perfect kda, best farm in team, S. wtf? (riot wont be able to explain this)

Arammus·Jul 11, 2018·1 votes·881 views

this is 100% a bug. my friend could not have performed any better she is support, has the best kda (a perfect one btw 0 deaths) has the most farm in her garbage team did as much dmg to enemys as jayce nidalee. 2nd best vision score in her team, the 2 towers her team took was one 80% taken by her. this is not a S performance this is a S+++ performance.

THIS IS A BUG and NOONE from riot can explain to me how this isnt a S+

how is this an S. how? there is NO way. noone on earth can explain to me how this is an S. i challenge you riotgames. explain to me how this is not S+. how? i have never seen such bullshit.

7 Comments

DrCyanideJul 11, 20181 votes

item 3340 only used 9 times in 40 minutes.

Whisper87Jul 11, 20181 votes

The formulas for this stuff are weird, and there are a lot of complaints going around that the grading system values CS too much (although as a veteran player who still maintains the mantra of "100 cs at 12 minutes even in solo q" I would disagree).

My guess is either 1) she traded for support and it wasn't her selected role so they overvalued cs (in this length of a game she'd be wanting over 200 to get into the S+ tier or 2) She got support and in that role it's important to have a high percentage of your KP be in assists rather than kills.

If it is a matter of cs (which is what I'm guessing it is), no amount of kda can overcome this. Under the current system if I'm not mistaken you could go 100-0-50 and you wouldn' get a S+ if your farm was sub par. Kinda weird but that's how it is.

Professor WardJul 11, 20181 votes

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The formulas for this stuff are weird, and there are a lot of complaints going around that the grading system values CS too much (although as a veteran player who still maintains the mantra of "100 cs at 12 minutes even in solo q" I would disagree).

My guess is either 1) she traded for support and it wasn't her selected role so they overvalued cs (in this length of a game she'd be wanting over 200 to get into the S+ tier or 2) She got support and in that role it's important to have a high percentage of your KP be in assists rather than kills.

If it is a matter of cs (which is what I'm guessing it is), not amount of kda can overcome this. Under the current system if I'm not mistaken you could go 100-0-50 and you wouldn' get a S+ if your farm was sub par. Kinda weird but that's how it is.

The system 100% scales for position so you may be correct there (support main who gets s+ way too easily on some champs). I would say kills for the support role are actually also valued well. The problem here is fully in the support role trigger. Im not sure if its role placement or lack of support item but its always farm in these situations.

Also note that gradings are scaled to average performance and to champions specifically AT A ROLE.

Now For examples: Being 10/2/10, 200 cs, 25 wards at 20 minutes will score different letter grades for Swain, veigar, and nami. AND a 10/2/10 swain will score different letter grades at each position on the map.

This furthers the thought that the system mistook trundle for a top laner or jungler as thats where he usually goes.

Tldr: Champion role, then champions average performance at that role, cs, kda in that order.

This makes it extremely simple to s+ random champions at the support role btw as they usually sport terrible average scores there.

ButterwoodJul 11, 20181 votes

Not enough wards, least damage dealt to champions on the team, least damage tanked, and her team lost. Probably played a bit too conservative and didn't help enough with objectives.

El Condor PasaJul 11, 20181 votes

0 deaths doesn't excuse low damage and low farm in a 40 minute game. If you want an S+, take what you think S+ gameplay should be and do even better than that.

ArammusJul 11, 20181 votes

she played support. ignoring the fact that she is a relic support, usually supports "should" end with 0 cs.

El Condor PasaJul 11, 20181 votes

Nobody on that team has exceptional farm to match a 40 minute game. Just because she is playing support doesn't mean she shouldn't farm even when nobody else is farming. Especially with a build like that; titanic hydra with 4k hp, blade of the ruined king, and trundle's W should be clearing waves quick.