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Visual Effects Update: Teemo

RiotSirhaian··1 votes·236,556 views

Hello everyone!

Similar to the recent Jarvan, Lee Sin, Veigar, and Vi updates, we're working on VFX and SFX updates to more champions whose spell effects are in need of some love to get to current League standards and improve gameplay clarity. In Patch 8.24, we'll be releasing VFX and SFX updates for Anivia, Dr. Mundo and Renekton, and VFX-only updates for Gragas (he already received some SFX love) and Teemo. Please try them out on the PBE—especially if you're a main—when they're in and leave us your feedback here!

Today's preview covers the visual effects updates to Teemo, the Swift Scout. (He has not received any sound updates.)

##VFX ###VFX update across the board to clean up unnecessary noise and improve gameplay clarity. BA - New missile and hit impact. Q - Missile is now much more different from the BA and clearly identifiable. Impact is also more satisfying. W - Added some love to the VFX, making it feel more satisfying, with some added leaves and dust. E - Missile is now clearly visible and identifiable. R - Now has an actual explosion that shows the actual AOE range. Yes, it is that big.

All of Teemo's skins have had their VFX updated, with unique shroom explosions where it made sense. Astronaut Teemo should now feel like an actual 1350. Cottontail Teemo received some extra love.

Base Teemo (and skins using his base effects) https://imgur.com/xd6LjfC

Astronaut Teemo https://imgur.com/upxmYMq

Cottontail Teemo https://imgur.com/nhCxnm4

Super Teemo and Panda Teemo's shroom explosions https://imgur.com/aRlaPtA

Video of all the changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqjHnCyealM

Please use this thread to give feedback on Teemo's VFX. Please leave any questions about other champs to their thread when we post it in the near future.

108 Comments

ModThe Djinn35 votes

Base Teemo empowered basic attacks lack the obvious color difference of Astronaut Teemo's, which seems odd. I feel like that should be made consistent across skins as either a color change or NOT a color change -- currently all the other skins seem to shift slightly orange, which I might recommend here. Astronaut Teemo Q also sounds very much like the empowered auto-attack, so I'd look to differentiate those a bit more -- this is somewhat the case in all the skins, but most pronounced here.

Otherwise, fantastic job as usual! I'm loving these.

RiotSirhaian21 votes

Thanks for the amazing feedback, as usual!

That's a good suggestion, I'll see what can be done. :)

ModThe Djinn9 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Sirhaian,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=UfFT2huQ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-01T18:39:44.782+0000)Thanks for the amazing feedback, as usual!

My pleasure! Thanks for giving us all an early look!

That's a good suggestion, I'll see what can be done. :)

Awesome! One other minor thought: it might be nice to see a small on-Teemo effect for the attack speed boost duration, or a slightly more visible pop-out-of-camo effect that helps sell that moment of power a bit more.

IS1c1c176269cfdf1 votes

Maybe you can test and tone the basic attacks down? Like 10% less glow/stroke, volume and sfx pitch (the new sound is pretty high pitch at the end and you have to listen to it a lot) - making his basic attack a little more basic could differentiate it more.

CloakNDaggerX11 votes

I know it's a more recent skin, but could use please take a look at the AA animation for Omega Squad Teemo? It's the easiest of his skins to accidentally cancel before it hits. It feels way more inconsistent than Beemo or Little Devil or even the base skin.

KingDanius3 votes

I actually think it's super responsive.

JogadorJNC10 votes

Holy shit, riot actually hired u?

I remember watching your vids and hoping you'd get hired.

RiotSirhaian16 votes

Haha, yup! It's been a bit over a year, now! [sg-kiko]

Celepimp9 votes

As someone with almost 300K mastery points on Teemo, I'm always happy when this champion receives a little bit of love. I think that all the changes to his visual are fantastic. My only complaint is, if Teemo's visuals are being updated, this would seem like the perfect opportunity to change Happy Elf Teemo's mushrooms into presents. Personally I've always thought it was one of the largest waste of opportunities and have always hoped that the skin would receive this change. Really hope that the mushrooms on that skin get changed, but if not, still a fantastic job done on the visual updates

Spideraxe8 votes

Not sure if its possible but can you guys adds a little jiggle to the mushrooms if you bounce them off each other

Louis Cyphre6 votes

I think every Q animation should share the deep "whump" sound of the base animation--Astronaut doesn't have it.

