Now I'm Worried about Playing as Vi/Jg

Howldoom·4/9/2015, 4:03:19 AM·2 votes·3,549 views

First I was winning all the time, now I'm losing all the time.

Last game with Vi: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1789340478/203289894

I think the problem is that I either put on too much pressure and go way too ham, trying to solo carry the game, or I don't put out enough pressure when the lanes are losing.

Refer to LoLKing profile as well.

14 Comments

Hocker4/9/2015, 5:01:49 AM2 votes

It sounds like your issue is more mental than anything. If you NEED to "solo carry a game" for your ego...do it by cultivating teamwork. You can then say "I carried" because YOU got your team to work together. (but in the end...people always argue about who "carried"...so it's just a good idea to forget the concept and embrace the fact that you either win as a team and you lose as a team)

RiotRiot 10YearSanta4/9/2015, 6:20:57 AM2 votes

I'm kind of similar, for some reason I just go too deep too often when I play Vi.

ZergReap4/9/2015, 4:20:08 AM1 votes

Well looks like all lanes lost for the match you posted. Unless you fail ganked and put your team behind it was probably just a hard game losing from the start. As for Vi she is strong right now I actually prefer her banned because I main adc. Try Cinderhulk and a tankier build getting tri force if snowballing and you have to solo carry the game. Tanker build will allow you to go way ham in a team fight and you will still do decent damage, but not get blown up when you ult in.

Jingerbeardman4/9/2015, 6:30:54 PM1 votes

Jungle is by far one of the most difficult roles to take on because of one major factor, your ability to properly read a situation. I used to main jungle for the longest time (changed to more of a top lane main since last season but still consider myself a jungler at heart) and know that back when I jungled more often I suffered from this very problem. I had a terrible time reading the flow of the game and when the best times to engage were. Vi was one of my mains, I still consider her my main ad jungler, so I know some of what you are going through. Vi can be a tricky mistress when it comes to engaging in ganks and team fights because of how easy it can be with her ult. The big key to improving is to really know when to use it.

Some tips I have learned when it comes to her ult:

  1. Try to never use your ult at max range when it comes to engaging on a gank, skirmish, or teamfight. The only times to use your ult at max range is to finish someone off who is running away with extremely low health you are absolutely sure you can kill, When your teammates have already engaged on a fight and you can make a surprise entrance to turn the tables, or if an IMPORTANT target is caught major out of position and away from any teammates to help them and your team can handle themselves without you (huge emphasis on important).
  • Times to never ult at max range (especially in ganks) when your preferred target is behind any teammates that can disrupt you, when your teammates are next to you at the max range... they will never catch up to you in time to make the right play, or when you are with your team and that squishy target pops out of the fog of war except you dont have proper vision around them or on the rest of their team cause it is probably a bait.
  1. Know who you are going to ult in team fights and exactly what they can do as well as anyone next to your target. Just because an ADC or fed mid laner shows their face in a fight doesnt mean you should jump on the immediately, typically they are anticipating you will and plan accordingly, Wait till they burn some cooldowns first because that will make them easier targets.

  2. always make sure your teammates are in correct positions before you go in. If you decide now is the right moment to strike and your carries are sitting in front of the rest of your team... it wasnt the right moment. This one can be one of the most difficult to read because it varies so much from match to match, it is important to remember what champs your other teammates are playing and exactly what they are capable of otherwise you might land yourself in a sticky situation with your mates to far away to help or in the worst possible formation.

The only other tips i can really give are things you want to keep in mind as you play. Such as knowing what are the right items to build at what time in a match. What are the best lanes to pressure or help compared to others. what the right times to make your presence known/gank are. Whether or not a lane actually needs a gank or if it only needs the pressure of your presence being nearby (this ones a biggie, just because you go to a teammates lane does not mean you should try to go for a kill, sometimes all they might need is that little bit of pressure in order for their skills to come off cooldown or to regen some health). These are things you typically learn on your own as you get more experience. Just try to keep them in mind as you play so that whenever you do something right or something wrong you can reflect on whatever lead to that outcome and learn from it so you can improve.

One of the last and biggest hints I can give you that you should always keep in mind no matter what role or champ you are playing is. Which is NEVER be overconfident in yourself, be confident in your abilities but NEVER think you are better than someone else. The instant you take on that mindset is when you will start to go ham in the worst possible ways. Always try to stay on the side of caution, especially in ranked. In normals its alright to get a little cocky and enjoy yourself by making silly plays from time to time but it is never alright in ranked. Even if you think you might be a better player than someone on the other team, always expect that they have something hidden up their sleeve or some trick they haven't used yet.

Oh yeah I almost forgot one other important thing. NEVER blame others even if it seems like it was their fault for whatever happened. The truth is there were probably things you could have done differently to prevent whatever you feel like blaming someone else for. No one is ever 100% at fault unless they are actually trying to make your team lose.

Hopefully this helps in some small way for you. whether it does or not though, I wish you good luck on the fields of battle.

edit: after reading one of your replys again I felt i needed to add one last little footnote. Do not get to focused on yourself, you are better off thinking about what you can do to get your team ahead and not how you alone can get ahead. Having a good score in the end isn't much good if you still lose. After everything is said and done it is the TEAM that wins the game and not you as an individual. Always try to do what is best for the team and not what is best for yourself.

Bemapon4/9/2015, 10:10:17 PM1 votes

Dont try to solo carry, try to help your team carry themselves or put the other team behind enough for your team to just win. Focus on getting your team through the early game and then when the laning faze is over be enough of a threat to draw attention away from your other carries (Mid laner and adc).

my build: item 3707 or item 3714 item 3047 or item 3111 item 3078 (Some people recommend item 3153 instead) item 3143 item 3102 then either more tank or more dmg depending on the game

This way you are generally tanky while still doing dmg.

tl;dr Apply pressure early game. Then in team fights initiate, take out a high priority target, peel for the other carries or all of the above.

ClutchCrux4/9/2015, 11:03:15 PM1 votes

item 3111 item 3725 item 3143 item 3102 item 3071 item 3153 item 3143 & item 3071 getting buffed for people like vi.

build any said items in any order you want but blade last or 2nd to last