why do people still play ashe?

monissa·Mar 21, 2015·1 votes·2,625 views

why do people still play ashe when there are better adc champions? ones at least with passives. I hate supporting ashe

34 Comments

XxKakashiFan12xXMar 21, 20155 votes

why not

monissaMar 21, 20151 votes

because there are more effective adcs

WukongMainMar 21, 20157 votes

there are also more effective players to support, and yet you are her support. she has to deal with your poor supporting skills. :)

monissaMar 21, 20151 votes

don't try to be passive aggressive trying to call me bad when you don't even know how I play. she's not a champion that can dish out as much damage from what I have seen. if I hook, grab, charge or whatever, she can't really follow up as good as adcs like.. pretty much anyone

WukongMainMar 21, 20156 votes

if you were as good as you think you are, you'd pick a support that fits ashes play style. Maybe an annie? play passive till level 6, she ults, you aoe tibbers stun...ggwp double kill, snowball from there.

you have to recognize she is a utility adc. she isnt gonna jump in someones face and burst them down from your hook...She isn't graves. pick a support that fits your ad carries kit, and you'll find great success.

Nucleophilic atkMar 21, 20151 votes

People don't want to change the way they play. Hence, many nerfs to champs that don't deserve it.

WukongMainMar 21, 20151 votes

im not saying change the way you play, im saying learn to adapt to a situation :) in this case, Ashe. now u said your self great utility, less damage, so dont go planning on picking thresh or blitz, and expect her to burst that target down aha.

Nucleophilic atkMar 21, 20153 votes

Trust me, I know. But people like this don't. They get a Vayne ADC against a Cait and want to dive the enemy tower at level 3 for some reason. Then get pissed at the Vayne for "not helping".

WukongMainMar 21, 20151 votes

maybe she "didn't help" cause it was dumb idea to dive aha

who would dive level 3? i mean unless you're someone like Renekton that can dash in,use hes auto attacks with hes Q and W then flash+ dash out, dont dive level 3 rofl.

Nucleophilic atkMar 21, 20151 votes

Lol..my point exactly.

monissaMar 22, 20151 votes

I am not playing in ranked, but good on you for assuming I was. great success.. yes. I'll bet that's what all of the professional ashe supporters do.. oh wait, none exist. I wonder why

2000boxesMar 25, 20151 votes

because ashe is an example of an adc who will deal sustained damage while champs who are "viable" will deal burst damage like graves, kalista, lucian, and tristana it's because the fact that the dive heavy meta will cause adc's to want burst damage because if you are a squishy sustained damage dealer against a burst assassin, you will lose

Nucleophilic atkMar 21, 20155 votes

She has great utility and a very easy AA animation. I'm guessing you already know this and are trying to get circle jerky trolls to flock with you, though. Sure, she is a bit weak at the moment, and her passive sucks, but there are plenty of ADCs like that. You play what you are good with. You don't have to be a meta-dick-hugger and play the same champs the LCS players play to win lanes.

monissaMar 21, 20151 votes

you know whats better than great utility? great damage. and yes she is very weak at the moment because there are more adcs that outclass her now.

Nucleophilic atkMar 21, 20153 votes

You know what's better than great damage? Great utility. Oh look, the enemy is stunned so they can't do any damage.

WukongMainMar 21, 20154 votes

honestly in the right hands Ashe could be considered one of the best ad carries. that perma slow is just devastating

and that ulti,,dayum. zed ults you? no problem just ult him and run away

monissaMar 22, 20151 votes

item 3009

monissaMar 22, 20151 votes

Oh look, you missed. Oh look, they have item 3111 Oh look, you did no damage anyway

Truly PridefulMar 22, 20153 votes

How do you miss an ulting Zed? You know exactly where he's landing and if he returns right when he lands, his mark did no damage. It's fine to not like Ashe, but if you're going to make silly arguments against her you can do it for every ADC.

Why pick Graves, many other ADCs have better range.

Why pick Kalista, many other ADCs have steroids.

Why pick Corki, many other ADCs scale better.

Why pick Jinx, many other ADCs have escapes.

And so on.

monissaMar 22, 20151 votes

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How do you miss an ulting Zed? You know exactly where he's landing and if he returns right when he lands, his mark did no damage. It's fine to not like Ashe, but if you're going to make silly arguments against her you can do it for every ADC.

