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Let's talk support. v3

Pãwz··4 votes·1,620 views
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Yo, my IGN is Pãwz and I main support. I've gotten to Diamond 1 in season 4, and during season 4 I was ranked the number 1 Nami player in the world on LoLskill. Currently standing at Diamond 3, with my eyes set on Challenger this season. I want to talk about supports, and hopefully introduce new perspectives on the role for others and myself. What supports do you prefer, what support items (or non support items) do you like, what runes do you take? I'd like to promote the mindset that there are different ways of support. I'd prefer to focus on mechanics as a support in this thread, but will talk about anything support related. If you want to come watch me play check out my stream above. I'm more a visual leaner, so its easier for me to explain stuff by showing rather than just talking about it. I'm also willing to commentate during stream if asked to do so. I'll be checking in ever so often on the thread. So... let's talk about supports...

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G L2 votes

This girl is pretty cute, and a good streamer

freeformline2 votes

I think myself a fairly capable support already, but I am clearly far from the best. What do you see as being the primary areas in which good supports (support mains ranked gold and above) can improve? I'd be open to input from anyone in the thread, of course, not just the poster.

Pãwz3 votes

Awareness. Is probably the sole thing that separates +Gold supports from silver and below supports. Being aware of opportunities, and avoiding unfavorable situations. Constantly checking your minimap to track the enemy jungler and enemy laners, so that you can try to prevent your lane or someone else on your team from getting ganked. Also making the call to go get an objective after a fight, roaming when you see fit (your adc backed but you have full hp/mana - time to roam mid!). Things like this may seem minor, oh look at my minimap and i'll gain elo... easy. Its not only looking looking at your minimap, its the reason why your looking at it, to gain information and gaining elo comes down to how you use that information to your advantage.

wwwdots1 votes

awareness is something that every person in game should have, but a support who know how to pressure and peel and follow up is difference between a trash support and good one. most support under plat just sit there and wait for cd....

Pãwz1 votes

true, mechanics are really important, just tie them in with map awareness and your golden.

wwwdots2 votes

most people don't understand the full concept of vision or information that they see. for example when u first get to bot lane, when ur jungle is at top side for first buff and you ur opponents get to bot later then u, most people don't think about what this means. it means their jungler is starting at bottom side. from this information u can take an estimate guess of their jungler positioning. when a fight occurs, theres an announcement, and u see a list of assist when one of ur team mate dies, that also gives out positioning. I constantly hear stupid request like support go ward dragon or baron. its not important to ward these things, it important to ward around it ahead of time so u know if they are gonna go after it or not, if people are in no position of contesting its no diferent then watching them take it and u spent 20 sec siting there watching.

yeah mechanical skill is important, but a mechanical player with out knowledge and inability to process information every sec of game, only gets them gold, or plat at most?

Ethri1 votes

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most people don't understand the full concept of vision or information that they see

yeah mechanical skill is important, but a mechanical player with out knowledge and inability to process information every sec of game, only gets them gold, or plat at most?

I fully agree with this, and this is probably one of the reason I don't play ranked much/ at all. I've played a ton of games, yet I fail on mechanical level and my information attention is very fragmented. I mean I know what I'm supposed to do, but fail to do it. So if something happens I know what I could have done better, but I still have trouble carrying that knowledge/ skill into future games.

Raise Dongrs2 votes

I love playing Thresh, and sometimes I build item 3091 to take kills if we're dominating c:

Aisamai1 votes

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Pãwz1 votes

I's say start from the ground up. Try playing as many supports you can and get a feel for one that you feel most comfortable with. I prefer ranged champs so i like playing Nami, Janna or Lulu. And once you get a champ then worry about in lane mechanics and the things supports should do after laning phase.

EllaRyu691 votes

if i had to choose who to buy with IP first, Nami, Sona, Lulu or Blitz, which one should i get first?

Pãwz2 votes

I'd recommend Nami. Her kit is ideal for a support. She has a stun + heal + auto buff + mass disengage for a team fight. If your starting to take supporting more seriously i'll note that if you devote time into playing Nami you'll most likely grow skill wise as a player.

