Im laning as cho vs riven

TheDuelist999·Feb 2, 2015·1 votes·820 views

do you think cloth 4 hp and 1 mana pot would be a good start

7 Comments

TehNACHOFeb 2, 20151 votes

Cloth and 5, max your E first.

Try not to die level 1, get your Q level 2 to counter her hard engage, level E level 3, level W 4, continue maxing E. Your Q and W are there to peel for you, don't spam them, just save them and time them to negate Riven's damage. Good positioning with your E can both help you last hit beyond your reach, which helps you scale and utilize your passive sustain, and help you harass Riven, which can turn one of her engages around if you play correctly.

TheDuelist999Feb 2, 20151 votes

thx for the advice but it was a lil late i went doran ring 2 hp pots Got e level one killed 3 minions before she got back from leashing warded against a level two gank ( i got lucky as laning phase went on had no ganks either way because my fiddle was all up in nocturns jungle doing work). She tried to trade in my 6 minions it went about even.(she went long 4) Then i stepped a bit back and she wasnt willing to follow through my minions I popped a pot and killed minions to get to lvl two and get my passive hp then when she hit lvl 2 she tried to go in and qed underneath me and she hopped into it. She drew some minion agro and ended up using all her pots. At this point we are both just about lvl 3 Im full hp with one pot and she is just below full hp with no pots. After a point in q and e i max w. She continues to trade with me and i lost one and ended up zoned a bit since she had ignite and i did not. She hit then hits six tried to kill me not realizing i was straddling the line of my turret range she died first but i died to ignite. I teled back in with catalyst and 3 of each pot before the minions got in to my turret got to level seven by the time she was back to lane. She had brut but lost some trades and only had one pot so she ended up zoned, Than by 9 the wave got to her turret and i dove and nommed her for the kill and from that point i was able to bully her I ended up roaming some and then grouping she tried to split but didnt make fast progress because i would come back and shove the wave about to her blue buff and then go back with my team. I finished 8-3-5 with a win she ended 4-5-2 with a loss.

now hard to get a picture of the game from a verbal description but do you wave any advice I used to max e first but then i decided one point was really enough for it to do its job and w has some nice base dmg increases and I believe an increase in the silence time when you lvl it.

SohleksFeb 2, 20151 votes

I would personally start Doran's Ring + 2 pots. Start E. Take Q second. Max E.

9-21-0, magic or hybrid pen marks, attack speed quints, armor seals, and scaling mr glyphs (if zero ap threats take scaling ap or cdr glyphs)

Cho's E on hit steroid is crazy strong, ranged area of effect damage with no mana costs. It is quite honestly superior to rely on E for damage so you can focus on using W and Q mostly for disruption. If you take E level 1 you can shove the lane easily and if she ever tries to wack you near your minions just disrupt and hit her back. You have far better sustain until she has a BT or Hydra and both of those heavily delay her armor pen.

Whatever happens it is imperative you focus on last hitting for recovery, with E ranked up it's very very easy.

There may be situations where the ranged poke/burst of leveling Q or W might work, especially W for the increased silence (may be good in this Riven matchup). E is crazy strong though. If your damage is tied to a 9 or 12 second cooldown and part of your CC you're either trading damage output or safety...

My build path is typically double doran's + cloth armor into sorc's shoes then Zhonyas. Don't really need RoA. I might pick up a thornmail after Zhonyas. Hue. Or more AP is good. With full feast stacks and defense masteries you are reasonably tanky.

TheDuelist999Feb 2, 20151 votes

chos ap ratios are so huge and so much of it is true dmg i never bother with pen on cho

Drunk RummateFeb 2, 20151 votes

Dorans ring and max your silence. You want dorans for the mana regen and AP. You don't need cloth because Riven has a hard time all inning you as chogath. You want Riven to be standing there without abilities for as long as possible. If she jumps to you just silence and walk away. If she continues chasing just drop your Q on her while she's silenced (so she can't dodge it). She takes a huge chunk of damage from minions and your ability and you get away scott free. Post 6 you should be able to get a very easy kill with feast.

I recommend RoA against her as a first buy. Riven doesn't deal well with tons of HP. Armor is nice but it doesn't help as much against her execute as flat HP, and cho gets a LOT of flat hp between his feast stacks and RoA.

NugosaurusFeb 2, 20151 votes

tbh i'd probably either start cloth 5 or flask, riven can be a huge lane bully but cho has better sustain and can just silence or knock her up if she tries to run up and beat you up and if you try to trade, make sure your minion wave is bigger than hers early minion dmg is cray

Big HansFeb 3, 20151 votes

Maybe ive been doing it wrong but usually if the opponent doesnt have crazy sustain I just max my Q and simply poke them down with it untill I have a big HP advantage. Trying to avoid melee trades.