So SKT1...
Are they just going to have a skin on every champion soon?
Are they just going to have a skin on every champion soon?
SKT 4-0. They really are on a league of their own. That map pressure is insane.
Can anyone stop them from getting yet another MSI tittle and most likely another World?
Maybe if other teams tried to work hard like SKT does we wouldn't have SKT winning everything. Not that I care though, because I've been a fangirl of SKT since 2013 and will continue to keep doing so.
I'm not sure why people get upset with SKT for winning, they're playing the game and beating people because everyone else makes stupid mistakes that cost them an arm and a leg at a professional game tourny. Maybe other teams should start taking their shit more seriously - the game with SKT and TSM made me absolutely cry in dismay at how TERRIBLE NA region is. They take the game like another solo Q game. TSM sucks so bad. lol
As long as TSM NEVER has a championship skin I am just fine with it.
Yes, skt is always going to be winning these tournaments since Riot allows KR teams to get money from the government
And how would getting money from the government make the players more dedicated to improve at League of Legends?
NA and Chinese players make more money on average? I mean the ones in china are run by bored billionaires. They win becuase the culture in Korea is different and treats esports like a sport, while in the west they are second class. As well as having better infrastructure in general.
New rule before Worlds: SKT needs to change team colors so their skins aren't so boring.
maybe just get a better designer for the world champs
I'm hoping for some KT skins this year, but I'll probably be disappointed.
when Kkooma leaves or retired SKT will lose there Iron grip, he's like the Alex Ferguson of LoL, players are great but its mostly in the coaching and plannning game per game.
Oh Sir Alex. He leaves and they manage to turn a gajillion dollar roster into a perennial middle of the table team.
I would say so sad, but I despise MU. It's sweetness to me.
the roster moyes inherited was actually pretty crap, the only reason they where so good was Sir Alex's tactics, that and getting rid of the backroom staff....seriously moyes come on just keep the staff learn how its structured...dont turn a little breeze into a full blown storm :P
hehe ;)
the roster moyes inherited was actually pretty crap, the only reason they where so good was Sir Alex's tactics, that and getting rid of the backroom staff....seriously moyes come on just keep the staff learn how its structured...dont turn a little breeze into a full blown storm :P
hehe ;)
Dudes, Ferguson wasn't THAT good as you have painted him. People conveniently forget Man U had a great roster and was one of the first super rich team to get fat sponsorship contracts since they happened to be at the top of Premier League when it went global. Ferguson had Giggs and Schole as the core of his teams, and heck when Scholes retired for the first time, despite all the money Man U was investing on the market, they were doing so poorly that he had to recall Scholes with an emergency call to not finish the season at the mid of the table
you forget he inherited a worthless bottom-mid table team he started off incredibly bad and almost got the sack but managed and built it up and created the ManU it is today, until he left after the rocky start they where at the top of there game.
i think you need to read his whole story, if you like football, i dont support united im a spurs fan but you have to respect ferguson and what he did and he managerial skills he was one of the best in the business hands down.
you forget he inherited a worthless bottom-mid table team he started off incredibly bad and almost got the sack but managed and built it up and created the ManU it is today, until he left after the rocky start they where at the top of there game.
i think you need to read his whole story, if you like football, i dont support united im a spurs fan but you have to respect ferguson and what he did and he managerial skills he was one of the best in the business hands down.
Dude, are you really trying to tell me Ferguson's Story? Ferguson is one of the most successful football coach ever, and fully deserved his legendary status, but let's just stop thinking he was elite on every single aspect in his work Ferguson had a huge success because his incredible managerial (at his peak, in the last years Man Utd started to get worse and worse because of the regression in his managerial and transfer skills despite being immensely rich) and above all motivational skills (never forget the Champions League final won vs Bayern Munchen where they came back in extra time period at last second when Bayern seemed to have secured the success)...but his tactics were just the "weakest" weapon in his skillset, he was obviously competent but nothing special there (as more in general EPL sucked a ton in tactics way back and even now is bad compared to La Liga or Serie A), and he had had relatively less success in Europe rather than in EPL - I mean, the two Champions he won are the aforementioned final vs Bayern and the one he won on penalties vs Chelsea with John Terry's mistake when he slip on the match point in the 5th penalty that would have given the trophy to the Blues -
Kkoma is nothing like Ferguson, because not only his managerial skills, but his tactics are top notch too
Kkoma is more like a Greg Popovich
I'm sure Bengi didn't have anything to do with it.
