OLAF IS BASICALLY NERFED VERSION OF VOLIBEAR

546f7047756e·Nov 21, 2014·2 votes·1,724 views

Ya olaf is flawed he's just Volibear, but nerfed. He moves so slow and his axe throw isn't reliable enough to catch down opponents and he has no escape so he gets kited so easily. Volibear's q is just more useful/reliable, as an escape and catching down opponents. Volibear's bite also do A LOT more damage than olaf's true damage E. At lvl 18 for example, Voli's bite can do well over 600 damage. While olaf's e does true damage, its only about 300. VOlibear's ult gives 75 damage at lvl 1 and lasts 12 sec plus its AOE magic damage, while olaf's ult at lvl 1 gives 40 physical damage and only lasts 6 seconds. And Despite olaf's decent lifesteal, volibears passive overall makes him more tanky.

So all in all, volibear is better than olaf as a dualist and more useful/reliable/tankier in team fights. Don't get me wrong, Olaf is a not a bad dualist, just that Volibear is a better dualist. If you think I'm wrong, please don't hesitate to enlighten me on why he's not inferior to Volibear.

18 Comments

WeakdayzzNov 21, 20142 votes

His axe literally doesnt even help you reach the enemy even maxed.

XtremeyNov 21, 20141 votes

His axe literally doesnt even help you reach the enemy even maxed.

that's why they made the new item that speeds you up and shit.

Leti the YetiNov 21, 20142 votes

volibear and olaf does different stuff how do u compare that ;l

lets see volibear's superiority over olaf when he gets cc'ed

annnd u know true damage > bite

546f7047756eNov 21, 20141 votes

His true damage still does less damage than volibears W. Its been tested and experimented many times. And ya olaf is so slow that you don't need to CC him to kite or run from him.

Leti the YetiNov 21, 20141 votes

well... thats why its a spammable true damage get spamming olaf's shit tons of life steal and attack speed makes the CD and health cost negligible

EffectFXNov 22, 20141 votes

Volibear's W deals 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 15% of bonus health) + 1% per 1% missing HP up to 160 / 250 / 340 / 430 / 520 (+ 30% of bonus health) damage as physical.

Olaf deals 70 / 115 / 160 / 205 / 250 (+ 40% AD) damage as true damage.

So it looks like it deals more damage. Until you remember how resistances work AND...

Frenzy CD = 18 seconds Reckless Swing = 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 / 8. 1 Autoattack = 1 second less.

So no, the bite doesn't deal more damage.

If you can't catch people as olaf with Axe/Blade/Ghost/Randuins/RG then quite possibly it's you and not olaf.

KFDizzleNov 21, 20141 votes

item 3070

i am a girlNov 21, 20141 votes

But olaf can wreck a volibear

546f7047756eNov 21, 20141 votes

Um no, Like I said in post, volibear is a better dualist than olaf. And he counters olaf as well.

kokopelli2Nov 21, 20141 votes

I didnt realize cc immunity, bonus ad, spammable tru damage, attack speed that scales with missing health, and bonus regen from ALL SOURCES scaling on missingn health makes someone a bad duelist. Thanks for teaching me!

546f7047756eNov 21, 20141 votes

I never said he's a bad dualist, just that Volibear is a better dualist. That's why Volibear counters Olaf.

Jungles MineNov 21, 20141 votes

You still forget that olaf outscales volibear making him better.

546f7047756eNov 21, 20141 votes

Actually he doesn't outscale volibear, that's why voli coutners him. At lvl 18 depending on how you chose to build him, Volibear can have armor/mr about 200 or much more, 3900 hp or more, well over 400 hybrid damage with ult activated, and great atk speed if u build atk speed on him (which you should), plus move speed of 470. At least those are his stats with the way I build him.

Urf KingNov 21, 20141 votes

You really can't compare voli and olaf, they both are strong, and excel at their purpose. Also, if you don't think olafs axe is a reliable tool to catch someone, you're using his axe wrong, or suck at skillshots. But the thing is, you can't judge a champ based on its counters. That's the equivalent of saying, "orianna sucks, because syndra beats her. Which means syndra is just a better orianna." It's flawed logic.

546f7047756eNov 21, 20141 votes

Actually I land almost all of my axes. The thing is, 1 they can dodge the shot, making it less reliable than volibear's q and e combo, and 2, its not a good aoe slow like volibear's e. Im comparing them cuz they are both bruisers and more or less have the same purpose in game. SYndra and oriana have diff purpose in teamfight, volibear and olaf have similar purpose.

Urf KingNov 21, 20141 votes

The problem with your thinking, though is voli can easily get cc'd during his q, screwing up that entire combo. So long as olaf is competent enough to land his axe, he's fine. Voli's q e combo isnt foolproof, dood. And the thing with that, though, voli has to be in your face to use his slow, so he can be kited to death. And I don't agree with you, they both fill different purposes. Voli is more of an all-around damage soak and peeler. Whereas olaf is better at running through their frontline to attack their backline. If you don't use voli to peel, honestly you're using him wrong, and the opposite can be said about olaf; if you're using him to peel, you're using him wrong. They have nowhere near the same purpose.

546f7047756eNov 22, 20141 votes

Ur right to some extend, but as someone with over 400 voli games in ranked and got me from Bronze 5 to Gold, and onwards, Sure I agree voli can be kited, but all tanks/bruisers have the same problem. You gotta use him and time things right. For example, voli's flash flip can be a game changer. But when flash isn't up, you don't just run into enemy team with q out right. You look for opportunities. Ya I use volibear to peel, but if u go full tank on him without anyway damage or atkspeed item, ur building him wrong.

Volibear can run into enemy team, aoe slow and damage them, and totally knocking their formation apart. Olaf just doesn't have that awesome team fight ability. especially in higher elos, good luck pining down enemy carries as olaf.