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Please Remove GD From The Front Page

Xonra··41 votes·2,092 views

Meme's and Games was at least like 50% related to the game with some LoL memes. GD is just a mess of pointless nonsense, and is over half the friggin threads on the front page now. I come to the League of Legends boards for League of Legends stuff. I figure the GD trolls are gonna downvote me cause that's what they do (and why most of us stay clear of GD), but I would venture a guess that I'm far from the only person not wanting to see the front page cluttered with pointless threads that makes memes and games look like Gameplay and balance threads in comparison.

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Deep Terror Nami12 votes

I agree with you 100%, but the state of GD was that while it had a strong community, it was dwindling. It's content also greatly overlapped with that of Miscellaneous, which had no community at all and why the two were merged after discussions with the Boards Volunteers and the GD community.

The spam will die down for the most part soon (they are only this active because of the change), and as GD gets new users posting regularly we'll get different content from there.

Xonra7 votes

Misc was helpful for posting things that could be somewhat game related but not "gameplay" related specifically. GD just seems like the memes and games version of memes and games (minus the games part). I don't have a problem with GD on the whole, as I was active back on the GOOD GD before there was a boards that killed it off.

The current GD is so off in left field that I have kind of done an "out of sight out of mind", but it is seemingly pointless to have it on the front page. We can see looking at the front page, the GD community is just trolling the boards right now to purposely clutter the front page for the "lols" :S

Truthfully I don't even like seeing memes and games on the front page, but I've gotten used to it (that and I was able to filter it out with FEK, even though I can't anymore), so for me the boards just got a lot less attractive to bother with all at once.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Do you happen to know if there are any plans/discussions about allowing players to customize which subboards are displayed on the main page?

It shouldn't be that hard to provide a checkbox list and filter results for the home page using it?

Bottom Laner12 votes

Half of the front page GD posts are low quality content and just taking up space too.

Xonra10 votes

Welcome to GD. It is just randomness, majority of it not even remotely LoL related, and no way to ignore it now, sadly. Memes and games it at least mostly just rolls eyes, chuckles slightly, and ignores. When I'm trying to see actual LoL related stuff on the front page, I don't want to have to sift through random anime stuff (and I like anime, but not why I come here), random...apple threads to troll, and so on.

IAintDarius9 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/memes/6cLz5EEo-hanzo-would-be-a-terrible-lol-player

M & G posters can't call people out for having low quality garbage.

Xonra10 votes

At least it is referencing LoL.

IAintDarius8 votes

Who cares. You literally admitted to rolling your eyes at bad shit because you have to sift through it. Putting a riot logo on that bag of garbage doesnt mean shit.

Xonra13 votes

It does actually. But I'm seeing you GD people are some odd form of board dwellers who are just so biased by GD you aren't going to care but to downvote everyone who dislikes your non-LoL corner of the boards.

It's sad the rest of us have to be exposed to this for some reason, when we were just happy to avoid it.

Chibi Templar5 votes

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Half of the front page GD posts are low quality content and just taking up space too.

And normally half the front page is Gameplay low quality crying just taking up space.

This works both ways.

It isn't fair that we're getting hate for similar stuff Gameplay has been doing for years. Just because its a league board doesn't mean anything not league related should be shoved off into a dark corner out of the public eye.

Xonra4 votes

They are still LoL related, and not about ice cream flavors and which type of troll is the worse troll, and so on. It might not be GD levels of meme worthy, but at least it is LoL related in topic/content. You not liking it is VERY different than low quality. An ice cream thread on a League of Legends forum is far from "high quality", so please stop trying to take the high road here by pointing the finger harder.

LankPants9 votes

We should be able to select what pages we want to see on our frontpage already. I want to get rid of both M&G and GD.

Xonra6 votes

Agreed. Is why I previously had FEK, but it doesn't have the filter functionality anymore since it changed from a tampermonkey script to a browser extension.

If we could simply filter, wouldn't really care what was on the front page, but given I have to sift through another board that has even less meaningful content than M&G already does, it is a bit bothersome.

Busty Demoness7 votes

And Tundra Fizz (one of our best known members and a warden of GD sub board) is working on restoring all of that. It's gonna take time.

Latitoast6 votes

gd on front page is the best thing to happen to these boards

Xonra7 votes

Yes such useful LoL content to bring to the front page such as:

  • Reposting some random duck post from the original GD before boards.
  • Top GD thread about banning someone from GD, and a flood of insults against said person (despite that not being the point of the thread).
  • A post about how "X has no life", and "what a loser" as the only content in said post.
  • A thread about things people can't talk about in GD now.
  • Someone having to change their Bookmark for GD to GD
  • A thread about what kind of posters are more annoying (Basically categorizing all of the above).
  • A post simply saying a specific ice cream flavor is superior.

