HELP I don't know to do

Camouflaged·10/16/2014, 6:26:49 AM·1 votes·2,195 views

I'm getting so fed up what do I do. Am i doing something wrong or is it just bad kids/bad luck. Any tips would help this is starting to piss me off I will never leave bronze this is just too much.

32 Comments

ForMyNextTrick10/17/2014, 1:34:18 PM2 votes

Okay so I've been reading through your posts and a lot of People are giving you some solid information now I'm just going to give you my 2 cents. Don't take anything I say personally this is purely to help you and I have no intention of being rude.

First of all your asking for help but you keep on arguing against the information people are giving you. Your sticking to your guns to a bronze mentality that has already proved to keep you from improving and moving forward. KDA does not matter, kills while they can translate into objectives are NOT needed in order to get them. KDA means nothing. This should be evident from the png of your Annie game, why because you didn't win despite having a good KDA. In my opinion you need to change your whole outlook on what wins games and how you go about winning. Again I'm not trying to be rude but your in bronze and there is a reason.

Firstly stop blaming teammates, almost every game is winnable and blaming teammates means your not giving yourself chance to improve because the loss is not your fault it's the bot lane feeders. If you want to improve this is not a good mindset. If your playing mid and winning lane you should be roaming to other lanes, ganking and then taking their tower. This is called extending your lead to other lanes. Or if your top and winning lane, ward and push their towers. If you find yourself pushing tower but not being able to kill it then push, let minions dmg the tower and roam mid or steal the jungle. If you bring tp top lane then use it to tele in for a drag fight or to help botlane. Kills mean nothing if you don't use it to get objectives, if you roam and get a kill or force them to recall pressure the turret.

For example: your playing zed and you've forced your enemy mid to recall and your still reasonably healthy, you go bot and force them to recall. Now you and bot take tower and the enemy has a huge wave to deal with in botlane. Now you call your jungler to help drag because botlane has just recalled, now all 4 of you go mid and push. The enemy bot laner has to choose between stopping the minion wave bot (the choice most adcs will take because of greed for gold) or stopping your mid push. If you do get mid tower you've just set yourself up with a pretty huge lead. I honestly believe if you take this to heart you'll improve.

Neckerei10/17/2014, 6:25:36 AM2 votes

Untill you accept that objectives and win rate are better than having a good kda you will remain where you are and deserve to be there.

HeroSaitama10/16/2014, 4:35:42 PM1 votes

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24891953#ranked-stats ^heres your ranked stats if you click on win shows you the most win you have but that is not important now look at win rate % if you have under a 59% win rate you should stop playing those champs if you have 60% plus preferably 65% win rate you will have a higher chance of climbing. A Big misconception is getting kills at the cost of your life is not really that good. You die way to much i personally wouldnt want to die more then 4 times in a game. If you want to get to silver before season ends i suggest you improve your csing atleast try to get 200cs by 30mins(if you can do it in 20mins its GG), help your team get objectives. just look at your win rate with champs with 60%+ avoid dying more then 4 times. Get more rune pages make appropriate rune pages per champions i could coach you out of bronze. But i charge :O $5.00 dollars an hr.

SolidPooh10/16/2014, 6:34:07 PM1 votes

I think its time for you to start adding reliable people you play with and form a team. Solo/duo queue is not the place for what you're looking for

Camouflaged10/17/2014, 1:38:02 AM1 votes

Yup its over i give up

hh the thinker10/17/2014, 7:12:02 AM1 votes

kills don't=objectives, I'm saying once you kill, you must go for objectives. if you have 11 deaths, that's too much. you are dead way too long. there is never a reason to have 10 or more deaths, unless you are getting something out of your deaths that are worth it, like a tower (and in some cases, even a tower isn't worth it). your cs was massively low that game also. I didn't watch your game so it is hard for me to point out or explain more than I have, and I am just trying to help as much as I can. I went from bronze 3 to silver 3 in a week. I understand the game enough to do that. if you think you know more or can do better in some way, then feel free. when I say kills won't help you, unless they are free enough kill and you use them, it's because I found that to be true. I could go 20/0/ or something in bronze 5 lets say and loss the game if I wanted to. kills don't = objectives.

Shokudaikiri10/17/2014, 9:22:48 AM1 votes

I'm going to suggest reading this post that was stickied up on this board: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/RNGkepKd-potd-confessions-of-a-reformed-rager-whats-pro

OhBoyItsaMegaman10/17/2014, 2:57:01 PM1 votes

If you are interested, I'll spectate you on my stream tonight and tell you what you're doing wrong that you could improve. But do you think it'll help? You've got a lot of people in your thread trying to give you very good advice, but you're rejecting a lot of that advice. If moving up in rank is important to you, don't discard advice just because it conflicts with your view of the game. The fact that we saying things that conflict with your ideas should be a hint that you need to change those ideas in order to improve (like your ideas about KDA being a good indicator of skill or ability to win).