Weaknesses/strengths with the other champs would be.... -Sona is mega squishy

+Sona can condition the player to deal with micromanaging through the use of her unique kit/she has a strong ulti for team fights/strong laning with poke and sustain

-Lulu strong laner, but lacks sustain in a 2v2 setting/not a favored pick in the current meta

+Lulu (I personally think) she's a hella good pick against assassins if she's played as a support (as soon as the assassin tries to go in to blow up a carry you poly them to make their life miserable)/her ulti is most effective with teams that alrdy have strong engages/a saving ulti

-Blitz... I like to think of him as a lazy support, but effective. If you play blitz you can gain elo easily but you'll be less aware of the little/most important things that supports do/ his kit offers little to no utility for a team/ his design is targeted towards blowing up a target/ he can be hard counted by someone who can play another all in support well. Also it can be hella discouraging if you keep missing pulls (but so is life, at least your trying).

+Blitz can cause hella high stress for your opponent with his grab. Can cause people to go on tilt easily(in lower/higher elo)/can make game changing pulls in the mid to late game/forces the enemy team to fight if someone is pulled(this is the only kind of counter play to fighting a blitz when pulled).

Hope this helps.

EllaRyu691 votes

thx for the info :3

i'm a Leona supp main btw and it's been ups and downs depending on how good my adc follows me up

and occationally Morgana supp

Dpp9p4bHPA1 votes

whats it like getting carried like a bitch every game?

Pãwz1 votes

implying im the one getting carriedTrundle

Lwnt1 votes

I have question about rising in the rank when maining as a support.

When playing as support you dont have a lot of damage so you depend on others to get the kill for you. So you will support ur teammate as much as you can to help them get the kill or save their lives. In solo q you get different types of teammates for example you will get a teammate who are amazing and is like the easiest person to support when getting a kill. Then you have other teammate who are not so good and as you support them as much as you can to save them but they still manage to die after or they are struggling to get the kill. How do you deal with teammate like these? What is ur advice when it comes to this situation?

Pãwz2 votes

Support is probably the hardest role to try and gain elo with at lower elo, so I wanna start off with saying never give up, its possible to climb! Its just a bit trickier and you really have to play the game. It becomes easier when you understand match ups and have a good grasp as to what things your expected to do as a support (as well as the things you shouldn't be expected to do, as in, things the rest of your team should be doing).

When I first started playing ranked I was Silver and since then I have learned that its best to play your lane by ear. And when I say that I mean, play to the tempo of your adc. In one game you'll get an adc who plays super aggro and in another game you'll get one who only farms and waits for your stun/cc or the jungler to make plays. Your not expected to be a mind reader but you can pace yourself while laning and use your judgement to be an effective support. You just have to keep your cool if something goes unexpected and if you have to type to your adc to play less aggressive or less passive. A lot of the time you can get punished for playing over aggressive and thats when you have to play smart by placing wards when your lane is moving foward to back up your aggression. And other times you'll get adc's who play like a dead fish and afk farm, which is really poor because for one you'll be going in for a trade and find yourself in a 1v2 scenario with your adc just farming and two no pressure is being put in the lane so if the enemy bot lane roams your lane won't be able to match it. If this happens to you, try pinging what enemy you want to focus or give your adc a heads up that he/she needs to stop the afk farm and put pressure in the lane.

TLDR: if your trying to play a utility based support it'll take time and patience to move up the ladder but if you get good at it you'll have solid mechanics and should get diamond easily. Also you could always opt out and play aggro all in champs/high based ap supports to get kills, but you'll still need to work on your mechanics to do certain things to close out games.

Pãwz1 votes

Come learn the secrets behind support! I shall teach you young grasshopper...

Pãwz1 votes

Thoughts on the new Zilean? What did you normally build on him? What will you build now? Is he even a support anymore? Only played one game so far with the new Zil and I think he plays smooth as butter as support. Watch out janna your not the only mega ranged support anymore...timesZilean are a changin.

Pãwz1 votes

A time to note, for supports looking to climb in elo, try to grasp champion match ups. Being able to pick counters to enemy team comps and a strong support if your first pick, will make your games worlds easier.

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