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[Gameplay] Shaco - You come out of Stealth Immediately After Using Deceieve

Pink Ward··94 votes·5,954 views

WARNING VIDEO IS LOUD DUE TO RAGING, sorry for the salt. The first 2 clips are from the live server. The 3rd clip is from PBE so it is still implemented after the rework to Shaco.

You will come out of stealth if you give your champion a command and then deceive as Shaco.

  1. Pick Shaco
  2. Command your champion to attack an enemy
  3. Use the Q ability (Deceive) into auto range of the champion
  4. Cancelling Stealth immediately due to the auto command input put in recently that was cancelled do to movement.

If the champion is in your auto range after Qing, you will always come out of stealth.

Some thoughts of my own. I think this is the same reason we can Q>B. After Qing your input commands previously aren't stopped, so in the time between actually going invs and autoing, your input doesn't get cancelled even.

My bad on miss spelling in the title. Oops. :^)

46 Comments

invisiblecat118 votes

Never happened to me, but I have seen it happen to other shacos before No matter how much I hate a champion I think all champions should function as they are supposed to

Also that 3rd Yasuo Q hitbox tho...

Enloct

Holy shit I didn't realize how badly Yas missed his Q. That was like 70 degrees off and he was like 250-300 range away.

Long n Hard1 votes

That third Yasuo Q was a direct hit. Maybe look at it again. he didn't shoot it straight at 0 degree angle, he shot it at like 30 degree angle.

Velzard of Koz2 votes

It wasn't direct hit. It wasn't direct miss either, he didn't miss it that hard but it did just merely scratch around Shaco. In other words, If you watch it at slower pace, the animation didn't hit Shaco, just corner of the hitbox.

Long n Hard1 votes

That third Yasuo Q was a direct hit. Maybe look at it again. He shot it at an angle + weird camera position of game made it look weird.

DeathTheHorseman1 votes

When I read the title I legit tought it's a Shaco main who is talking about PBE nerfs... (dat 1.5 sec Invisibility)

My toughts are with you shaco players... I hate you, God I hate you from the bottom of my heart but no one deserves what Riot is doing to you and us Akali mains...

IveBeenHacked1 votes

4.5 seconds at max rank, which is longer than it is in live.

Imaginary Hero5 votes

I never laughed so hard

NiceTryVi5 votes

Its not a bug, if you issue an attack, which he did, you come out of stealth. It doesn't matter if you auto cancel, you still issued an attack.

HollowMimic6 votes

I've also seen other people saying that it's supposed to work like that but even if Riot agrees, it doesn't make any sense to me.

You issued an attack but then you issued your Q. Shouldn't the second command cancel the first? Like when you do it with your E. You issue an attack but when you issue to throw your Shiv, he throws it; he doesn't wait for the attack to complete and then throw it. In your Q you also have the teleport that can serve as a cancel; you click where you want to go, hence it should cancel the attack (it's not that he goes only into stealth at the same point and then he fulfills the attack, thus cancelling stealth).

Am I missing anything?

NiceTryVi1 votes

The point is that the stealth is conditional on you not attacking anyone. If you give the command, you have attempted an attack, whether you go through with it or not.

Shinixy1 votes

In this case you give the command BEFORE you use stealth so the stealth cancel makes absolutly no sense.

TahmYorViJanna3 votes

This actually has happend to me alot, and I've watched over recordings of them everytime, its such a common bug with Shaco that needs to be fixed, hopefully it will be with the remake :) if not, rito plz?

Poske3 votes

Happends to me all the time

If you command a shaco to attack right after Q and you cancel it in like 90% of animation it happends

Legionaire2 votes

I completely agree, ive have had this happen to me since i started in season 4. It can indeed be very frustrating and even throw the game.

KLS Shaconly 2 votes

Yeah... it's happened to me a lot, it's especially tilting in the lategame. Fixing bugs should be higher up Riot's priority list, it has to do with the quality of the game. There's also other champions riddled with bugs and I think they also deserve a bit of touching up.

The Soulforged2 votes

I've been removed from stealth before I've actually damaged a champion and that was pretty stupid.

mustafa28812 votes

Poor pink ward

i never saw you this loud before...

######No offense, no hate mods right?

Kazumen1 votes

Rito spaghetti code, why ; (

Demonicous1 votes

I dont even want to hear it Riot has their shit together in that departament and at least they disable super broken champs. Go play HoN and there you will see some WTF bugs.

statelesskiller1 votes

this is the kinda bug that needs a INSTANT look at and hotfix ASAP. this is the kinda bug that loses you games.

its just like that yasuo bug that literally gave him free extra damage this may seem small to some people but this is ACTUALLY game breaking

KoKoboto1 votes

Holy shit... thanks for the volume warning lol

Was this all PBE gameplay?

Pink Ward1 votes

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Holy shit... thanks for the volume warning lol

Was this all PBE gameplay?

The first 2 clips were Live server. Last one was from PBE.

KoKoboto1 votes

I recommend sending a support ticket to Riot along if this post doesn't get enough views

Andrionar1 votes

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The first 2 clips were Live server. Last one was from PBE.

you should post it on reddit

Scrimshäw1 votes

lmao why use a webcam

Zenfro26 votes

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lmao why use a webcam

he is a regular streamer, and he uses webcam for stream, this gameplay occured during stream.

