviewer asks him about someone he's had trouble beating in past matches, he tends to turn up his nose and walk off in a huff.

Raiyza1 votes

Uhhhh, and you think no other players do that? Gee.

Someone has never paid attention to Jensen, Hai, Huni, Sneaky, oh I could go on.

GeminiRune4 votes

Let's not get that carried away yet. This series was pretty underwhelming even though Echo Fox literally Splyced it - I am dead serious; lose first game, win next 2, "innovate" fourth game and throw all the momentum away. God damnit

My fantasy playoff may be broken already for both NA and EU (THANKS SPLYCE AND FOX - not salty) but the hopes for TSM to not make Worlds genuinely rests in the hopes that they don't make Finals...or a bunch of other factors.

Vlada Cut3 votes

Fml

DrCyanide3 votes

Having watched EU LCS enough, I can safely say there will never be a Worlds without TSM. Even if they're not invited or in attendence, the crowd will chant for them.

BigBellBrute1 votes

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Having watched EU LCS enough, I can safely say there will never be a Worlds without TSM. Even if they're not invited or in attendence, the crowd will chant for them.

The mocking TSM chants from cheeky EU fans will be music to my ears. Of course once quarters are over and EU and NA are going home, we won't hear them any more.

Virgin Ray3 votes

Not a TSM fan but since when was Bjerg arrogant and toxic? If anyone it's Doublelift, but even then they know he's joking. Also if TSM wins summer split then that means the other teams are worse off than TSM facing internationally. Liquid already won and they got the same score as TSM when they were kicked out of groups. It's not TSM alone that is the one causing NA to look bad in the international level, it's NA as a whole.

FlashNeko2 votes

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Not a TSM fan but since when was Bjerg arrogant and toxic? If anyone it's Doublelift, but even then they know he's joking. Also if TSM wins summer split then that means the other teams are worse off than TSM facing internationally. Liquid already won and they got the same score as TSM when they were kicked out of groups. It's not TSM alone that is the one causing NA to look bad in the international level, it's NA as a whole.

With Doublelift, yeah, I wish he'd cut back a little but he does make it more clear he's joking and he's more than willing to let people goof on him in return. Bjerg believes his own hype and acts like he's the poor widdle victim when someone manages to make him eat his words or just fights back against his insults in general.

It's kind of like how baseball used to treat Derek Jeter. Riot tries to keep his image all polished and squeaky clean but if you pay attention to his actual behavior you notice how artificial all that "nice guy" talk is and you see how he's actually a huge jerk.

Jerry SeinfeId2 votes

get a better team then.

TheBentOn32 votes

Yeah, I was really hoping this would be the year. But FOX blew it, gotta hope they get knocked out next week.

The really sad part is I don't see how TSM will be able to top last years hilarious "get gift wrapped the easiest group you have ever gotten in world history and still choke it all away." bit.

Maybe they will get put in the play in groups like C9 last year, but then actually get eliminated in them. That would be hilarious.

BigBellBrute2 votes

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Yeah, I was really hoping this would be the year. But FOX blew it, gotta hope they get knocked out next week.

The really sad part is I don't see how TSM will be able to top last years hilarious "get gift wrapped the easiest group you have ever gotten in world history and still choke it all away." bit.

Maybe they will get put in the play in groups like C9 last year, but then actually get eliminated in them. That would be hilarious.

That was so funny to hear the TSM cult declare that they were always in the group of death and this is their year only to see them flop again.

Yfrappefort2 votes

And there you have it. TSM out of World. Now you can cheer for all 3 NA teams.

FlashNeko1 votes

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And there you have it. TSM out of World. Now you can cheer for all 3 NA teams.

Yaaaaaay

[sg-lux]

Plat HardstuckXD1 votes

I wish it was like Dotas The international. God damn it was great this year.

TwitchTv AOrval1 votes

You must be from EU

BigBellBrute1 votes

Well if TSM doesn't win the split they're in the gauntlet. They cannot get in on series points.

Does that cheer you up a bit?

WoodenCreature1 votes

Why it's TSM's problem that other teams in NA before this year were dogshit and never even contested TSM's first places only occasionally C9 and CLG were making a stand, but that's about it. Can't believe that anyone even upvoted this one.

Kotex1 votes

Why would it matter anyway? No matter what NA team goes to worlds, theyll still be an NA team.

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