Why stop at only 1 SKT skin for every champion?
People are still salty that KR get's extra funds to make perfect teams while others cant do the same? why are you people so mad at the truth?
People are still salty that KR get's extra funds to make perfect teams while others cant do the same? why are you people so mad at the truth?
If you think organizations in LCK invest more money to its teams than leagues like LPL and both LCS, then either you are reading wrong information or just making shit up.
Why the hell do you think players in Korea leave LCK for more money? Because overseas pay its players much more than LCK. That's a simple fact.
Faker was asked if rumor of multi-million offer from numerous LPL teams were true, he answered yes. Asked why he didn't leave, he said LCK is simply the best league in the world competition-wise and that he still has much to prove to other pro players and its fans.
Teams in LCK is simply better because of their culture not because they receive more investment like you claim. Why do you hate facts?
My only issue is that it make Worlds a little boring. You feel no matter what no one is going to beat SKT. They are currently making that clear with MSI 2017.
At this point, they should call Worlds Koreas. Screw that, just call it SKT 1s and have the players on the team play against each other.
At this point, they should call Worlds Koreas. Screw that, just call it SKT 1s and have the players on the team play against each other.
SKT is SKT because of its brand and reputation from Starcraft league.
Just take a look at their roster now:
Huni was a trainee for Samsung for a brief time after he failed a tryout with SKT. After his stints in EU and NA, it was Huni himself who called KkOma to give him another chance with the team. It wasn't SKT's money that signed him.
Peanut was a long time Najin trainee and even debuted with that organization. He then followed and joined ROX which had 4 other ex-Najin players including its coach NoFe. Peanut almost signed with SKT after Najin disbanded simply because of Duke (ex-SKT Starcraft trainee) who he considered his Big Brother from Najin days instead he was swayed to join ROX which had more ex-Najin players. Once ROX disbanded, he only considered two options: 1) Peanut really wanted to stay with Smeb or 2) win the international competitions by joining SKT which had two ex-Najin players in Bang and Wolf and his idol Faker. After Smeb signed with KT that had Score and Bengi leaving the SKT organization, it was an easy choice for him.
Faker only became pro because SKT wanted him and SKT was the only team he knew from Starcraft league. He signed with SKT despite at the time both Najin and CJ were the god-tier organizations simply because of SKT's reputation of taking care of its players starting from Starcraft league. If SKT didn't go after Faker, he might just be another Dopa playing as Gojeonpa in Korean server.
Bang, like Peanut was a long time Najin trainee behind ex-Najin-greats Locodoco and PraY. He was anticipated as Faker-like talent at ADC position with Najin however, he was a late bloomer. He was let go by Najin and joined Xenics for a brief time before KkOma gave him a call to help resurrect his career placing him on SKT T1 S squad. And we all know what happened once LCK got rid of sister teams making Bang starting ADC of SKT T1 pushing SKT T1 K's Piglet out the door.
Wolf, like Bang was a third or fourth option for Najin organization behind ex-Najin-greats ViNylCat and GorillA. He was let go by Najin and joined a collegiate team that included Hachani and Piccaboo. KkOma picked up Piccaboo as well as Wolf despite he was a substitute at organizations he was with thinking he could groom him at SKT T1 S squad knowing he sat behind support greats. Once PoohManDu retired for good and Piccaboo continued to battle chronic wrist injury, SKT T1's starting position was given to Wolf. At first, it seemed like Wolf was overwhelmed however he is now considered a hybrid of GorillA and Mata in playing style.