Weathered5 votes

He is a master tier Shaco streamer and known as the god of AP Shaco.

Scrimshäw1 votes

and very reminiscent of your fek avatar

U Got Urgot1 votes

I tried to become an AP shaco one trick pony for a while and I can confirm that this bug exists and it contributed to me moving on to other champs.

MirrorWised1 votes

As I mentioned in that video myself I believe the cause of these 'bugs' is the auto attack option that you are given from the 'GAME' section if u press escape and enter the options menu during a game , you ll notice that he DID NOT click any of the champions if you lower the speed of the video at 0.25 , he was only really close to them at both scenarios , I believe that is the cause of the problem and furthermore what that tells us is that if shaco is close to an enemy champion while that option is on this should occur everytime this happens , thus when shaco tries to auto attack even if you try to cancel it , he wll be removed from stealh because he tried to auto attack. A good fix should be to make it like akali's stealth , while akali is in her W she cannot perform an auto attack unless ordered even with that option on.I believe I pretty much covered everything with this explaination.

Pink Ward2 votes

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As I mentioned in that video myself I believe the cause of these 'bugs' is the auto attack option that you are given from the 'GAME' section if u press escape and enter the options menu during a game , you ll notice that he DID NOT click any of the champions if you lower the speed of the video at 0.25 , he was only really close to them at both scenarios , I believe that is the cause of the problem and furthermore what that tells us is that if shaco is close to an enemy champion while that option is on this should occur everytime this happens , thus when shaco tries to auto attack even if you try to cancel it , he wll be removed from stealh because he tried to auto attack. A good fix should be to make it like akali's stealth , while akali is in her W she cannot perform an auto attack unless ordered even with that option on.I believe I pretty much covered everything with this explaination.

I don't have auto attack on. The conclusion I came to is that it's the auto input I have put in before Qing in. I cancel it by moving, but the input still goes through when I Q into melee range of the Yasuo.

Sceenshot of attack option. https://gyazo.com/f4466fe86b12beaa8e337f68a205c5e7

MirrorWised1 votes

You're probably right about that , then riot should change it and make it like akali's W stealth that will probably fix the issue at hand.

Bardful1 votes

Has happened to me more as of late. Glad I know why now.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

so the moment he activates it he comes out of stealth? no ty, I like having a few seconds of invis cause it allows for ganks in case they have wards

mikemcparty1 votes

Only if he has put in a command to AA and has stealthed into range to AA the target. I believe this is as intended.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

ooh, yeah, when u aa in steal it will reveal you but I have AA on and as shaco this never happens to me, probably cause i'm either running away or going in to aa e smite and burst them

Dehitay1 votes

wtf, was it ever programmed to ignore previous commands once you hit Q? I thought that was obvious behavior. At the end of the day, it's a blink ability. And to my knowledge, every blink ability doesn't cancel previous commands. It would be annoying as hell if they did. I'm more curious why you ordered an attack command before stealthing if you didn't want to attack? That makes as much logic as ordering an attack command on Ezreal before E'ing if you don't want to attack. It just makes sense that the same thing results.

Automated Riven1 votes

Have you never played league?

Weathered1 votes

This has happened a few times to me. Really messes you up and makes you stutter with what you're doing.

ArnoldSchwarzens1 votes

If you cancel the auto command by right clicking on the ground before you deceive, does it still interrupt it?

Filthy Rank1 votes

yes this piss me off so much it even hapens when i use auto on click ==', it's like making the Q purpose of escape useless

TwinDenis1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pink Ward,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=EjhEqihb,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-05T22:57:17.985+0000)

WARNING VIDEO IS LOUD DUE TO RAGING, sorry for the salt. The first 2 clips are from the live server. The 3rd clip is from PBE so it is still implemented after the rework to Shaco.

You will come out of stealth if you give your champion a command and then deceive as Shaco.

  1. Pick Shaco
  2. Command your champion to attack an enemy
  3. Use the Q ability (Deceive) into auto range of the champion
  4. Cancelling Stealth immediately due to the auto command input put in recently that was cancelled do to movement.

If the champion is in your auto range after Qing, you will always come out of stealth.

Some thoughts of my own. I think this is the same reason we can Q>B. After Qing your input commands previously aren't stopped, so in the time between actually going invs and autoing, your input doesn't get cancelled even.

My bad on miss spelling in the title. Oops. :^)

Tested and Confirmed.

OhZenny1 votes

Tbh that only happened because you have auto attack on not much of a bug, you right clicked him right when you q'd, it's super unlucky

Lord Kry1 votes

I actually like that this is the case, when I play vayne the auto command will stay even though i tumble and go into stealth, so I never have to worry about the auto cancel that used to be there.

Filthy Rank1 votes

It happens in at least half of my games with shaco :') I have to always be very carefull to not Q on a mob (like gromp behind the wall), on someone in a bush (how do you predict this ??), on a minion in lane or a champion i wanna q over to outplay :o The worst is that the auto is cancelled so you do no damage but stealth goes off ^^'

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