Yup, sure am glad GD is on the front page now. It brings such quality content to the LoL boards front page, and totally doesn't just clutter it. But, I'm just being negative, and totally not stating facts.

AHeroNamedHawke8 votes

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Yes such useful LoL content to bring to the front page such as:

  • Reposting some random duck post from the original GD before boards.
  • Top GD thread about banning someone from GD, and a flood of insults against said person (despite that not being the point of the thread).
  • A post about how "X has no life", and "what a loser" as the only content in said post.
  • A thread about things people can't talk about in GD now.
  • Someone having to change their Bookmark for GD to GD
  • A thread about what kind of posters are more annoying (Basically categorizing all of the above).
  • A post simply saying a specific ice cream flavor is superior.

Yup, sure am glad GD is on the front page now. It brings such quality content to the LoL boards front page, and totally doesn't just clutter it. But, I'm just being negative, and totally not stating facts.

Because what we really need is your 0 reply threads about how ranked is all luck and you're actually really good

http://i.imgur.com/MODkpQH.png[]

Look at all of this thought provoking content

IAintDarius4 votes

Holy shit he was a Misc. poster! His cardboard box got thrown in the trash XD

Xonra5 votes

Ah, there it is again. Nothing to actually add, so gotta go be a creeper and dig through people's post history. Let me guess, the next comment will be insulting my rank in solo Q?

Seriously, it is like you guys are trying to make my point for me. Insult after insult, then get up in arms when someone goes "Yeah can we not have this center stage, please? cause this is negative as hell". Sorry, YOU guys started this one, not me. all the negativity and trolling, I call it out, and now you guys got nothing to say but "Yeah, but but...every one of your posts are the top rated posts so...yeah..."

golf claps You are literally proving my point FOR me.

AHeroNamedHawke4 votes

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Ah, there it is again. Nothing to actually add, so gotta go be a creeper and dig through people's post history. Let me guess, the next comment will be insulting my rank in solo Q?

Seriously, it is like you guys are trying to make my point for me. Insult after insult, then get up in arms when someone goes "Yeah can we not have this center stage, please? cause this is negative as hell". Sorry, YOU guys started this one, not me. all the negativity and trolling, I call it out, and now you guys got nothing to say but "Yeah, but but...every one of your posts are the top rated posts so...yeah..."

golf claps You are literally proving my point FOR me.

?

My point was that you're complaining about meaningless content, despite posting almost nothing but meaningless content no one cares about yourself

Pot, this is kettle

Xonra4 votes

So eager to troll you aren't even keeping up with point number 1.

No my point was about non-lol related content, non "meaningless" content. If I was complaining about "meaningless" content, then I'd be ranting about M&G or somethings silly like that. Wasn't my point, and you clearly don't care enough to get the point, as you are just trollollolling now.

Was fine verbally sparring back and forth out of curiosity, now I'm just gonna add to the blacklist, as you aren't adding anything but troll responses and insults that aren't even responding to the actual comments or points being made.

ModEvangele5 votes

Nami Considering it is the first day of a merger and first day of GD having front page access, I expect that it will dwindle a bit and you will see less "clutter" as time passes. Currently GD is excited by the prospect and filling up our new Board (since the merge) and as such activity is high and upboats are plentiful.

I urge you to give it some time before condemning a Board to solitude. I personally do not care one iota for the BS on Gameplay and as such the Front Page being littered with Gameplay stuff would be (and was) boring and annoying to me. Everyone has different preferences and everyone wants to see different things. Boards imo, cant cater to just one group of people, especially when every Board has a right to be viewed. Just because it is not the type of content you necessarily like does not mean that everyone else feels the same way.

I can understand the dislike of it and I definitely can gather your point from your post, but as I said, give it some time and it will slow down and you will start to see more activity elsewhere being posted on that Front Page. It is Day 1 and people are excited. Also, you could come by and give us a shot. Not everyone is GD will bite your head off and not everywhere there will downboat just because you disagree.

Xonra9 votes

Currently GD is excited to troll the front page more than I see them excited about boards getting actual attention. I just don't see the point of it when GDers are flat out saying they don't care about LoL, then why is this being pushed to the front page of the LoL boards?

I think you are giving people too much credit when most responses I see (not just to me) are mocking, flat out insulting, commenting about trolling with apple and waifu threads, and seeing a lot less "oh hey new people" than "lol flood the front page".

I'm sure it sucks for the GDers to have their "solitude", but why do the rest of us have to be exposed to GD because of it? It is mostly non-LoL content, and what's the point of that being pushed to the front page? Memes and games is borderline enough, but as I've said multiple times, at least most of the content is LoL related.

