how do i carry?

auganator·Mar 4, 2015·1 votes·1,052 views

Let me start this off by saying this isnt a " i deserve to be gold but stuck in bronze because of noobs" type rant, i understand that im stuck in bronze because i need to learn how to carry these kids, but i honestly cant figure it out. Mechanically and strategy wise i would say im probably on par with your average gold 4-3 player. i always apply huge amount of pressure early game and take objectives at every opportunity i have and for the most part whenever i have decent laners and we are winning after the first 10 minutes i win 95% of the time due to having a pretty good idea on how to snowball an advantage ie: nonstop ganking, taking drags, and counter jungling to starve the enemy of gold. but i have no idea in hell what to do when my lanes feed. once again i dont mean this in a cocky way, i know its my fault for losing because i dont know how to make a comeback. For instance i lost a game tonight, here is the situation, 10 minutes in i am about 3-1-2 lanes are doing decent. i gank mid kill the enemy leblanc and meanwhile our botlane gives up the double kill, our sup annie starts raging and saying im a bronze noob for never ganking despite literally ganking 3 minutes ago. anyway so they dont rage anymore i just go to gank bot, i cant get a kill but force them to back, while this is happening top gives up a kill. what do i do in situation like these were everytime i gank the other 2 lanes get killed or forced out of lane? because i dont know what do and i always get blamed for not ganking despite ganking literally ever 30 seconds. its been 65 games and ive only gone from bronze 2 to 1 and its really depressing because i play good every game, but like a said i dont know how to carry and i know its why im stuck. and it seems to go in sprees i went from bronze 2 to almost silver promos in 2 days winning about 80% of my games, but then ill get 5 games in a row were all my lanes lose and im back to bronze 2 :( (my mmr is low i think because i always get demoted at first 0lp loss). anyway im just looking for advise from high elo players on how to carry, im a good player and i feel like i can get to gold but its really a confidence shrinker when you have 33-33 w/l ratio despite playing good everygame. and once again lol im not blaming this on noobs or troll, i know its my fault for not knowing how to carry.

7 Comments

UZuDGuot1AMar 4, 20151 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1749595183/208893310?tab=overview looking at your match history and I'm not hating on you since it was a loss and league is a tough game, you didn't take any objectives, and your pick of garen is a bit off meta. Yes garen is very strong in lane but sadly he doesn't carry, if you picked a harder carry such as irelia and jax you would have a much better time taking objectives, being the tank bronze doesn't even know how to handle and can do tons of damage to the most fed person on their team. Start learning some positioning too, as a toplaner when dragon is up you or spawning soon find a way to place yourself in mid or bot without tp, with tp have your support ward it for you so you can teleport while applying toplane pressure, and securing dragon if a fight breaks out. Those are just a few tips for you!

auganatorMar 4, 20151 votes

oh yeah, those 2 garen games as top. i am not a top main at all lol garens the only champ i am comfortable playing in top lane do to being really safe in lane, i was mostly talking about as jungler because thats my main and i can normally get it in about 80% of my games. I appreciate the advise though i will try to play more aggresive next time i get stuck with top lane. i won lanes both time i played garen but yeah i need to learn someone who can snowball harder and have more lategame impact. For instance would the play go something along the lines of after forcing the riven back in my second game i should of told my teammates to try to make a kill happen bot or mid lane, and then after riven shows up in top tp into dragon pit for a 5 man drag when only 3 enemy were available to contest.

UZuDGuot1AMar 4, 20151 votes

Well that's a good basics of what could happen, minus the TP. Make a kill happen bot drag is free can't contest unless you're low. As far as pushing riven back make her base, if riven doesn't have TP she can't make it to dragon and watch your map closely. If a fight breaks out TP in as soon as possible preferably behind the team fight but you can go in the front if your team is losing and getting engaged on. Both are good options and communicate with your support as far as dragon wards go. Jungler advice for the new season is pretty simple, DRAGON DRAGON DRAGON!!! It all comes down to the majestic 5 stack dragon, if the game is in for the long haul securing that first dragon and possibly snowballing your team where the point that you're on top of all the dragons is good. Deny dragon buffs they are at a big disadvantage. One important tip for being in the jungle is always be doing something, you don't want to sit in a bush longer than 5-10 seconds, if no gank opportunity then you are wasting your time.

auganatorMar 5, 20151 votes

yeah im actually pretty good at tryndamere so ill have to try him out next time im top, with jungling what do i do when theres no real opportunity to dragon like say bot lane is just getting demolished. sometimes even if i get our adc first blood and gank alot they just simply arent good at adc and get demolished anyway. I have gotten an adc 2 kills in 5 minutes before and she still ended up dying 2 times in a row to the enemy adc a few minutes later, and from there the bot lane dominance just makes it really hard to get a good dragon opportunity and camping isnt really an option because alot of the time the enemy adc isnt even having to over extend to get the kills its just our adc playing to aggressive and turret diving. those are the situations i really have problems with because im getting them kills but they dont know what to do with it, they seem to think all because they have a 2-3 kill advantage they are invincible and turret dive a max health karthus or something lol. srry for all the quistions i just really want to become a better player and its hard to self teach yourself this game.

UZuDGuot1AMar 5, 20151 votes

In those types of situations there are 3 options, kill the jungler in a counter gank and go for it, or gank midlane and either force their mid to back, or get a kill. With that you can take your midlaner and have bot come up and that is a 3v4 with the pressure of a mage that does high damage at early stages to a lifesteal less adc. It would only be a 3v4 if their jungler shows up. If he's out of position it's free. If the enemy midlaner is back group with your midlaner and 4 man gank bottom, even if they're ahead they are in a 2:1 ratio with 3 people that do damage to the adc's 1. You can force a dragon that way.

Sirin GioroMar 4, 20151 votes

How I got out of Bronze and currently Mustard Tier? Support. No I am not lying. Last season it took me 40~ games to get out, 105 this season.

Top lane has no impact unless you have Teleport to gank and snowball bot lane. Generally I pick Sion if I have to top because of his oppressive laning and hard engage for teamfight. Garen is shit, even though he counters Riven. I hope you understand. Sometimes you need to play useful champions.

ScramrailMar 4, 20151 votes

Find out which champions can carry based for each lane and run with them. Examples would be Katarina mid lane, Tryndamere for top lane, MasterYi in the jungle Annie for support and like Kalista for adc. These are just examples, there are plenty more and some of these might not even be all that carry-capable but as a general rule in bronze people tend to not know how to counter champions like Katarina and even though its pretty easy to do so.

I used to have a lot of fun in bronze playing Pantheon top with TP and just constantly ulting/TPing to mid/bot. Combined with jungle ganks they can force the enemy to play super passive and let your laners basically free farm. Just be aware that Pantheon isn't really a champion that can solo carry a game.