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Elise to play or not to play

Dayfire··2 votes·1,149 views

So recently one of my friends told me that i should pick up jungleing with Elise . but i don't know how good she is. can you guys give me some information on her and possibly some tips.

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Serevas4 votes

Elise is a champion that's just decent at everything. The reason people like to take her is that she can do a good full first clear and still have hp to gank afterwards. You can build her from Glass cannon into full tank, I personally like a sort of bruiser build.

More or less the most powerful stat on her is Magic Penetration. She has two % hp damage abilities that scale by additional percentages based on her AP. My builds will often contain items such as item 3151 item 3001 item 3020 item 3135 because they're the most effective offensive items for a solo queue environment. item 3116 is supposed to be a pretty good item due to the amount of HP it provides, while still having solid AP and the passive effect synergizes well with Liandry's.

I imagine the reason they suggested Elise is that she's good at everything. Solid clear, strong ganks if you hit cocoon, decent damage, solid counter jungling, not too hard on mana, she also makes a decent split pusher because with her spiderlings and skittering frenzy she can tear down towers in seconds.

As far as tips with her, you can jump over the dragon and baron pit using Rappel. You can utilize your spiderlings to tank jungle camps, just be careful to swap the aggro so as to not let them die too quickly. When ganking think of your cocoon in the same way that you would a Lee Sin Q, if you miss the cocoon, it's usually best to not try and continue with the gank. Don't forget that your spider form abilities don't have mana costs so you should utilize them as much as possible for clearing. With proper amounts of Magic Penetration built in, you can typically out duel anyone. Finally I'd only suggest playing her into games where you have a super scaling laner of some sort. Hyper Carry or like a Katarina or something really strong, preferably AD based so your damage is still largely relevant on the way.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Elise typically works best with a tanky magic penetration build. I typically run the following setup with her:

  • Runes: Hybrid Pen Quints and Mark, Flat Armor Seals, Scaling MR Glyphs
  • Masteries: 21/9/0
  • Skill Order: WQEQQR, R>Q>W>E

You want to build Sorcerer Shoes and Haunting Guise early game, followed by the Juggernaut enchantment. After this, I would recommend building defensive items (Randuin's Omen, Locket of the Iron Solari, and Frozen Heart are good choices). Late game, you can build a Void Staff and sell Haunting Guise for another defensive item.

If you need more damage, you can build some AP defensive items (item 3116 item 3151 item 3157 item 3001 etc), but I prefer the defenses.

When ganking with Red Buff or Chilling Smite, make sure you slow your enemy before using your Cocoon to make it easier to land. Even if the enemy laner sees you coming for a gank, you can usually hit them with a Q and W before you leave to help your ally.

Zirzon1 votes

She has pretty poor AP scaling, so a lot of people just build her tank and rely on her base damages. Don't expect to have a lot of impact apart from your stuns late game though, no matter how you build.

In fact, if anyone knows a way to make Elise last better into late, I'd appreciate you sharing your builds.

mvargus2 votes

I was hoping one of the other posters would have information as I struggle using her.

I guess I can add my thoughts. I'll note that I like her, but I find her very situational and team dependant.

Elise is a mage/assassin. She's got some good abilities and can handle the jungle fairly well, but she's not dominant.

Where she struggles will be in teamfights and really any non 1v1 situation.

She's got 2 good spells in human form. Q - does damage based on % health. The healthier the target the more damage it does E - Cocoon, its a skill shot stun.

Her W in human form isn't all that powerful or useful without lots of items.

In spider form. Q - does damaged based on % health missing. Its' basically an "execute" attack W - Causes her and her spiderlings to go into a frenzy boosting their attack speed, she heals a very small amount with each attack

Her E is the wall jump. You have to target an enemy or neutral monster. Or you can use it to effectively Zyonya's (targeting yourself), but you will reappear at your starting spot in 2.5 seconds. (and probably die unless its a team fight.)

R just switches between forms, although it does have a passive boost built in.


She's good 1v1 and can be an excellent assassin with her ability to jump walls to surprise a support or ADC, but otherwise she's just not that powerful. The "tank" junglers like Amumu have better sustain, and she can't compete with the sustain of others. She relies on a skill shot for her only CC, and doesn't scale as well as many others. In teamfights she's hoping to get past any bruisers/tanks as hard CC will turn her into an extremely squishy target for them.

But in the right team, if you've practiced her enough, she's going to be very effective.

Mahautsukai1 votes

Since others covered tips ill just vote, YES.

Elise is the best champion ever, ever.*

(*individual mileage may vary)

BattleOoze1 votes

Elise isn't that strong atm. Try Wukong, J4, Fiddle and etc. Those will win you games.

nobodyDX1 votes

if you are going to junge make sure you have smite and item 1039

fluffymc1 votes

Ill tell you something. Just wait for the free rotation. You shouldn't rush yourself. You'll end up with all champs eventually and if you don't have some of them than wait a week. You might get lucky. Plus don't listen to your friend as much as you should listen to yourself. Start watching yourself to see your own play stile. Ask yourself If you could be any champ who would you be. Than play that champ as you would if you were them.

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