Also so far all I've seen from any GD response is hostility to mocking responses to me not liking GD (Again not just to me. anyone speaking up is being downvoted and mocked for the most part). I'm sure not everyone is like that, but that isn't really important when it is the vocal ones that are like that. Maybe there is some bias from you with GD, I can't say (I don't see your name much), but I'm sure it comes from a place of good intent. It just feels this is "Well we are helping GD get some attention :D", while disregarding the people who don't care to see the random non-lol related content that it is.

ModEvangele7 votes

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Currently GD is excited to troll the front page more than I see them excited about boards getting actual attention. I just don't see the point of it when GDers are flat out saying they don't care about LoL, then why is this being pushed to the front page of the LoL boards?

I think you are giving people too much credit when most responses I see (not just to me) are mocking, flat out insulting, commenting about trolling with apple and waifu threads, and seeing a lot less "oh hey new people" than "lol flood the front page".

I'm sure it sucks for the GDers to have their "solitude", but why do the rest of us have to be exposed to GD because of it? It is mostly non-LoL content, and what's the point of that being pushed to the front page? Memes and games is borderline enough, but as I've said multiple times, at least most of the content is LoL related.

Also so far all I've seen from any GD response is hostility to mocking responses to me not liking GD (Again not just to me. anyone speaking up is being downvoted and mocked for the most part). I'm sure not everyone is like that, but that isn't really important when it is the vocal ones that are like that. Maybe there is some bias from you with GD, I can't say (I don't see your name much), but I'm sure it comes from a place of good intent. It just feels this is "Well we are helping GD get some attention :D", while disregarding the people who don't care to see the random non-lol related content that it is.

Nami Half the people on GD didn't even know how few upboats it would have taken to get the posts to the front page and were straight up surprised to see them there when they got there. Some of them are lighthearted and fun because that's what GD does a lot of the time. I don't doubt some people want to troll, but honestly I see trolling on almost every Board and they all have the ability and access to Front Page of Boards. Saying GD is not allowed that privilege while garbage threads from other Boards are allowed there is silly and pretty biased as well.

GD has asked for front page access since we were brought over to Boards from old forum style Riot Forums. We didn't get it for a long time and now we have it, it's just going to be a bit spammy for a day or so and it will die down, as everything does. To say all GDers don't care about League is silly considering I know lots of them that do. I'm positive some people that post in Gameplay don't actually give a crap about League, probably people in lots of Boards don't actually care about League, they still have access to Front Page.

You saying everyone responding from GD is being hostile, insulting and mocking is really just a byproduct of this post. You literally made a post with negative, insulting and hostile words towards GDers and you expect them to come in here and be all roses and perfume in return?

Riot has decided that their Boards have a place for content that is not related to league. That place is GD (though there is LOTS of league related posting on GD as well). GD is just as much a Board as any other Board here and as such deserves the same rights and privileges as those Boards. I'm sorry you don't agree, but that's the reality of the situation. Your personal desire for only League related content is yours, my desire for a place to BS with people is mine. There is room for both. As previously mentioned, you give it time and the spam will die down and it will just be a post here and there every so often. If you want other quality content on the Front Page, try making some quality content that will be upboated there. As for the downvotes, perhaps people are downvoting you because they disagree with your posts?

I am biased in favour of GD, I am a Warden there. It is my home on Boards. However, I can still understand that other Boards may have issues for a little bit while everything gets settled. As I said, it will slow down and things will go back to relatively normal after a short adjustment period.

We are not disregarding your desire not to see non-league related content, but are you disregarding our desire to see GD there? Boards is home for all types. Give it a chance to level out and work. Give it a chance to reach a happy medium, and if you're not willing to do that, I'm not sure what to tell you at this point.

Xonra4 votes

Disagreeing isn't the same as negativity. Sure some of my responses haven't been positive, but can't really say much positive to "get f*****", or "Boohoo league boards has activity, woe is me, life is so hard now. Get over it."

The responses here have been far more negative than anything I said before they started. Granted I have obviously got baited pretty hard by most of these trolls. I'm sorry people don't like the way I worded things, and I get that, but it isn't any different than me not liking seeing Waifu and apple posts on the front page.

People seem very easily offended by bluntness, when none of my posts started at least from a place of malice, but just blunt fact. A lot of GD posts 'are" nonsense. People are offended by that, but that isn't negative, that is factual. That are nonsense comparitively speaking to the rest of the boards that are LoL related. And you say "we are not disregarding your desire to not see non-league related content" but that is exactly what every single response has done basically. Mocked me for it, insulted me for it, told me "too bad deal with it", etc.

I'm just going to get downvoted more I'm sure cause people don't like any opinion that isn't their own, but is not right there disregarding my opinion? I think YOU might not be disregarding my opinion, but I'm not sure the "we" you are speaking of is in the same level-headed and open-minded camp you are sitting in.