If you are generally doing well in lane and generally getting the most kills on your team without dying too much, there must be something else that you're doing wrong to counteract that. Something that you're doing worse than the average Bronze V player, which is saying a lot. I can help you find out what that is, but you will have to actually listen to the advice and believe that it's true.

Camouflaged10/17/2014, 7:15:17 PM1 votes

To all the people that say all i care about is kills etc etc.. I'm not going to help other lanes etc. etc. look at this game and tell me I don't help my team more assist then kills.

Camouflaged10/17/2014, 7:20:18 PM1 votes

To add on my lane was the most pushed of all lanes so i wasn't all about kills. Bot was screwed so i helped top push almost to inhib before the game was over.

ACGIFT10/18/2014, 12:36:09 AM1 votes

Well, it looks like you CAN learn some lessons... As you did seem to improve on a few things that were pointed out. So I think you ARE taking a step in the right direction. Just know that it's not going to be magically fixed in one day.

But still, there's more to work upon. You've gotten better at building your items, and a bit better at making sure to push, but your roaming was still lacking a lot; you never really seemed to help out in any of the significant fights that took place in the other lanes, until you were having to defend your own territory. Most of the time you seemed to be with the rest of your team was when it'd fallen into the "everyone group mid" tactic.

Lastly, remember that dragon, at least until the new rift comes out, is every bit a critical objective control as much as turrets are. And again, it seems dragon control has eluded you and your team.

I suppose to be more specific I'd have had to have watched the full match; for instance, I don't know what happened for your team to lose the big lead you had 18 minutes in, after Blitzcrank got three kills and helped you push your second mid tower... Or what circumstances led to the teamfight collapse in front of your middle inhibitor 33 minutes in, and let them push all the way to the nexus. I could make guesses... But can't guarantee that they'd be accurate ones. I mean, for all I know Jinx Jinx was still dead, and your team was baited away from the turret into the jungle... Which is just about NEVER a sound strategic choice. One should've been spamming yellow pings, as that's a reliable way to crack open an enemy that keeps resisting at their inhibitor turrets.

Camouflaged10/18/2014, 1:19:33 AM1 votes

I'll go and play a match and post the lolreplay link here so y'all can finally watch how I play

Camouflaged10/22/2014, 6:08:31 AM1 votes

Why am i in bronze >.<

Neckerei10/16/2014, 8:55:28 AM1 votes

nearly every loss can be prevented. Now if that was one idk i was in your game or watched it. I also could not tell you what you did wrong becuase i did not see the game. Most causes of losses in that case is lack of vision. You dying as the main carry. Or you not roaming to help other lanes who were obviously struggling.

Camouflaged10/22/2014, 6:09:29 AM1 votes

And my penta kill

ACGIFT10/16/2014, 2:19:25 PM1 votes

Well, all we can really go on is the match history, but taking a look... Any of the following mistakes could've been what resulted in the same: your ability to carry was squandered.

  • Botlane really struggled; by 14 minutes in the enemy Graves was on a roll, 4-0. You never scored a single kill over in botlane.
  • You focused too much on scoring kills than actually helping to push objectives. You only had 5 assists (a true carry will only have way more kills than assists when snowballing early-mid game) and critically, you never pushed your tower while in lane phase.
  • And in spite of all your kills, you still failed to shut down the enemy Zed; he still went 10-8-4.
  • Your Olaf top lane was doing pretty solid; while mostly they just traded kills with Singed, they worked wonders to take out towers, and took two of Singed's without losing any well before late game... But it looks like he didn't get much support that he needed.
  • When the enemy only had three resist items (and nothing on Zed or Singed, the main issues) getting BOTH Abyssal Scepter and Void Staff was a dubious choice at best when finishing that Deathfire Grasp would've done far better for you nuking others down. Worse yet: you built the Void Staff before the enemy team had ANY MR items... Making it a complete waste.
  • The biggest eye-opener was that it took over 36 minutes before ANY enemy turrets on your lane got destroyed. If you've secured an early snowball lead over the enemy, it's your job to take their tower, giving you freedom to roam and win the OTHER lanes. You should've had Zed worrying too much about holding his lane to gain any traction, while you and Olaf roamed, and won bottom lane.

tl;dr: it's a team game. Personal score doesn't determine victory whatsoever, it can only help you win it if you make use of it right.