That noise strongly conveys that something dark and smokey has just happened to you!

RiotSirhaian12 votes

Teemo is not receiving any sound updates for now, sorry! This one is focused on VFX.

Kei1436 votes

Dang, I knew his shroom's blast radius was big, but I didn't know it was THIS big.

The Ecdysiast4 votes

Looks fine. The only question is if this signals a delay on the VGU he needs.

RiotSirhaian5 votes

Since these are smaller updates geared toward sprucing up some of the oldest members of the roster, they aren't really in the same prioritization conversation as how we decide who gets a VGU (where we take model, gameplay, and thematic into account too!)

The Ecdysiast2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Sirhaian,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=UfFT2huQ,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2018-11-01T19:11:35.236+0000)

Since these are smaller updates geared toward sprucing up some of the oldest members of the roster, they aren't really in the same prioritization conversation as how we decide who gets a VGU (where we take model, gameplay, and thematic into account too!)

But surely VGUs should also prioritize some of the oldest members of the roster? First and foremost being the poster child of evil, since it's been two-three years since he was best with items that actually scaled to his kit.

Though for the future, it's best to include, "this has no bearing on VGU prioritization," explicitly in your answer.

Captain Teembro4 votes

As a Teemo main, my only suggestion is that Astronaut Teemo's W should get a bit more effects similar to how Cottontail has Eggs falling down and making a trail. The dust isn't that noticeable. Maybe have some mini asteroids come flying out or have his steps make footprints similar to the moon landing?

RiotSirhaian4 votes

He actually has some asteroids in his W effect! Maybe I can make them more noticeable, though. :)

TeeTohr4 votes

His darts are shot from his mouth ? Cmon rito I understand darts needs to be appearing as soon as possible for multiple reasons but at least align the blowgun with it pls

The Swift Sc0ut4 votes

It looks like Q will be super obvious in comparison to normal auto attacks now, which is good for clarity but also a nerf in even upper level (high gold-plat) play where I can usually bait defensive skills with autos.

I'm okay with this, but can we also get the programming team in on this and make it so blind applies a bit earlier. It feels really bad it never applies to that first auto attack (melee or ranged) an enemy sends out after the dart hits. It feels like there's a small delay from when the dart hits and when it takes effect. I think it has to do with when the animation of the opponents attack starts also being the point it checks for blind and the difference between the attack starting and sending can have it line up so that even though they got hit by the dart and should be blinded they weren't were the attack started. It's a very small window but it feels real bad in close fights when it kills you.

Cðulrophobia3 votes

question! what champions are most likely to be on vfx updates? is there any possibility for Shaco to get one?

RiotSirhaian5 votes

We haven't locked anything yet so far. The only ones that we know for sure are the ones mentioned in this post: Anivia, Gragas, Teemo, Renekton and Mundo.

HEEBEEJEEBLER2 votes

Anivia main here, Any kind of eta for the anivia preview?

RiotSirhaian5 votes

May I reply with our famous... Soon™? :')

For realsies though, we should preview it in the coming days!

HEEBEEJEEBLER2 votes

Ahaha Ill accept that as better than nothing. Anything you can tell me about the possibility of her Legendary Skin Blackfrost getting a new recall? Or is that not on yalls radar. Everything else about the skin I find exceptional.

seafood paella3 votes

I love her respawn after death animation, i’d be happy if they just “backward” the respawn after death animation and put that as the recall

Apex Support4 votes

How about Zilean, I feel like he is really outdated as well.

CptTeemoOnDuty3 votes

I'm a bit late to the post, I saw it a few days ago but couldn't comment. Firstly, I love the update, most of the details are very nice and I like how astronaut changed for the better. But this also lead to a tiny bit of dissapointment, when I got Little elf Teemo a while back, I was hoping that in the future in a visual update his ultimate would be tweaked so he would put down little presents, the skin is quite old and usually these types of legacy skins are more special than normal skins. I understand its only a 520RP skin and I still like how it looks regardless of that, I can only hope that one day his ultimate in that skin become little presents.