What it comes down to is, I guess I am to an extent disregarding your desire to see GD on the front page because why? You guys got along fine before, and all it accomplishes in the grand scheme is suddenly people can see GD posts and not everyone wants to .So it would just be GDers seeing their own posts the same as they could before, but on the front page with other stuff.

I remember a time back in the day when "non-lol related" posts were even removed from GD on the pre boards forums. So forgive me for being a bit put off by this new GD being just random stuff. I used to love the old pre-boards GD, but this is far from the same type of environment or community.

ModEvangele4 votes

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Disagreeing isn't the same as negativity. Sure some of my responses haven't been positive, but can't really say much positive to "get f*****", or "Boohoo league boards has activity, woe is me, life is so hard now. Get over it."

The responses here have been far more negative than anything I said before they started. Granted I have obviously got baited pretty hard by most of these trolls. I'm sorry people don't like the way I worded things, and I get that, but it isn't any different than me not liking seeing Waifu and apple posts on the front page.

People seem very easily offended by bluntness, when none of my posts started at least from a place of malice, but just blunt fact. A lot of GD posts 'are" nonsense. People are offended by that, but that isn't negative, that is factual. That are nonsense comparitively speaking to the rest of the boards that are LoL related. And you say "we are not disregarding your desire to not see non-league related content" but that is exactly what every single response has done basically. Mocked me for it, insulted me for it, told me "too bad deal with it", etc.

I'm just going to get downvoted more I'm sure cause people don't like any opinion that isn't their own, but is not right there disregarding my opinion? I think YOU might not be disregarding my opinion, but I'm not sure the "we" you are speaking of is in the same level-headed and open-minded camp you are sitting in.

What it comes down to is, I guess I am to an extent disregarding your desire to see GD on the front page because why? You guys got along fine before, and all it accomplishes in the grand scheme is suddenly people can see GD posts and not everyone wants to .So it would just be GDers seeing their own posts the same as they could before, but on the front page with other stuff.

I remember a time back in the day when "non-lol related" posts were even removed from GD on the pre boards forums. So forgive me for being a bit put off by this new GD being just random stuff. I used to love the old pre-boards GD, but this is far from the same type of environment or community.

Nami We didn't get along with it fine before. GD never wanted to be segregated and never should have been. The community was stagnating and that stagnation is what we are trying to remedy and at least partially a cause for the negativity and things you dislike about the community to begin with. More people posting there, more visibility and a stronger presence will help grow GD to be a bigger community that is more vibrant and full of different ideas and people.

The tone of your post and the way you refer to GD were negative. it wasn't disagreeing....it was negativity. "GD trolls" as if there are not trolls elsewhere, etc etc. GD is a community of all different types of people and just because one may be more vocal towards you when you seemingly knock on their home doesn't mean that everyone that peruses there or posts or even considers themselves a GDer is a troll or posts nonsense.

Again as mentioned, the posts right now are all over the place mainly bc of the merge and the changes. It will level out.

You mention that you think that I am not the "we" but you are so sure that the other posters here reflect the "we". That is a negativity bias. I post on GD, I have posted on GD for many many many years. I know lots of people who feel the same way I do about the Board and are as calm and relaxed about this kind of thing as I am. If you recognize that some trolls are trolling you right now, why are you so quick to refer to them as the representation of GD instead of myself who is taking the time to chat this out. Are trolls the only representatives of the entire in game League community because they troll in game? There are many different types of people in GD, lots of personalities and lots of fun, interesting people to get to know. I really wish you would give it a chance without hostility and without preconceived notions regarding who you think posts there entirely.

Xonra4 votes

The LARGE majority of people I saw posting from GD before I even made this thread were flat out rude and trolling. it's just a fact. I mean the most upvoted thread right now in GD is what I assume started as a light-hearted "ban x person" thread, and a large majority of the responses quickly turned to insults, mocking other boards and people directly, making accusations of said person, downvoting things that didn't make sense to downvote, etc. These weren't people I see posting daily on the boards making these comment, so it wasn't just random people, it was GD people.

It feels like you guys are sticking together and taking a high road, and that's fine, but there seems to be a large blinder or filter people are ignoring about the negativity coming from GD, and as if I'm supposed to be welcoming this negativity I saw before I posted a thing post or thread, with open arms. I've seen 2 people respond to me with anything half-decent, that quickly turned to insulting me calling me a "child" and calling to ban me from the boards, with one flat out talking and doing exactly what they claimed I was doing, and you are the only one who hasn't insulted me flat out yet. Literally the only one.

So my negativity bias is coming from what I've seen so far, and when you are one person out of every response I've gotten that isn't trying to troll me, VERY rudely insult me, or be flat out hypocritical, it's hard to see the one good person among the ones flipping me the bird.

