Would buying relic shield as an ADC instead of doran's 1 or longsword 3 be a bad idea?

7ha7guy777·Aug 3, 2015·1 votes·990 views

Your support will get more gold from relic shield gold share allowing them to buy sightstone or whatever they need slightly faster. You lose some damage and lifesteal but you get some hp and more pots.

Double relic double bruiser botlane seems to work depending on the matchup. Maybe it works because of the quick level 2 because the first 2-4 minions that die get executed.

Is it a bad idea for the adc to grab relic shield or is this something that might actually work (most likely at low elo)?

9 Comments

j jAug 4, 20154 votes

you sacrifice too much laning potential and that item is absolutely useless in terms of fighting. where you can still get use out of your dorans in team fights or lane fights etc.

OnegarionAug 4, 20152 votes

It was good back when they came out and the execution worked for everyone. Now you don't get enough in combat stats from it and while yes you will have a slightly earlier lvl 2, if i'm the opposing support you won't be living very long after. You can't hurt us or live very long. You can get the lvl 2, but I'm getting you out of lane before you know it.

7ha7guy777Aug 4, 20151 votes

The early level 2 would only happen with double bruiser bot or melee adc bot. Ranged adcs can't use the execution so the only advantage would be extra gold for the support.

OnegarionAug 4, 20151 votes

you clearly didn't read what i said. When the item first came out in Season 4 it didn't have the melee only execute. Anyone could kill it under the execute threshold.

Because double relic was so strong in bot lane at the time they nerfed it so only melees could register the execute. I'm a support main so trust me when I say you aren't telling me something I don't know. I tell enough people that complain when thresh can't work with relic because they don't know about the execute.

7ha7guy777Aug 4, 20151 votes

I read what you said, but i don't think i responded properly. I was confirming that the early level 2 doesn't happen if the adc builds relic because they don't get the execute. If anything, it's a later level 2 unless the support is hitting minions because you lose 7 or 10 AD by taking relic over doran or longsword. Based on the fact that the extra gold is minimal unless you continue building targon's and face it's probably a terrible idea. The extra gold won't help until you back and will probably be minimal by the time you need to sell it. Double relic singed volibear bot seems to still be effective in low elo but a ranged adc is usually needed elsewhere for it to be effective.

OnegarionAug 4, 20151 votes

yea but low elo anything is possible. I've run talon/J4, Shaco/teemo, and swain/Xerath. Anything works in low elo because people don't know how to play around it.

7ha7guy777Aug 4, 20151 votes

True. I've done maokai/blitz, blitz/adc nasus, malz/heimer, malz/swain, ziggs/heimer, varus/gnar, varus/heimer... All with varying success and occassionally some raging on the enemy team

RivvyAug 4, 20151 votes

While the idea of giving the support more gold is always a great idea, you'd still have more of a lane advantage as a whole for both you, and your support if you took a dorans blade.

By being able to trade with the enemy laners, you'll be doing your Support more of a favor than being able to give them more gold.

One thing about bot lane is that you rely on your lane partner, and that goes both ways. By keeping your damage as the ADC you keep your ability to trade and hold the lane with your support. The Support needs to be able to rely on you to output damage in any trade, while you rely on the support to provide the means to win the trade.

TL;DR- Its more efficient and more effective to buy Dorans Blade.

BastionKrossAug 4, 20151 votes

Double relic bruiser top started to become a thing when the item was first released. People were running 2-1-2 comps without a jungler and doing pretty well with it. Unfortunately, this was before Riot got smart and started to figure out that "diversity = good"; and killed that meta off by nerfing the relic so that it wasn't efficient enough to duo lane with two of them.

This is sad, since having a new meta (or at least a viable meta alternative) would have made things fresh again.