Why pick Graves, many other ADCs have better range.

Why pick Kalista, many other ADCs have steroids.

Why pick Corki, many other ADCs scale better.

Why pick Jinx, many other ADCs have escapes.

And so on.

And yet all of them have damage over ashe.

Truly PridefulMar 22, 20151 votes

Yet Ashe has utility over all of them, which is exactly what she is supposed to be good at. You pick Ashe for utility, not for maximum damage. Her damage isn't even that bad and her range is really nice to a lot of situations. You seem to think damage is the only thing that matters. I don't know why you can't understand that she has different strengths when compared to other ADCs, just like the strengths of say a Graves / Jinx comparison are different. One is slow with good range and damage. The other has a reducible cooldown dash and nice burst, but below average base range.

2000boxesMar 25, 20151 votes

how will the auto of an ashe who builds the standard adc build do less damage than the auto of a corki building the standard corki build even if corki builds tri force tri force will take up the slot of a potential ad item and corki gets sorcerer shoes so there is no way a corki will win an auto attack fight with ashe if both of them are lvl 18 with full build

mvargusMar 25, 20151 votes

You've obviously never played with a good Ashe player who knows how to build her. Ashe can scale surprisingly well and turns into a team fight monster with her perma-slow AA. As long as she has a good melee tank that can keep her from being dived she can eliminate the other teams carries. Sure it takes her 3 seconds instead of 2, but you'd be surprised how well she can do when played properly.

Lord DusteonMar 21, 20153 votes

Because she has a perma slow, mapwide massive stun, and is amazing at kiting + orb walking.

She's a niche utility adc, but she's still there.

TrylobyteMar 21, 20151 votes

Ashe is a great choice if you have a lot of damage threat and don't need her to be all your DPS. In that case her utility really comes through because suddenly nobody can get away from other threats like a top Jax, mid Viktor, or jungle Nunu. She has a lot to offer to a team that might otherwise be short in initiation and if you plan to use Ashe you should build around that. Comes in as a big surprise to enemy teams when your ADC is suddenly just one of three threats they need to take care of.

Der LindwurmMar 22, 20151 votes

She is a bit outdated in that she has no mobility and her kit isn't as completely overloaded as newer champions', but still that long range AoE with slow is really useful in laning and teamfights.

It would be nice if her ult scaled with AD too.

Hasztalan2Mar 22, 20151 votes

Cuz there are blatant idiots who think a ranged creep like AShe can be useful as she "makes up for the lack of dmg with her (non-existent, pathetic and laughable) cc" using it as an excuse everytime tehy go 0-10 which sadly happens in every game.

BluePolarizerMar 22, 20151 votes

Ashe needs a team comp built around her that can both peel for her and use other damage dealers to take advantage of the AOE slow/stun/vision she provides.

A comp like Jax JarvanIV Orianna Ashe Janna would be amazing for her since there's 4 damage threats on the team while there's still good peel.

177A Bleecker StMar 22, 20151 votes

Because her ults invis bugged

arc95Mar 22, 20151 votes

reason i play Ashe...

I have the most experiance playing her and bluntly i have the best stats and win rates with her (compared to other adc's)
most of the "best" adcs cost 6300 ip (and im not paying irl money for champs(broke and in college :/) and considering my last role i play is adc i dont burn all my ip on adc's 3)if played well Ashe can be really effective with her stun and slows even more so if played with a grabbing supp
and i have slaughtered many etc with Ashe, its all about who your good with some people struggle with certain champ styles i.e. people that have a hard time hitting skill shots will probably not do well with him

PubgamerAUMar 22, 20151 votes

Decent range, extremely safe, super strong engage. If she gets a useful passive, I can easily see her becoming FotM. Being able to engage from halfway down the lane is amazing.

Skia AsteriMar 25, 20151 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Ashe/ADC

Ashe mains make her look very good.

StOrmysLIVEMar 25, 20151 votes

As a plat adc that played 80 ashe games last season (49/32), if you were to support me as a bronze player your jaw would be dropping. This would probably be the case if you support anyone thats not at your elo. You don't understand how ashe works, plain and simple. For example, which support would you pair with ashe?

against which enemy team would you use ashe?