If everyone there is above what I'm saying, then why is no one else responding with anything like you are, trying to have a discussion, instead of far more rude and negative things than I've even started to say? Most of what I've seen is flat out proving me right, so it isn't a "preconceived notion", because I didn't have one. I just saw a whole bunch of GD posts, was confused, and started having a look. Top thread "ban x from GD", first few pages were just rudeness and silliness. Next thread I see "Welcome front page to GD!" see people talking about trolling the front page and upvoting troll threads. See threads there just to clutter the front page with troll threads. See one guy who made a thread asking people to essentially keep in mind everyone can see the stuff, not just GD, and people just went on about not caring about everyone else non-GD, more comments about blatantly trolling front page, and so on. THAT is what formed my opinion, and THAT was when I made this thread, not before. You notice this was made hours after, not the minute it happened.

the old saying goes, you can only make one first impression, and my first impressions of this "new" GD is, negativity, trolling, and posts about apples and waifus. Sure there are other trolls on these boards, but guess what, we call them out on it too. Why should GD be any different?

ModEvangele5 votes

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The LARGE majority of people I saw posting from GD before I even made this thread were flat out rude and trolling. it's just a fact. I mean the most upvoted thread right now in GD is what I assume started as a light-hearted "ban x person" thread, and a large majority of the responses quickly turned to insults, mocking other boards and people directly, making accusations of said person, downvoting things that didn't make sense to downvote, etc. These weren't people I see posting daily on the boards making these comment, so it wasn't just random people, it was GD people.

It feels like you guys are sticking together and taking a high road, and that's fine, but there seems to be a large blinder or filter people are ignoring about the negativity coming from GD, and as if I'm supposed to be welcoming this negativity I saw before I posted a thing post or thread, with open arms. I've seen 2 people respond to me with anything half-decent, that quickly turned to insulting me calling me a "child" and calling to ban me from the boards, with one flat out talking and doing exactly what they claimed I was doing, and you are the only one who hasn't insulted me flat out yet. Literally the only one.

So my negativity bias is coming from what I've seen so far, and when you are one person out of every response I've gotten that isn't trying to troll me, VERY rudely insult me, or be flat out hypocritical, it's hard to see the one good person among the ones flipping me the bird.

If everyone there is above what I'm saying, then why is no one else responding with anything like you are, trying to have a discussion, instead of far more rude and negative things than I've even started to say? Most of what I've seen is flat out proving me right, so it isn't a "preconceived notion", because I didn't have one. I just saw a whole bunch of GD posts, was confused, and started having a look. Top thread "ban x from GD", first few pages were just rudeness and silliness. Next thread I see "Welcome front page to GD!" see people talking about trolling the front page and upvoting troll threads. See threads there just to clutter the front page with troll threads. See one guy who made a thread asking people to essentially keep in mind everyone can see the stuff, not just GD, and people just went on about not caring about everyone else non-GD, more comments about blatantly trolling front page, and so on. THAT is what formed my opinion, and THAT was when I made this thread, not before. You notice this was made hours after, not the minute it happened.

the old saying goes, you can only make one first impression, and my first impressions of this "new" GD is, negativity, trolling, and posts about apples and waifus. Sure there are other trolls on these boards, but guess what, we call them out on it too. Why should GD be any different?

Nami Why am I one of the only ppl posting nicely here? Partially because this post isn't on GD (has less eyes from GD on it), and as a Warden I was alerted to this post as a representative of my community I came here to chat. It's also pretty late in the night for a lot of people and not really active time for a lot of GDers.

The posts on the front page are meme threads. What you see as insulting a lot of the time for GDers is ribbing and joking around. Laughing Fish, the person they were aiming to get "banned" is always on board with the joke and the downboats are love. Some people take it more serious, most people recognize the joke that it is. The rules differ there a little bit. I like to think of it as a bar you hang out with your friends at....in Boards format. You get done in a rough league game or whatever and you head down to the ol' GD for a beer and some conversation about whatever the hell you want. Some people get a little out of hand and that's what moderation is for but we don't kick out everyone that says slightly rude things, like some other Boards.

Also you have a couple of people here posting repeatedly. I would hope you can recognize 2-5 people are not the entirety of a community. Judging it solely based on a few threads you've seen on day 1 of an exciting merger and the few people who you yourself have recognized as trolls isn't an accurate representation of a community or it's potential. If you want the front page to have higher quality league related posting then encouraging growth and diversity in all communities on Boards should be important! Being combative with GDers either here or on GD about how much you dont like them isnt likely to get more positive change that you (and we) want to see.

First impressions are important of course, but if we judged everything JUST based on first impressions without immersing ourselves and trying to understand things on a deeper level, world would be even suckier than it is now, imo. Me judging Gameplay or Player Behaviour on a glance would illicit the same response...take that shit off the front page.

We can agree to disagree here, but I honestly wish you would give it more time and give GD a chance. It's a fun place to just hang out and relax.