SKT isn't KT nor Longzhu where they go out and sign whoever they want. They are more like Samsung in a way where they groom their own or even like Najin where they have a huge pool of trainees. SKT model works because of their brand and reputation in taking care of their players. They invest and reward its players making them the number one organization for amateurs and pros alike. Wins and titles certainly help. They have long surpassed both Najin and CJ in tradition and history and this is hard for me to say because I was a rabid supporter of Najin organization and had chance to mod for Peanut's streams dating back to his trainee days while he was still with the organization.
SKT didn't become SKT of today overnight. It took them years of investment, rewards and gaining reputation among players and fans. Their success isn't black and white like many of you make them to be with monetary investments. If it was, KT should be the ones representing LCK in this year's MSI. I will give big applause to sacrifices made by both players and coaches to keep its team together and continue to build on a tradition that may be hard for other organizations repeat.
Where did you come up with that long-winded response? I never said or intended a lot of the things you implied I did. I just meant SKT 1 is such a dominant team, that it this point it's almost as much a tradition that they'll win Worlds as Ryze gets a rework.
Calm down buddy. Nobody is bashing SKT. I know SKT 1 was an underdog for a time. I don't know what prompted you to write all that out, but it was a moderately interesting read. Did you have it saved in notepad or something? At least I got a history lesson on SKT.
Where did you come up with that long-winded response? I never said or intended a lot of the things you implied I did. I just meant SKT 1 is such a dominant team, that it this point it's almost as much a tradition that they'll win Worlds as Ryze gets a rework.
Calm down buddy. Nobody is bashing SKT. I know SKT 1 was an underdog for a time. I don't know what prompted you to write all that out, but it was a moderately interesting read. Did you have it saved in notepad or something? At least I got a history lesson on SKT.
Really was meant for people who dislike SKT for wrong reasons.
They aren't the money hoarding giant some of the fans portray them to be.
Like you said, they were big underdogs having to arrive late in the LoL scene. It really was their reputation in Starcraft league that gave players like Faker and PoohManDu a second thought of playing for them.
Najin and CJ were the established organizations with CJ being the wealthiest of all organization and it wasn't even close. That statement probably holds true today as they are making their way back to Championship Korea from the Challenger Korea.
One thing I'm disappointed in success the LoL made globally is it made harder for organizations like Najin and ROX to compete without big money management or donors and sponsorship.
Najin management owned a building that hosted numerous electronic shops and just wanted to support those that loved PC based games. That's how it all started for them and reason why they had so many trainees in their organization. By the time Najin management gave its rights to Kongdoo Company, they were in brink of bankruptcy as its management refused to let go of many of their trainees wanting to take care of them so some day they can compete at the LCK stage like so many that debuted ahead with Najin.
Had Kongdoo Monsters kept organization's name Nanjin when they just about inherited the rights for fraction of what it was worth for the previous management's plead to continue to support those that want to become professional players of LoL, many fans like myself would still be supporting the organization. Instead, they disbanded the team and coaches and its trainees and started all over that got fans outraged.
I guess what I am trying to say is to those that think LCK teams have an advantage in monetary funds is absolutely absurd and just about most team in major regions have stable source of income now that money really isn't an advantage anymore outside of number of super wealthy LPL teams.
I don't find myself a complete SKT fan as I along with many ex-Najin player still consider ourselves as Najin through and through. What I do find fascinating is the story of SKT's success especially the part of finding players like Faker and PoohManDu alike. I have always followed SKT even during the Najin's heydays as well as Najin part deux of ROX' success due to Faker. Even closer with ex-Najin players like Duke and now Peanut joining the organization.
What I learned during that time is yes, they do have vocal fans who don't represent their organization well and they seem to win all the major tournaments, however, they have been a top class organization from management to coaching staff to its players and trainees to its fans. They should be the model for all organization in all region. Continue to take care of your players and fans and gain that reputation as an organization and wins here and there will help its cause for players wanting to play for you. Teams like TSM and FNC has potential, but they are quite not like SKT as they make not so sound decisions by its management from time to time.
I do agree the international competition is not quite the fans of different region wants it to be but it's only in season 7 and counting. It will only continue to get better if the fans continue to support and organizations accept and adapt winning model of successful organizations. It will happen sooner than later. Player mechanics and skills aren't too far apart, that's for sure.