Darius and Deathfire Touch keystone ??

SiG DxD·11/20/2015, 2:10:35 AM·1 votes·8,800 views

shouldnt it proc on bleed ?? since its a damaging ability like it works on brand and teemo ?

thats why brand is considered so strong along many constant dps dots ,because mastery

yet if it works on conflagrate passive it should work on hemorhage passive

I AM 100% it doesnt proc off bleeds ,and should be very good since bleed is single target ,but doesnt proc at all and it only procs from things like basic attack and crippling strike W

thanks

8 Comments

LegendaryLemur11/20/2015, 2:40:01 AM2 votes

I've got a working theory here that if an ability (like brands's blaze) is applied by ability damage only then it will apply spell effects, whereas if it (like darius's hemmorhage) is applied by both ability damage and basic attacks, then it will not apply spell effects.

Again, this is a working theory, i'll keep checking it as more abilities come to mind, but it's checked out on the wiki with everything i've thought of so far.

EDIT: other abilities i've checked (note: i'm checking this on the wikia, not in-game so may not be correct) Lux's Illumination applies only on abilites and applies spell effects (checks out) Braum's Concussive Blows applies on both abilities and basic attacks, does not apply spell effects (checks out) Leona's Sunilight abilites only, applies spell effects (checks out) Vel'Koz's Organic Deconstruction applies on abilities only (although basic attacks refresh the duration of already-applied stacks), applies spell effects (checks out) Ekko's Z-Drive Resonance applies on abilities and basic attacks, but applies spell effects (EXCEPTION - the way the wikia reads though, it sounds like the spell effects are produced on consuming the mark, not on application (Lux's Illumination by contrast reads like the spell effects are produced on applying the mark, which makes sense. One would assume that consuming illumination with a basic attack would NOT apply spell effects, but i could be wrong) so maybe not an exception after all? Needs more testing!)

Flaherty11/20/2015, 2:21:54 AM1 votes

Well his bleed doesn't apply spell effects (the wiki says that) so it shouldn't proc the mastery since it doesn't proc other spell related things.

EndlessSorcerer11/20/2015, 2:43:20 AM1 votes

Does an ability apply on-spell effects such as Rylai's Crystal Scepter's slow, Liandry's Torment's burn, or Spellvamp?

If yes, it applies Deathfire Touch.

If no, it does not.

It's quite simple.

BraveryBeyond11/20/2015, 3:27:46 AM1 votes

Easy answer: not all of Darius' abilities are spells, thus his passive would not proc on-spell effects because not all abilities that proc his passive are spells.