Xonra3 votes

Are the others acting the way they are not "representing" the community so to speak? you guys drop in what has been (deserved or not) a community of people on a specific board off to the side. Look at some of the responses in this thread to comments that AREN'T over negative I've said. They are the norm, not the exception.

Not all the comments you claim are jokes were jokes. Not saying none of them were, but I won't argue the point, cause you'll disagree and I'll disagree, and it will be that. Also the "like some other boards" comment there, really sort of hits home on a lot of what I'm seeing. If GD is being dropped into everyone else, maybe don't act like "us vs them" as if GD is on a higher level cause you don't ban people that are trolling cause "it's different here". The boards are the boards. One troll isn't any different than another.

I can clearly recognize 2-5 people, but it isn't only 2-5 people. Here I'll count how many different people are actually posting. I stopped at 10, not counting the two of us. That's more than 2-5, despite the passive aggressive suggestion. Sure, 10 people a community doesn't make, but some of those people are pretty active in a lot of the GD threads (everyone one in a lot of cases). I also can't just assume "eh I'm sure this board has "potential" despite the trolls and rude comments". I mean it isn't as if there aren't other trolls and rude comments on the internet, or even other boards, so it isn't as if it is some anomaly that is likely to never happen again, so that seems like an argument for me to just ignore the bad, cause it might eventually be real good!

I get you are biased towards GD, and that's OKAY, but a lot of this seems to boil down to "we aren't ALL really that bad.", discounting my points as negative, when not all of them are, just not aligned to what you feel, and "It will get better". None of that actually invalidates my points, which is mostly why I'm still responding. We are clearly seeing this from two different sides of the fence, and the level of hostility (not from you, because you haven't been) far beyond any comments I've made, is really not helping me want to change my opinion.

Busty Demoness5 votes

Miscellaneous was a dead subboard. Since GD also served the same function (and then some), Wardens/Keyru decided that it was better to have the dead board absorbed by GD.

Now, I can't say I particularly understand why you hate the idea of interests outside of League being posted on these boards or having them on the front page. General Discussion is the place to share those interests outside of League to find increased common ground. Maybe you liked something else but had no forum to really talk about it on. But because it was mentioned on GD, you now have a chance to talk about it with other people.

BTW, this post comes off as a Gameplay rant in an M&G thread. I know you're serious about it when there's no reason to be. Especially since you are not obligated to click on our threads.

Xonra4 votes

"Miscellaneous was a dead subboard."

Yup. I only used it when I didn't have a place to put a game related topic/complaint (not sugar coating it shrugs). Even I didn't see the point of it really.

"Since GD also served the same function"

GD probably should serve the same function, but it looks to be mostly non-lol related, which seems to greatly defeat the purpose of it being on an LoL board (in my opinion), compared to Misc.

It isn't solely about non-lol interests, as much as it is on the front page, which means it pushes out actual LoL content for threads about ice cream and apples (both front page GD threads). I'm not speaking for everyone here, nor is that the point (though it seems I'm not speaking only for me either, but that wasn't the point either), but I come to the LoL boards for LoL content. I come here over Reddit cause that is about 90% "look at this 446564 IQ thresh hook" or something about Esports/esports drama.

I can no longer filter out stuff like memes and games, and now GD cause FEK doesn't do that with the new FEK (at least not currently). I have other areas that I can talk about non-LoL stuff, so maybe that is just me, so when I come here, it isn't to talk about ice cream flavors and anime, cause that...again, isn't why I come to an LoL website/forum.

It had nothing to do with an "obligation" to click on anything, I just logged in, curiously saw GD and started looking through threads. All of them were just trolly randomness and it was like "why? Why is this on the front page now? Zero of these threads have anything to do with League of Legends at all". then the more I looked people were intentionally being trolly, talking about trolling the front page with pointless threads, and after a few hours I made this thread with "Please just remove this".

I have no problem there being a GD, I just don't want it the first thing on the front page of the forum, cluttering up LoL content on the LoL board. Not everyone agrees with me, but I can't believe I'm the only person who feels that way. Also I have no problem with M&G as a whole, cause at least most of the memes are LoL related or based. That's the distinction there, cause people keep making that comment, when that isn't the point.

Busty Demoness3 votes

As Evangele told you, you're basically saying that it's a section of the forums that never deserves the front page simply for not having the requirement of LoL-related discussion.

Evangele also told you that it will sort itself out eventually. You haven't even given it a day to settle in and you're asking for it to be removed. You're not the voice for everyone here, regardless of how many people agree with you. If 99/100 people agree with something, does that mean the 1/100 that disagrees should be silent?

Majority or not, we deserve a shot at the front page.

