Help us with our team composition--thanks

elfire2·May 22, 2015·1 votes·743 views

I would appreciate help from the community in this creation, we are mostly silver players and I have thought of this composition very deeply and was wondering if you could me find any mistakes.

Our team composition is fairly simple; aoe teamfight based.

I play our top lane and for the composition I would mainly play rumble, substitutes would be Kennen, Vladimir, hecarim, and jarvan.

Our jungle would mainly play sej (if possible) or amumu. He could sub jarvan, wukong, and panth.

Our mid would mainly play anivia, who could sub ahri, veiger, Annie, or heimerdinger (I know, but he's a good heimer)

Our support would mainly play thresh, Who could sub Leona and Annie

Our ADC is relatively indifferent, he can play graves, Kalista, or jinx we will have his pick last for trading purposes.

The team utilizes amumu's mr shred and has anivia's and rumble's massive aoe damage to combo out, and the cc provided by the support and amumu would make it difficult for them to escape the placed area's affected. This composition relies heavily on positioning and takes advantage of enemies poor positioning (which is great in this our elo!). The teams major concern is dissengage, both for us and against us. Dissengage from Janna ult would make our team composition useless.

I have figured better bans would include Janna and sivir, maybe ahri even though our mid can play ahri, she can simply escape the combo too easily to let go.

I have been encouraging our sup to learn nautilus because his tankiness, cc, and dissengage are vital for this composition. While he may not main this champion he would make a good substitute.

I have also been encouraging our ADC to play sivir. This team lacks dissengage and our support is a fairly bad Janna xD making It difficult for me when figuring out this team.

If you have ideas or have anything to point out please comment below!

7 Comments

KãtãrinãMay 22, 20151 votes

I'd think you'd want a better champion then an anivia mid honestly. Id much rather a annie mid (better burst and damage i feel) and adds more CC in greater forms. (Single target Q stun, aoe w or nuke bear R) If not annie then katarina due to the lock down it shouldn't be hard (if he is remotely good at katarina) to be able 2 clean the enemy up and kat does heavy AOE damage and is an assassin. With the current "all ap" you have going on though it would be easy to destroy your team if they simply got heavy MR (due to mumu passive doesnt shred that significantly i dont believe? I'm not sure its ratios) but they would have to get the ADC and if your ADC falls behind you may have a problem

Wolf QueenMay 22, 20151 votes

Kat would rarely work in competitive 5s. Maybe if your a bronze 5s. But anyone with more knowledge of the game knows how a cc works. And its so much easier to cc and focus a squishy melee in 5s.

KãtãrinãMay 22, 20151 votes

I play competetive ranked 5s teams sometimes, and i usually carry on Katrina. Let alone i carry a lot of solo que games on her as well. sorry you can't see past that. I'm sure if i joined your team right this second and went kat mid most the games id carry. if you are remotely good with kat it isn't that black and white as holding CC and then getting her. I'd love to watch your whole team hold its CC for when i ult while my team CCs your face off and we 5 for 0 your team.

Wolf QueenMay 23, 20151 votes

Sorry didnt realize i was talking to an LCS smurf please teach me more

KãtãrinãMay 23, 20151 votes

Didn't say i was but just saying you being like "X champion would never work" is just ignorant. You feel akt wont work yet you play anivia which is just horrendous in ranked 5s, as someone has stataed. Yeah kat can be bad, if you aren't good with her and shes only good up until people use a lot of cummunication (Example plat+ ranked teams probable) so shes an easy climb till then?

ZeeDrakonMay 22, 20151 votes

okay, noticed a few things, hope it helps: Panth does not fit a wombo combo. his ult just takes too much time to use just for damage purposes. honestly, your midlane championpool is gooddamn awful for teamranked. anivia is not good in AOE comps though she is a decent teamfighter, Veigar and heimer just suck for teamranked, too easily gankeable and their impact is too lackluster, and ahri rather fits a pick/skirmish comp Having your ADC lastpick is 99% of the times the worse decision than lastpicking sololanes. Botlane is the way hardest lane to really counterpick, especially as long as your adc isnt a twitch main or something like that, honestly graves kalista and jinx all have no hard counters that insta-lose the lane.

yea janna is a pain for AOE teamcomps, sivir doesnt do well enough against AOE comps IMO to ban her, her ult is most likely used to engage, and if your CC lands on her she cant escape anyway and her ult isnt too great for disengage in general, same goes for ahri. I'd rather ban counters to your individual picks so you dont fall too far behind (because your teamcomp looks really weak early game) Naut is okay-ish for AOE comps but hes rather a brawler for skirmish comps that is mainly picked as lane bully.

dont play sivir in a AOE combo team. it might look great on paper because of her W and Q but you need BURST for an AOE comp. As a main sivir i can tell you she is focused on critting out individual targets and maybe hitting people in the backline with Q, but she is not a bursty AOE ADC. recommendations would be Graves/Draven/Jinx. (though draven is probably too hard to pick up)

elfire2May 22, 20151 votes

What your saying makes a lot of sense, I got stuck trying to come up with a composition with a short list of champs that we can play. I tried my best to think of something and tried to utilized our best champs. We wouldn't necessarily pick our ADC last but later so we can pick up the major pieces of our composition.

I wanted to ban ahri for that whole pick comp, and she can simply escape our combos very easily. I still standby the ahri ban idea for those reasons (and lack of other knowledgable bans).

I added panth as an option sub if they have champs that our team would have issues with (including kat, ahri, cait). Not necessarily to get his ultimate aoe.

Thanks for commenting!