It's Hard To Reconcile J4's Character Now

FlashNeko·9/11/2019, 7:09:50 PM·50 votes·20,390 views

It's weird to see the guy who, in the still standing lore, was warm and accepting to people who otherwise would have been ostracized by Demacia (most noteibly an outside/slave, a "low class" citizen, and a freakin' half-dragon) act like a genocidal bigot willing to approve the murder of small children because they have even the slightest potential of magical ability.

I could buy him being horrifically merciless to anyone who willingly followed Sylas since they'd already cast their lot. But he also seemed like more the type who would try to reform the situation at home to make sure another Sylas was never created since he seemed to understand circumstance of birth did not mean a person was not due basic decency.

Lux #5 just kinda feels like "Well, we decided Demacia is irredeemably evil now" so he's just making the policies of his ancestors even worse.

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TheMan2929/11/2019, 7:37:01 PM27 votes

well, they DID kill his dad and many innocents just now.

the truth is that with Demacia's culture, it would be a HORRIBLE idea not to crackdown on mages when something like the rebellion happened. could you imagine the uproar?

J4 is not being a bigot, he is reacting both like a human being and as someone trying to keep the country stable (the comic even makes it a point its Sylas' fault this is happening)

HalfTangible9/11/2019, 9:10:14 PM17 votes

Jarvan is angry, upset, and emotionally unstable for what I hope are obvious reasons at the moment. He also has a full-fledged insurrection on his hands perpetuated by a charismatic anarchist who in his eyes responded to loosening restrictions with attempted murder and public humiliation.

It also seems (to me anyway) that the Mageseekers killed the previous king to keep their power (see Aftermath) and used the mage rebellion as a cover-up to simultaneously increase their own power. This is something that Jarvan probably sees, and is planning to play along for the moment if only to keep Demacia stable.

Also, I'll note that while both are wrong, locking up kids indefinitely is not the same thing as butchering them in the streets.

RyzeTheSmurfMage9/11/2019, 9:40:32 PM12 votes

Demacia has a big flaw yes. Does that make it overall iremediably evil? No. Jarvan's father just got murdered presumably by one of the mages that joined Sylas as far as we know. Demacians already didn't like magic in the slightest. Mageseekers have a LOT of power in ruling Demacia, and Jarvan is trying to keep the country together rn to combat the rebellion. Suddenly freeing all mages would cause even more confusion and de-organisation and even more civil war in the Demacian society. Plus rn it's Jarvan's only big flaw, and I'd say it's a very realistic well done one at that. Also he isnt butchering kids. Not saying imprisoning them is right but its not as bad as killing them (looking at you Anakin Skywalker)

Radiant Wukong9/12/2019, 12:18:50 AM6 votes

Jarvey Dent?

Invexes9/11/2019, 10:23:07 PM6 votes

I'm just waiting for the JarvanIV X Shyvana redemption arc now.

GreenLore9/11/2019, 10:28:15 PM4 votes

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act like a genocidal bigot willing to approve the murder of small children because they have even the slightest potential of magical ability.

Uhm who says that they are killing them? The way it looked in the comic they are capturing the mages for now.(granted who knows what they'll do with them)

DalekZec9/11/2019, 11:22:10 PM4 votes

At least the Jarvan X Shyvana is canon now.

Although I'm guessing Jarvan will go back to his senses, he'd eventually get back to reason because it would be awkward to kill magical beings while his freaken girlfriend is a magical being too.

Anyway, what surprised me more is when Garen discovered that Lux is a mage...and...he just embraced her. For years I've thought he'd disown her or something.

Yordle Gunner9/12/2019, 12:37:53 AM4 votes

Jarvan is acting exactly how the masses react to shootings, Take away the weapons. But in this case the weapons are the people. And frankly Sylas proved him right. Mages are dangerous. They need to be regulated some way. Just like a gun.

The Stripy Bag9/11/2019, 11:11:33 PM3 votes

Welp f#@k this place I'm going to either Noxus or Ionia hell maybe even Targon now because f#@k you Demacia and your lawful stupid self fulfilling prophecies.

hewhodoesnotcare9/12/2019, 3:40:09 PM2 votes

Jarven is doing what the nazi did to the jews just saying. Gathering up ppl not doing anything yet then suddenly find out millions were murdered.

Kendren19/11/2019, 10:12:21 PM1 votes

Im not rly following the story but awhile back there was alot of shit about how Leblanc had most likely infiltrated Demacia disguised as J4, and he'd been kidnapped. Maybe thats why?