Xonra3 votes

"you're basically saying that it's a section of the forums that never deserves the front page"

I guess to be fair, you're right, I am. And I've been on the forums a long time, including the OLD (good) GD, back when Morello used to frequent it and argued with people over old Soraka's healing being a negative experience, and this is the first time I've ever made this claim about a board. I have no problem with GD as a thing, but it just seems glaringly out of place on the front page rather suddenly, and given the other front page stuff IS LoL content, and the GD stuff is...ice cream and apples, one of these things is not like the other.

This will get downvoted like the rest of my comments from the GD community, but just being a board doesn't mean you "deserve" the front page. It was said flat out by one of the wardens that GD is a small community that was basically getting smaller, so that seemed to be the logic of slapping a board that was basically a clique, with completely different rules and moderation up to this point (again, a Warden flat out said as much, saying that trolls aren't removed from GD in the same way every other board does) in with the others.

Busty Demoness2 votes

{quoted}

"you're basically saying that it's a section of the forums that never deserves the front page"

I guess to be fair, you're right, I am.

This will get downvoted like the rest of my comments from the GD community, but just being a board doesn't mean you "deserve" the front page.

I'm sorry, but attempting to justify your bias REALLY doesn't help your argument.

Trolls/toxic people will never be fully removed from a community, common sense says this and even you should recognize that it's impossible except for extremely brief periods.

Yes, it's a different section of the community. But it's still a part of the whole. Would you exclude your sibling from a family event just because he is more hyper than most who will be there? Every community has its problematic members. That does not mean they deserve to have their voices muted.

Xonra2 votes

There is a difference between explaining and justifying.

There seems to be a LOT of projecting in here, as people go on about "being frustrated" when I'm not, "being angry" when I'm in a pretty good mood actually, "justifying my bias" when I'm neither biased, nor justifying anything. I don't need to justify my points and opinions because they are just that. Just because I go into detail to explain a point in hopes of making it clearer to get my point across, doesn't mean I'm "justifying" myself. While I would give a physical thumbs up at my monitor if you suddenly agreed with me, I'm not trying to change your opinion of my views.

Busty Demoness5 votes

Then how about I break it down for you.

"GD is an off-topic board, and because there are people who don't want to see off-topic stuff on the front page GD should be kept off of the front page."

That is bias. That is an opinion out of bias. Why is it a bias? Because you find a single trait unique to GD as a sub board as an excuse to keep it off the front page. And that trait, in this case, happens to invite the more troll actions of the community. You then list "troll activity" as your justification for keeping the off topic section off of the front page.

I'm sorry, but your wording was such that "troll activity" was supporting "GD doesn't deserve to be on the front page at all". And we've already established that your bias comes from not wanting to see off-topic stuff on the front page. Your stance is not universally shared by the community. We do not deserve to be removed from the front page simply for being "off topic". We should not be muted for a few trouble makers. You're letting a few rotten apples spoil the bunch and it shows in your replies to me. You didn't even wait a few days to let things settle down before making this thread.

You're still trying to mute the minority just so you don't have to look at it. I'm sorry, but the real world doesn't work like that and neither do these boards.

AHeroNamedHawke4 votes

You know what the worst part is? OP isn't directly quoting anything, which 99% means he's reading this thread in Discussion view. Just despicable.

Loafs of Pain4 votes

meh, deal with it

also, how can someone take you seriously if you are worried about upvotes and downvotes

Akali is SO HOT4 votes

I agree the front page should only have GD threads on it

ChickenWrap3 votes

But wait! Taking your opinion and putting it aside, you'll notice that we're not "downvote trolls", there is League discussion -- all the time, in-fact! -- and we're the embodiment of three boards put together under one moniker and a strong community. We're Gameplay, except not full of Bronze players who don't really understand gameplay, we're Memes and Games except our games are interactive and our memes are mostly GD in-jokes instead of 0/10 gifs trying to relate themselves to League or their life, and we're also Misc in that we have free reign to talk about almost whatever we want, because that's what our board is. General Discussion.

Hell, where else could you get a good music thread going? Nowhere, that's where.

Of course there will always be that boards rivalry thing going on I guess, but If you put aside your ridiculous judgements and prejudices for five seconds, you'd maybe notice that you're making a mountain out of a molehill, just like how I don't really hate Gameplay or M&G, I just don't really go there often because it doesn't appeal to me. I don't go to Gameplay because the people there are too busy complaining about one champion for five weeks while I want to discuss something different. When I try to do that, I get downvoted and told that my opinion is garbage by someone who has been playing for half a year, simply because I didn't want to talk about how OP Yasuo is at the moment. You know what board does indulge me in the other things I want to talk about regarding League?

General Discussion.

Xonra3 votes
  • I'm seeing plenty of "downvote trolling" in some of these GD threads (and I'm not counting myself).
  • Sure, there is random discussion about ice cream and such, but that's about it for the level of content I'm seeing. That's factual not an insult.
  • There isn't a SINGLE LoL related thread on the front page of the GD boards right now. I had to scroll a bit just to find a thread about Club member amount as the first one.
  • What does rank matter? Tired of rank shaming.
  • Sounds like you are saying mostly in that first paragraph "we are better, don't have low ranked people, and the rest of the boards are bad in comparison". Good selling point. Mkay.
  • I don't come here for "good music" threads.

