Zed Electrocute bug

Malak·Jul 19, 2018·2 votes·901 views

Zed's Q procs multiple times for electrocute even though electrocute says UNIQUE spells.

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Reaper SorakaJul 20, 20182 votes

Hmmmmmmmm.

Zed having to hit you with 3 things for electrocute... I like it. Zed mains don't, but I do.

ZedUsanGovosJul 20, 20181 votes

Zed's Shadow Q counts as a separate Q coming from another entity. Ahri's Q, although it can hit twice, is still sent out from a single entity, whereas Zed's shadow is a completely different entity.

MalakJul 20, 20181 votes

Nah that’s a bug. It’s the same ability being cast. If it was “another entity” then that other entity doesn’t have electrocute. Only zed does

ZedUsanGovosJul 21, 20181 votes

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Nah that’s a bug. It’s the same ability being cast. If it was “another entity” then that other entity doesn’t have electrocute. Only zed does

It's not a bug.

The entity is not a completely separate champion. It's still part of Zed, like Leblanc or Shaco's clones are their own entities.

Zed's Q is one source of damage.

Zed's W doesn't do anything by itself for damage. However, pressing Q while Living Shadow is active causes the Shadow to throw a Shadow Shuriken, becoming another source of damage.

They're two separate sources of damage, because you can still miss one while hitting the other, and it won't proc Elec. It's one ability, but two sources of damage. With an E added in before the Qs, you get the one E stack, then the two Q stacks, proccing Elec.

Ahri, Ekko, and Gnar's Qs are one single source of damage from one ability, hence why a Q+E doesn't proc Electrocute the same way that Zed's W+E+Q does.

I believe it's the same case for Zed's E and Living Shadow's E.

If you were to W+E, while hitting both Es on a target, and then follow up with a Q (but only hit one of them), it'll still proc Electrocute due to being three sources of damage (Zed's E (and/or Q) and Shadow's E (and/or Q)). But I'm not so sure on that one.

MalakJul 21, 20181 votes

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It's not a bug.

The entity is not a completely separate champion. It's still part of Zed, like Leblanc or Shaco's clones are their own entities.

Zed's Q is one source of damage.

Zed's W doesn't do anything by itself for damage. However, pressing Q while Living Shadow is active causes the Shadow to throw a Shadow Shuriken, becoming another source of damage.

They're two separate sources of damage, because you can still miss one while hitting the other, and it won't proc Elec. It's one ability, but two sources of damage. With an E added in before the Qs, you get the one E stack, then the two Q stacks, proccing Elec.

Ahri, Ekko, and Gnar's Qs are one single source of damage from one ability, hence why a Q+E doesn't proc Electrocute the same way that Zed's W+E+Q does.

I believe it's the same case for Zed's E and Living Shadow's E.

If you were to W+E, while hitting both Es on a target, and then follow up with a Q (but only hit one of them), it'll still proc Electrocute due to being three sources of damage (Zed's E (and/or Q) and Shadow's E (and/or Q)). But I'm not so sure on that one.

I know zed mains don't like it, but you are getting 1-3 electrocute procs off 1 ability based on the number of shadows.

By comparison, Syndra's orbs don't each generate a stack even though they were placed on the field by other abilities.