Sion's health stacking numbers are wrong

Jbels··1 votes·272 views

I just got out of a Sion game where my health stacks did not reflect my KDA or my Creep Score. Since I get at least 3 health per stack, that means my bonus health stacks should be at least 3 times my CS, even without KDA. I had 200 CS at one point, and with my KDA giving me a bonus 190, I was only hitting 540 bonus health. This is a huge problem for Sion, and I hope it gets fixed soon

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TryMucinex2 votes

Hello! I believe I found the cause of this bug. If you level up your W for the first time, in your passive form "Glory of Death", you will be unable to to receive the bonus health upon large minions and large monsters!

To prevent this bug, please avoid leveling up your Soul Furnace (W) ability while in your passive form, "Glory of Death"! ^.^

Jbels1 votes

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Hello! I believe I found the cause of this bug. If you level up your W for the first time, in your passive form "Glory of Death", you will be unable to to receive the bonus health upon large minions and large monsters!

To prevent this bug, please avoid leveling up your Soul Furnace (W) ability while in your passive form, "Glory of Death"! ^.^

Damn, now that I think about it, I definitely leveled up W during passive form. I got first blooded at our blue by the enemy team invading and I leveled it up during the death to gain the movement speed bonus. Thank you for showing me how to avoid it in the future

Jbels1 votes

Why is this being downvoted? This is a legitimate bug that needs to be fixed

TryMucinex1 votes

I only try to find reasons on why this may not be a bug, to eliminate any confusions, mistake, and make sure it's really a bug.


######I'm assuming you're referring to a game you had with Blitzcrank (and Vayne/Eve/Annie). There is only one thing I'm able to find how Sion's scores can give one a wrong idea about the bonus health =(.

Blitzcrank (Blitzcrank)'s item, or at least any items that contains the component of item 3097, can be used to give an ally coins, including a score count your CS (creep score). This score count will not contribute to your bonus health, as it probably does not count as YOUR kill or something (I'm not going to argue about any logic over this).

At 6 kills and 14 assists, you SHOULD receive 200 bonus health from this according to his ability's description. You typed that you were only getting 540 health. So... 540-200 health equals** 340 **health. You said you had around 200 CS at a certain point. Not considering large minions, it seems like you should get 600 bonus health. That's 260 excess health missing. In order to make up for this with the Targon's set of items that Blitzcrank has, he'd have to kill 86 minions (remember we estimated the other stuff, so it is not a true/exact situation and number).

So I have to ask, by any chance Blitzcrank(Blitzcrank) gave a significant amount of minions that may have you thought this as a bug?


The above scenario does not take into consideration that you may have made an estimation, mistake, lie, or imagination, about the things you have typed. In this game, I think it really would help if you have a recording of the whole game, or something. I think it would be too difficult to miss the cause of the situation you're experiencing.

Jbels1 votes

{quoted}

I only try to find reasons on why this may not be a bug, to eliminate any confusions, mistake, and make sure it's really a bug.


######I'm assuming you're referring to a game you had with Blitzcrank (and Vayne/Eve/Annie). There is only one thing I'm able to find how Sion's scores can give one a wrong idea about the bonus health =(.

Blitzcrank (Blitzcrank)'s item, or at least any items that contains the component of item 3097, can be used to give an ally coins, including a score count your CS (creep score). This score count will not contribute to your bonus health, as it probably does not count as YOUR kill or something (I'm not going to argue about any logic over this).

At 6 kills and 14 assists, you SHOULD receive 200 bonus health from this according to his ability's description. You typed that you were only getting 540 health. So... 540-200 health equals** 340 **health. You said you had around 200 CS at a certain point. Not considering large minions, it seems like you should get 600 bonus health. That's 260 excess health missing. In order to make up for this with the Targon's set of items that Blitzcrank has, he'd have to kill 86 minions (remember we estimated the other stuff, so it is not a true/exact situation and number).

So I have to ask, by any chance Blitzcrank(Blitzcrank) gave a significant amount of minions that may have you thought this as a bug?


The above scenario does not take into consideration that you may have made an estimation, mistake, lie, or imagination, about the things you have typed. In this game, I think it really would help if you have a recording of the whole game, or something. I think it would be too difficult to miss the cause of the situation you're experiencing.

I don't think Blitz gave me that many minion stacks, but at the end of it, if I have 200 CS, and I'm gaining 200 health from just KDA, I should have almost around 800 health.

TryMucinex1 votes

Yes, I acknowledge how much health you should be receiving already. Since your answer was basically a "no" to my question, that leaves two thing.

The things you stated are wrong.

Or it's a bug. I have no idea what Riot do with these bug posts. If they can try to test every post using as many possible method they can, they may or may not find out and fix it. If they don't do anything with it since posts that does not give much, if any, clues (like this post), it may help so much if you post a recording of your whole game. You can either track it yourself, or let someone else find the problem.

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