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dodging = toxic or no?

grimreefa··3 votes·1,024 views

I suck at jungle, I'm no good at top lane, can't stand playing support. So for that reason, I plan not to play those roles. Hell, only played support once and that was as zilean on this account.

so now every time I can't get adc or mid, I dodge, especially if there are key signs that the team is likely going to be bad (example, teemo support, or clarity yi, TP/flash jungle, etc.)

Don't really mind about champion picks as long as they can be remotely meta.

Thoughts?

15 Comments

Aww Kat5 votes

dodging isnt being toxic, but you should be able to play more than 2 roles lol

grimreefa1 votes

i was called "one of the worst players in the game" on forums so i set out to get better. asked questions, had 41noob spectate a few of my games watched countless champion spotlights and instructional videos (leaguecraft101 comes to mind.) looked up guides on solo mid put my lolking now on bookmark for easy acess. hell i even used CV a few times.

the main big things i was told is dont play so many champions only play a few and stay in lane as long as possible and farm to get fed. so i am trying that harder than ever now. only play ashe and random ap mid laners these days.

can i play all 5 roles? sure i guess. but im complete crap at jungle and top and find playing support aggrovating when im being yelled at for not warding when i have wards down (yes this actually happened once.)

simply put i was told if i wanted to get anywhere in the game i would have to carry and even though i may not be a good player i find it easy to carry as adc

jungle puts too much pressure on me to gank which im not good at. top lane is slow and for those who are good at 1v1(not me) support is too much or too little action and switches all the time(dont like being tensed up after 20 minutes of relaxing doing nothing.

adc and mid i get to stay far behind and pick off cs and enemies and trade at a range with little risk of being caught out.

thats why im attracted to those 2 roles and not the others.

i may not be the friendliest player in the world. i do want to try to prove that im not some complete trash player though.

also teambuilder? ive sat in those for up to 20 minutes to get a group while the estimated time is "veryshort".

Aww Kat1 votes

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Valorin1 votes

simply put i was told if i wanted to get anywhere in the game i would have to carry and even though i may not be a good player i find it easy to carry as adc

I don't think you're looking at this the right way. When the opportunity to carry is there, by all means carry. But I would argue that pushing to carry will cause you to reach, get out of position, and ultimately play less effectively. Let the game play out as it will. If someone else is snowballing, help feed them. Ultimately the game is about teamwork and knowing when to push objectives. I'd suggest relaxing and playing the game for fun. Don't worry so much about whether you carry.

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

At most times, you have to learn 3 or 4 roles. Limiting yourself to just that 2 roles is going to put you into a very tight spot in every queue you go into.

grimreefa1 votes

i have learned how to play most of the roles but the thing is, i suck at those other roles which is why often i try to limit my self to something that i know i don't suck at.

why would you drive a standard if you don't know how to clutch and have basic driving skills with an automatic engine? read my reply to garrets comment for more info

Terminal691 votes

idk if this thread is dead but here is how i have always seen it.

whenever i play league i only want to get better, ranked or not, winning is a byproduct of improving. Right now I am focused on becoming a better adc, everything else is a waste of time for me. Im not going to spend 30 mins on a game on anything other than adc because i wont be improving at adc, rather playing a position i dont enjoy or have no interest in improving in. In sc2 you wouldnt play zerg if u play terran and u want to improve. So i say dodge away if you want to get better at a specific position. if u want to actually climb efficiently, dont dodge every game, just dodge ones with trolls etc.

Alljoy3 votes

I don't think it's toxic. Beats spending 40 minutes in a potentially toxic match where you might inadvertently end up contributing to the shit flinging.

grimreefa1 votes

this is my thoughts, I'd much rather spend 15 minutes repeatedly trying to get my role with a semi-competent team than have teams like I described.

pretty sad when i have to spend an hour waiting through dodge timers though just so i can get one of the 2 roles i am not complete garbage at.

Alljoy1 votes

I find myself in the same situation, I main Support so there's usually no contest, but otherwise I fall back on jungling.

I just can't stand laning.

hh the thinker1 votes

it's not toxic, though it is a problem if too many people do it too often. if you are willing to pay the price of some ip and time, then it's ok.

Matthias91191 votes

Play Team Builder if you want to always get the role you want. Or make a Ranked 5s team.

I mean... you can dodge 3/5 of your games in solo queue if you want, I guess. But you'll never get anywhere and the dodge penalties get atrociously long.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

I'm on the fence about this. On the one hand, if someone has to be in a role they can't play, I do prefer them to dodge rather than force me to lose, especially in ranked.

On the other hand, this usually applies when the person in last pick gets the only role they can't play. I expect that once people get to gold, they can float in any role. It's a given, due to pick order, that the players earlier in the draft should be the ones carrying (they got their preferred picks, after all).

If I were you, I would put some effort into understanding the game a little more, to the point that you can play other roles. I used to be super intimidated by top lane, and I still don't know the matchups that well, but I can go there and not feed when I'm last pick. It's just something you ought to be able to do. Again, ESPECIALLY in ranked.

I keep saying, "in ranked" because in normals, just practice something new. It's just for fun. I only take these things very seriously in ranked. I mean, I still do my best to win in normals, but I pick champions that I want to learn, or try to do new matchups. Not sure why you wouldn't want that.

SelflessTeammate1 votes

I wouldn't call it toxic, exactly, but if you're really that bad at jungling, just pick Master Yi and roll with it. He's the simplest jungler there is. His Q practically auto-clears camps for you. And if he has Red, he can probably pull off a decent gank with the slow.

Yi's not a perfect jungler, obviously, but he's an excellent starting point if you're going to learn the basics of the role. There's very little complicated about jungling with him. If you get stuck with jungle, you really shouldn't just dodge every time. Doing it once isn't toxic, but it's kind of a dick move to dodge every time because you won't take the time to learn the bare basics of it. Just try it against bots for a while until you get a feel for the flow of it.

TheGrandAlliance1 votes

Dodging is a good thing... not only does it save yourself... but it also saves your other (non-retarded) teammates from a certain loss. Just don't do it more then once every 8 hours or brush up on your failed American math skills and learn how to calucate how much time you will be AFK from the query dodge (30m for ranked) and point loss.

In Bronze... the 3LP loss from a single dodge is almost bribing you to take it. 3LP loss vs 20+LP loss (especially if your behind MMR) is not even worth thinking about it. DO IT!Ahri

One last thing... if you are on a chatban or otherwise... DONT dodge. I have had friends who been 30 game banned simply for doging 2 games in a row. Also don't dodge more then 2 games in a row per 24 period. And avoid doing it in general... the 2-game dodge is more likely to trigger an account action.

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