So I got Swain for the mystery champ, looking for some help.

Jari·Jul 6, 2015·2 votes·751 views

So with my mystery champion I got Swain, which is fine because he's a good champion with what his kit can bring. I just want to make sure I'm doing certain things right is all.

So to just help get an idea of what I have done before already, I was wondering if anyone here who understands him more than a fresh Swain be able to assist me here. For skills, I've been ranking up E, then W, then E again and getting Q on 4. I don't know if I'm doing that right or not. I've also been maxing E, then W, then Q, which again unsure if that's the correct way or not.

Besides that, I don't know what items are good or not. I was assuming Rod of Ages was good on him? But I'm unsure if I should be getting things like Deathcap, Will of the Ancients, etc.

6 Comments

TeemoJenkinsJul 6, 20151 votes

I get a Tear first, then RoA, then Deathcap or Zhonya's depending on how other lanes are doing.

I level W last as it's mana cost is ouchy

JariJul 6, 20151 votes

I haven't noticed mana problems with swain to be honest. I guess it can also be a case of if your Q is lasting long enough on them normally or not? And ya I always get a Zhonyas. I learned quickly that my ult still goes off in that form and heals me. :D

TeachanJul 7, 20151 votes

I'd recommend starting q and using it to help with last hitting or helping halt an early gank/the level 1 riven who decides to dive you into minions and takes a crap ton of damage. Otherwise its R>E>W>Q. Each rank in W reduces the cd on w by 2 seconds which is a godsend, despite the mana cost going up. Q would just increase the damage and slow, which isn't bad. But assuming you build a little cdr your W is up so frequently.

Item wise item 3027 is good, but I'd recommend picking up either a item 3165 or item 3174 . Regardless of which item you build first between the 3, make sure item 3157 is rushed after your mana item is built. Then honestly after this, build what you feel is needed.

This has always been my favorite part about swain because so many items can work on him. What I suggest is counter building. If they have a strong ap champion build item 3001 , or if you're going super tank bird god item 3065 . Want to shred tanks? item 3151 & item 3116 are viable too due to you having to have some bulk for being in close.

JariJul 7, 20151 votes

So you start with Q? I haven't had any level 1 ganks happen in a long time and the tether is easily broken. Besides that I would go for Chalice if I was having mana problems, and I almost always feel like getting my Zhonyas second is important. And ya I'll counter build enemies, that's the best part about him is he can get pretty tanky building offensively.

TeachanJul 7, 20151 votes

I more or less use it for help with last hitting since it instantly applies the damage when you cast it vs delays with other spells. You could honestly run with either e or q, I've run into too many Hecarim and q makes me laugh.