Smokin Penguin2 votes

What about the rest of the skins more specifically the Manmo and Satan?

Since those are the ones i have.

RiotSirhaian5 votes

The most recent skins have not received any changes.

ModThe Djinn4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Sirhaian,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=UfFT2huQ,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-11-01T18:49:12.347+0000)

The most recent skins have not received any changes.

This is right and just, because Beemo is already thing of beauty and perfection.

Frappa5 votes

Hey Riot Sirhaian,

Great to see my favorite Champion getting some much-needed attention! Although you said recent skins don't get a visual change, are there any plans to work on Omega Squad Teemo his basic attack animation? It just feels so out of place and especially new players tend to cancel basic attacks without knowing, due to the attack animation being a bit 'wonky'. It really takes away the fun factor for me with this skin. Omega Squad is by far one of the coolest Teemo skin, but despite it being so cool, I rarely use it anymore, only due to the basic attack animation feeling out of sync with the Champion.

Great stuff so far, the VFX looks really clean!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Goldentoaste5 votes

Its generally agreed within the teemo mains that omega squad's AA animation is really awkward to play with, especially with low attack speed. Please look into it in this patch, or in the near future.

Aragøn4 votes

they already have good vfx so no need to change them

CJXander2 votes

There's my boy Sirhaian <3.

My only feedback is for the poison VFX above the head bone, needs to be updated, those bunches of gradient balls are outdated.

RiotSirhaian2 votes

[sg-kiko]

Zapquake2 votes

Awesome work! The only thing I'm missing is a different auto animation for omega squad. Right now it feels so clunky and it's super easy to cancel.

Τeemο2 votes

Very nice changes! Great work! I like the large "boom". This is more frightening to the enemies now :)

Maybe this is the time to fix one point, which is even visible in the video at 0:12. You hear the sound of your auto attack, but the attack was cancelled. If you play, you listen to the sound of your champ, hear the auto, click to another location and .... you have cancelled your auto, because you were too fast. For me as a low elo player this is pretty annoying.

CZM2 votes

how about a Kennen rework?

ModRowanstar2 votes

i like this. many champs have good models but effects need vu and su. good job guys.

ModRowanstar1 votes

And id suggest soon giving Alistar the same treatment:

Sfx update: auto attack, Q, W

Vfx update: q (maybe) and W (w looks just like the pre update ALi and doesnt represent Ali's strength and that he is ramming ppl. something more realistic would be nice.)

Suicidal n alive2 votes

Rework his W- completely, give E active part, make Q actual blind & skillshot, give shroom's ability to bounce on more shrooms as u level up this ability.. Imo is teemo outdated and sometimes I think about something like: Hey, remember when Teemo was annoying? He is joke now, there is so many more annoing champion than him, Im not saying make him more annoying but, available to pick and not be scared of teammates hate u for that pick.. THanks for reading.. love visuals btw, but dont think its enough

Thatelisguy2 votes

Can you make it so the shots come from the end of his "gun" instead of from his head? Is Omega Squad Teemo staying the same?

marc mag mark1 votes

Yeah, I like the changes. BUT ... I still think Teemo should be changed as a whole or at least receive a gameplay update. I don't know how much Riot interns talk about champs like Pantheon, Teemo or Tryndamere for example ... but it really is time for those champs to get updated. They are not fun to play or at least not fun to against and have outdated rather boring mechanics ... if they have mechanics at all. I understand why you hesitate on changing such iconic characters but you guys showed a lot of times that reworks can work, are healthy to the game and still stick to the gameplay theme the character always had.

xBlotter5 votes

Teemos kit is fine compared to many other outdated champs.

Snakemo1 votes

Wonderful! Are these visual updates limited to the skins shown, or will they eventually be cascaded down to the more premium skins (Omega Squad, Little Devil)?

Asking for a friend...

RiotSirhaian3 votes

Only for the skins shown, as the most recent skins are fine quality and gameplay-wise. :)

glow fox1 votes

Is anything being done to badger Teemo? Makes me nervous not hearing about it at all.

Zapquake2 votes

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Only for the skins shown, as the most recent skins are fine quality and gameplay-wise. :)

Hi, just wanted to point out a little flaw in the omega squad skin. Namely the auto attack animation which feels really clunky and easy to cancel

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