As I said, I didn't come in with preconceptions and prejudices, I saw an odd amount of negativity IN GD threads from GDers (especially towards non-GDers and non-GD boards, like M&G and Gameplay), and the front page with just random pointless non-lol threads that aren't usually there, mostly just about trolling the front page and randomness (like the ice cream thread). I commented this to someone else, that you only get one first impression, and the first one made was pretty lack luster and negative. I don't feel I'm "out of line" here to not want that plastered on the front page of the boards.

ChickenWrap3 votes
  • There are a few problem members that are being handled right now. You're basing your entire experience with GD off of one single day of a boards merger.
  • Don't you talk smack about Cookies and Cream. I will fight you. Again, the very first day after a merger. You can't base your opinion off of content for a board that's only been open for 9 hours.
  • Too busy having fun for the first nine hours of their life. Again, you can't base your opinion off of the experience of nine hours of content. you're ignoring over 2+ years old the old boards GD.
  • Players play vastly differently in high ELO than they do in low ELO. Things that are a problem in low ELO are not a problem in high ELO and low ELO players will oftentimes not even consider things that high ELO players complain about to be a problem (like cast times, for example) because they don't understand how those factors work in the game. It's like taking a cashier and asking them to manage a store. They wouldn't know where to begin, they would become lost immediately, and they would focus on a lot of the wrong things. This is what low elo is to high elo. Given that you're Silver 5 and get upset when someone mentions low elo players not completely understanding the balance of the game, I can assume you fall under this category. Now, there are definitely players that know their stuff and are just stuck where they don't belong, but those players would be the lower-elo players talking about higher-elo problems. I should be able to go onto Gameplay and discuss a serious high elo problem and not be downvoted by low elo players, but I am because they don't understand the issue even when I lay it out in plain black-and-white. They think it's "bad content" and "doesn't contribute to the board" and therefore should be downvoted. Meanwhile, it's a legitimate thing that I'm trying to talk about with other players who understand what's going on, but that just doesn't happen. It's not rank-shaming. It's simply lower elo players not understanding the nuances of higher elo and therefore not wanting to talk about more complex topics of gameplay discussion
  • You clearly misread, and even so, you literally just said the same thing about every other board vs. GD, so please don't be a hypocrite.
  • You completely missed the point of the music thread thing. The only places you could realistically do one are on GD or Misc, and Misc was dead and GD takes an interest in a lot of different mediums, but just like the low-elo forumer you are, you are only looking at the biggest picture you can see and getting upset at something that's going to end up being more of a blessing than a curse in the long-run (did you like that analogy?).
CLG ear3 votes

OP has some good points though

this is a fight you cant win though. Wardens wanted this to happen they're not going to go back on it. Sorry but u gotta deal with it.

Xonra2 votes

Yeah, is why I am rolling my eyes at "this is what riot wanted" responses. When it is clear this is what some GD specific wardens wanted. I can promise you no one from Gameplay was clamoring for GD to be on the front page. I would say maybe M&G but GDers seem to take every chance to toss insults at them for some reason (even though GD seems to be the same board, minus the LoL content with the memes).

AHeroNamedHawke4 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, is why I am rolling my eyes at "this is what riot wanted" responses. When it is clear this is what some GD specific wardens wanted. I can promise you no one from Gameplay was clamoring for GD to be on the front page. I would say maybe M&G but GDers seem to take every chance to toss insults at them for some reason (even though GD seems to be the same board, minus the LoL content with the memes).

> Literally anywhere close to M&G degeneracy

At least our threads have words, beyond "WHEN X IS LIKE Y: [Barely relevant gif from The Office]"

ZenithEevee2 votes

Oh yeah..

also..

Be warned of the downvote bots...

i dont know who, but yeah..

They exist and tend to smite without regard.

Xonra2 votes

Oh I'm well aware. I am surprised I hadn't seen them running in already. As soon as I blacklisted two specific people, very conveniently I see spikes in upvotes/downvotes in certain comments. So I'm aware of the who, and the why.

It happens. Some people have fragile egos and can't handle a differing opinion.

Jorencice4 votes

"Some people have fragile egos and can't handle a differing opinion."

Says the person with a blacklist... lawl...

TheRiddum1 votes

If you really want to watch Gd'ers squirm....just post a picture of

https://www.tabasco.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/4322.jpg

Xonra2 votes

Not looking to make anyone squirm, just want people not to spam trolly stuff and insult non GDers or non GD boards, then be surprised when I make threads like this AFTER seeing it.

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