So now with the whole new crit system ashe has, would it be more cost effective to buy stattik shiv over infinity edge as a first item? I feel like it would even help duels more considering the attack speed will allow her to proc her new q faster. Feel free to prove me wrong thanks
zane yalgir1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sandshrew Ftw,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=ggcryqWE,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-05-17T04:26:59.798+0000)
So now with the whole new crit system ashe has, would it be more cost effective to buy stattik shiv over infinity edge as a first item? I feel like it would even help duels more considering the attack speed will allow her to proc her new q faster. Feel free to prove me wrong thanks
ie is about as core as you get it can be hard to cs though tell you get it.
the best way to think bout it is about her aa
her aa might hit more and faster. but you need the ie for damge.
the ie is a bs broken power spike for ashe i pernsally think its better to go ie into statik
YerALizardHarry1 votesNot trying to be rude I'm just noob, can you explain exactly why ie does more dmg?
50000000000000001 votesIE gives you AD, but statikk shiv does not.
YerALizardHarry1 votesOhh ok
zane yalgir1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sandshrew Ftw,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=ggcryqWE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2015-05-17T05:52:55.627+0000)
Ohh ok
it also give crit chance and i think it said you lost the ie passive idk though
what do you think is better
20 crit with 60 ad - those are outta my ass i dont keep track
or 20 crit with attack speed and a weak passive
Duke Anax1 votesOf course IE is a lot better because it costs 1300 Gold more.
However it doesn't stack well on it's own because it only get's you 30% extra dps until you buy more crit items.
Let's say for the sake of math Ashe has 80 AD and 1 AS (that's roughly level 12 with Berserkers)
Then she get's IE: (160 AD * 1AS) * 140% crit = 224 DPS
alternatively she gets a SS and a BFS (slightly more gold than IE)
(130 AD * 1.5 AS) * 130% crit = 253,5 DPS
after having spend almost the same gold we are already at more damage, without the SS passive. But we also have an easier build path and thus a better early game.
As far as first items go IE is NOT the best choice because it increases crit and you don't have much crit chance.
Though I'm not sure how well the extra early AD would interact with Flurry and Volley.
zane yalgir1 votes[{quoted}](name=Duke Anax,realm=EUW,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=ggcryqWE,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-05-17T09:37:51.177+0000)
Of course IE is a lot better because it costs 1300 Gold more.
However it doesn't stack well on it's own because it only get's you 30% extra dps until you buy more crit items.
Let's say for the sake of math Ashe has 80 AD and 1 AS (that's roughly level 12 with Berserkers)
Then she get's IE: (160 AD * 1AS) * 140% crit = 224 DPS
alternatively she gets a SS and a BFS (slightly more gold than IE)
(130 AD * 1.5 AS) * 130% crit = 253,5 DPS
after having spend almost the same gold we are already at more damage, without the SS passive. But we also have an easier build path and thus a better early game.
As far as first items go IE is NOT the best choice because it increases crit and you don't have much crit chance.
Though I'm not sure how well the extra early AD would interact with Flurry and Volley.
with the way her q works i still think ie is better
Duke Anax1 votesAs far as the new crit system is concerned nothing has changed at all. Ashe has almost the same (10% bonus) crit dps as any other adc, just without the random waves.
Poptart Evelynn1 votesIE is 10x better simply because of the crit damage also giving her bonus damage.
ChexMex1 votesLet's put it this way.
You have a choice between a sword or an upgrade that allows you to attack faster.
If you choose the sword, you'll hit slower but you will do damage
If you choose the upgrade, you will hit faster but do a quarter as much damage, however the upgrade does not multiply your attack speed by x4, it only increases it by 40%.
You need the sword before you get the upgrade for the sword.