How Do I Get Good As Vi Again?

Howldoom·4/28/2015, 5:02:04 AM·1 votes·713 views
  • Bought Vi back in December/January
  • Placed at the bottom of Bronze 5 in Placements, largely based off being the bottom of Bronze 4 in Season 4
  • Won my way to Promos for Bronze 2
  • Then losing streak my way back to the middle of Bronze 4

Lost the last four games as Vi. Last match as her in Normal: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1807213586/203289894?tab=overview

About Me as Vi:

  • R>Q>E>W or R>Q>W>E
  • AS marks, AD quints, Armor Seals, MR Glyphs (recently switched to Scaling MR from Flat)
  • 21/9/0 masteries
  • Stalker's Blade w/ Warr (recently also trying Cinderhulk, because the friggin tank meta) - either a damage item (usually try to build/rush TF every time) or more tank. Final build tends to incorporate Banshee's Veil and Randuin's/Frozen Heart, more armor/HP/MR, 1-2 damage items potentially including the jg item if Warr
  • Tries farming for core items, ganking when I can (see below), stealing dragon when I can and if doing so will not put me in a 1v2-5, wards, tries focusing on objectives

About Me As A Player:

  • Practices by playing normals; not too interested in chaining customs or bots, since I see nothing to actually win
  • Probably tilts way too much; one loss in any mode usually gets me upset with myself
  • Focuses more on personal errors than on team member performance; raging at the team does nothing
  • Frequent ward-planter by habit
  • As a jg, only ganks if near the lane and if doing so will not put me under the enemy turret, or if doing so will not put me as risk of feeding, or if the ally is there to benefit. Otherwise tries to finish core items via farming or assassin-style ganks on very low-health people
  • In retrospect, has trouble properly balancing between putting pressure on the map and keeping myself even
  • Tends to mute everyone to prevent being affected by possible toxicity, or being called a dumbfuck for not being able to save the ally/ not ulting before I get killed/ not having Smite available to last-hit the enemy's 5th dragon. Politely tells people to slit their throats you fuckin harlots before muting them if the rage is too much.
  • Not the most variable build person; tends to stick with core/general items, plus something in the late game depending on what the enemy team has (and if we even reach that point)
  • Has asked for tons of help thus far, but either everyone has different viewpoints for how to play as Vi, or I may not be applying any serious "practice" styled gameplay, merely adopting the suggested items and playing Vi as usual.
  • Stopped Ranked for now after dropping to the halfway mark of Bronze 4; roughly 50% win rate in Normals, 30% in Ranked according to op.gg

SO as a Vi jungler in 5.7/5.8:

  • What should I be itemizing/rune-ing/masterizing as? Stalker's or Ranger's, Warr or CH, rush TF or a tank item, what should my final build be?
  • I'm basically lost as Vi currently; any other help? Or should I not play Vi competitively anymore, what with the times? Any better win-rate junglers with low ban rates (because the Sejuani... I miss her...)
  • Considering some kind of tutor to supervise me playing and structuring me towards better gameplay. Clearly I can't trust myself and my mild-Asperger's-like brain to follow a guide or random posts;otherwise my win rate with her (and in general) would be climbing NOT INTERESTED in paying for services, unfortunately; also holds a full-time job with hours similar to what it was in high school (college graduate these days, for an idea of age)

4 Comments

Howldoom4/28/2015, 7:31:45 AM1 votes

Added context: current goal is to get to Gold V at least.

IcyPepper4/28/2015, 7:35:45 AM1 votes

Here's what I've been doing in normals, and after some practice and experimenting I found a decent build for her. Haven't tried in ranked yet, but here's my two cents:

start item 1039 (obviously) gank a lot, buy item 3706 item 3134 then build item 3709 item 3071 (I suggest the first since it's cheaper, but order is really up to you) Depending on team comp and if you're snowballing, you can go item 3078 or head straight to tank but build item 3009 first you want item 3102 and item 3143 at some point, maybe sub a item 3065 consider item 3083 as well

Armstice4/28/2015, 2:37:55 PM1 votes

Build tanky with attack speed. Your w will do enough work to live in the tank meta.

Sirsir4/28/2015, 2:54:51 PM1 votes

For one thing AS Quints and AD marks are a better combination, gold-wise. Not that it has a huge impact on your Vi play its just a nitpick :P 21/9, starting Ranger isn't a terrible thing, it will keep you topped off for early ganks. But you want to switch to Stalkers when you finish your item.

What is your level 1 skill? Should be either W or E, probably E for the passive shield.

Build should either be Warrior>Tri or Cinder>BotRK, first explodes squishes second demolishes tanks with your W and BotRK. If your team needs someone to dive the backline and blow stuff up pick the first one. If your team needs peel or the enemy has 3 tanky members (not pure tanks but tanky, see Vlad) pick the second one.

Work on variable builds, items like Maw can be amazing. If you use warrior, decide after getting your boots if you should continue to build damage or move on to tanky. 2 offensive items, one mixed item (Like Maw) and 2 tanky items, plus boots.

On the whole, focus your build on attack speed, pen, health and, with resistances.