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Need Advice for Cooldown Reduction

FeedFed·2/6/2015, 7:57:09 PM·2 votes·1,222 views

I think one of the most important thing about an apc is to get a decent CDR, cause unlike adc, you're useless if your skills are not useable, cause you don't deal any damage with your normal attack.

Champions like Annie Veigar don't need high CDR cause they have natural short CDR and they're also known as 'One Combo Nuker' Also, champions like Katarina Cassiopeia don't need extra CDR items, cause of passive and skill options (e.g. Cassi's E)

However, for the most of the apc champions, CDR (40%) is a MUST (Some examples: Lux Morgana Ahri )

They are ABSOLUTELY USELESS without high CDR cause their CDs are really long or they have to spam skills to deal damage.

The problem and my question is just.. Since Rito has removed 'Elixir of Brilliance', 'Deathfire Grasp' and reworked the blue buff's time, to max CDR contains always a big penalty:

These five items are the only remaining options item 3158 item 3174 item 3165 item 3023 item 3152 but, all of them cause you dealing much lower damage than usual.

I think Rito wants to renew the meta and make overall apcs weaker, but well.. It's a bit too much for me..

What do you guys do nowadays to get decent CDR?

12 Comments

xxSyn2/6/2015, 8:13:10 PM1 votes

im not the best to offer any type of advice, but have you ever tried cdr runes?

The Chin2/6/2015, 8:26:55 PM1 votes

My buddy builds morello's and athenes on Lux

Drunk Rummate2/6/2015, 9:03:16 PM1 votes

First you take the 5% CDR mastery. Next:

If I want 40% CDR on a mage I take 9 scaling CDR glyphs (15% at level 18) and build an athenes or a morellonomicon.

If I want 40% CDR on an AD champion I take 6 flat CDR glyphs and 3 scaling CDR glyphs (5% at level 1, 10% at level 18) and I build ionian boots and a brutalizer for the other 30%

Keep in mind that 40% CDR on a mage is really mana intensive and doesn't work in a lot of cases. Champions like Orianna, Ziggs, Xerath, etc. do not function well with that much CDR because they will go out of mana so quickly.

Only Play Darius2/6/2015, 9:36:07 PM1 votes

item 3110 item 3115

Sypher The Poro2/6/2015, 9:44:22 PM1 votes

My Lux build in order of items bought/sold: item 1056 > item 1056 > item 3174 (against AP champion) | item 3165 (Against AD champion) > item 3020 >item 3174 or item 3165 (Whichever I didn't buy. At this point you're at 40%.) > Sell item 1056 > item 3089 > item 3157 > Sell item 1056 > item 3135 > item 3259 > item 2139 > item 3361

Final build: item 3174 item 3165 item 3089 item 3157 item 3135 item 3259 item 3361 item 2139 I buy the item 3259 enchant because's Lux's base movement speed is turd and she needs all the help she can get.

And as much as item 3174 sucks after its nerf, it's great as an early item during laning phase against another AP champ to help you live longer. As fun as a pure damage build is, you will lose Lux's great zoning abilities without the mana regen.

FeedFed2/6/2015, 10:02:54 PM1 votes

Thanks guys. It was very helpful :)

Anyway.. I'm still sad about removed DFG and Elixir ;-; It's 100% a nerf for all apcs no doubt..

Magma Lux Mid2/7/2015, 1:43:17 AM1 votes

I usually get 5% from the offense tree, 2 flat CDR quints for another 5%. Then I can get Morello or Althene for another 20%, bringing it to 30%. I usually use this for Zyra since her w gives her another 10%.

For Lux, i get 5% from offensive, Althene's at some point, and a Mejai. Unless I feel like I won't be able to stack it safely, then I can either go for Ionian boots or get Morello and go over.