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4 LCS Games - 4 Games with Renekton vs Camile vs Rumble with Shen Bans

Cavemantero··3 votes·1,049 views

This is getting really old Rito. Can you actually make anyone else viable for LCS? How many times have we seen Rumble and Renekton in LCS in the past? Is it really that hard to make Darius and others competitve again?

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McFatal1 votes

its fine tho because riot says renekton isnt that strong late game.

so i guess its fine for renekton to win every melee matchup in the game even including some ranged champs.

balanced baby!

GeminiRune1 votes

New week. Same or similar complaints. Plus it's Sunday: the end of the week and for some reason now it's a matter.

Making it simple: Players do not play for you. Not all teams will take risks.

Cavemantero1 votes

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New week. Same or similar complaints. Plus it's Sunday: the end of the week and for some reason now it's a matter.

Making it simple: Players do not play for you. Not all teams will take risks.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I said nothing about risks. Just saying that the same 3-4 champs are showing up when there's plenty more to chose from. There's a reason why these champs are 'go to's' for LCS but it sucks to continue to watch every match with them. It shows their other top laners aren't good enough to make the cut per/se. It wouldn't be a big deal if there weren't, say, 120 champions in the game...

Lacking variety for a game where variety is the main feature of the game kinda sucks wouldn't you say?

GeminiRune1 votes

Players do not play for you.

This is my main point right there. And stating risks in playing these picks is absolutely a part of my point. Flyquest is the #1 example of a team willing to take those unorthodox picks as they've done week after week. Faker himself said in an interview last season (around the Galio pick he pulled) that all champions are viable if you can make them work. Just because any champion is capable of being viable doesn't entirely mean they are absolutely win securing, which matters to these competitive teams, especially the ones that are struggling or just wanting to remain on top. The only exception is when there's absolutely nothing left to fight for: example shown by Team Gates Allorim, a well known Wukong player who didn't play the champ at all until the very last game when there was already nothing to lose.

League as a competitive scene is not always the same 20% picked/banned all the time every game and you know that. A post like this is no different from what's been posted for the last couple of weeks when it started out as "Same bans, same bot lane, etc" and normally those thread posters failed to really look into what kind of picks have been picked aside from what they watch.

If NALCS is your only sample to make that complaint, then that's pretty inefficient research on your claim of "lack of diversity" on a major region scale. And even still, if Riot decided to gut the top 20 used champions competitively at mid season, that would only recreate the tier list and you'd wind up getting those champions game after game until someone got bored and would make another whiny post about it. At the same time, it would potentially throw casual play into disarray. Who wins from that: the viewers who want diversity but don't play the game or the viewers who want to see diversity in the form of different champs in roles only to imitate it when they could do it for themselves any time they really felt like?

As for "lacking variety", pro play is not casual play (SoloQ included). My points above explain that. And with that, no I don't think it sucks at all. I've watched other competitive games with 50+ characters and only 10-12 get used. This is nothing.

Cavemantero1 votes

No. Your comment is stupid and so is your point. Of course players in LCS are going to play to win. But its not because "all champions are viable if you can make them work." That is obviously just a PR comment. This game had a time in season 5 (the Cinderhulk meta) where a ton more champs were actually LCS viable and they took it away. The meta game is so stale...and over a course of seasons that it sucks to watch. Lacking variety is a huge problem and I don't care how much you try to sugar coat or give me the 'just shut up and face reality' talk...there is absolutely no reason why this game has to have only 4 top laners who are the 'go to picks' almost every season. Camile is a fresh breath believe it or not but why can't former top laners be competitive in LCS...and so was singed when Samsung White won.

This is about LCS which is simply for entertainment...not Solo Q which I didn't bring up at all and has nothing to do with the entertainment factor of LCS. This is about Rito not being able to use their resources to breath fresh life into their metas.

Miror B1 votes

If you really want to watch unorthodox picks, then watch something that's not laughably boring/mountainey. LAN is a fun region to watch if you like diversity (with people pulling out things like darius/reksai quite often). High-end teams aren't going to risk their multi-million dollar investment on picks that may or may not work out (meta slaving saves spots). Teams from less-expensive regions on the other hand will try this stuff, a because they have less to "lose" and b because many of the players there probably play it in solo queue anyways.

A Bad Mystic1 votes

I mean they made darius competitive after the juggernaut update, but he was broken as all hell and pick or ban so yeah...

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