So, SMITE CAITLYN

Hugh Drectum·Dec 12, 2014·1 votes·1,040 views

This is a very situation dependent idea. You need to know how to use caitlyn, position and understand her passive.

Knowing these things a person should for the most part never need a flash. Net can be used in certain spots combined with smites slow to clear a sticky situation, and cd quicker then flash. But the whole idea here is mid game.
After getting Go into At this point if you have a support running with you and your on the same page advantage city just arrived. Instead of only having 1 utility to their FLASH HEAL, your going to slow proc em with smite, extra damage, and confuse the fk out of them. Utalizing your traps, and bush procs, a duo combo bot would benifit greatly mid to late game with a snowball. Finish off Go into IE, or if you get feed early enough turning you into a OBJECTIVE MONSTER " with your ability to push champions out of lane" ( AS WELL AS ) 39%ArmPen.

I like to get a or spesh with Caitlyn.

Sup recommended:

16 Comments

FiendOfOneDec 12, 20143 votes

You still need flash because multi-person ganks and losing a teamfight are bad.
Objectives are good. I would much rather my ADC use that slot for something much more useful than the jungler item (Which until you hit tier 3 has no combat stats). The extra damage from Chilling Smite is realistically pretty low, and while the slow is nice 1v1, it isn't ultimately that useful in a teamfight, unless you're cleaning up.
Adding on to this a little bit. I could go for this item. Instead, I could spend another 50 gold and get a LW, which is hugely more beneficial on an ADC.

Hugh DrectumDec 12, 20141 votes

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You still need flash because multi-person ganks and losing a teamfight are bad.

Objectives are good. I would much rather my ADC use that slot for something much more useful than the jungler item (Which until you hit tier 3 has no combat stats). The extra damage from Chilling Smite is realistically pretty low, and while the slow is nice 1v1, it isn't ultimately that useful in a teamfight, unless you're cleaning up.

Adding on to this a little bit. I could go for this item. Instead, I could spend another 50 gold and get a LW, which is hugely more beneficial on an ADC.

all points valid. This is why its a very situational build. A person isnt going for Build finish with this strat. Your going for mid game win. Going through and from my understanding of the algorithm used for arm vs pen low lvls it make a huge impact on any of their early game tanks. So rolling with 2 people and smashing objectives with ur mass range.

FiendOfOneDec 12, 20142 votes

Alright, then let's try something else.

Instead of spending 2250 on that item, getting 10 armor pen, 45 AD, 10% CDR, and... nothing else since the rest of the item isn't combat stats, you could spend 1337 to get a brutalizer (WHY?), leaving you with 950 left, grab a pickaxe, and have 10 armor pen, 10% CDR, and 50 AD. This means you are a) more powerful in teamfights, b) better at taking towers, and c) Better at closing the game faster.

EDIT: And well on your way to IE, which is pure win on ANY ADC, especially Caitlyn.

On top of that, you can seriously just buy a BF sword, and for an extra 80 gold, have your Cloak of Agility, giving you 50 AD and 15% crit strike, which is IMMENSELY more useful in combat, especially with Cait's passive. Chilling Smite does 28-164 true damage to champions, and doesn't scale multiplicatively like AS, AD, and crit do. IMO, this is much WORSE for a mid game win, asyour damage will be significantly less and you will be contributing less to teamfights and turrets.

Hugh DrectumDec 12, 20141 votes

{quoted} Alright, then let's try something else.

Instead of spending 2250 on that item, getting 10 armor pen, 45 AD, 10% CDR, and... nothing else since the rest of the item isn't combat stats, you could spend 1337 to get a brutalizer (WHY?), leaving you with 950 left, grab a pickaxe, and have 10 armor pen, 10% CDR, and 50 AD. This means you are a) more powerful in teamfights, b) better at taking towers, and c) Better at closing the game faster.

On top of that, you can seriously just buy a BF sword, and for an extra 80 gold, have your Cloak of Agility, giving you 50 AD and 15% crit strike, which is IMMENSELY more useful in combat, especially with Cait's passive. Chilling Smite does 28-164 true damage to champions, and doesn't scale multiplicatively like AS, AD, and crit do. IMO, this is much WORSE for a mid game win, asyour damage will be significantly less and you will be contributing less to teamfights and turrets.

Point proven. Retired build for now...

FiendOfOneDec 12, 20141 votes

I would like to note, as a jungle main, I am not opposed to laners having smite. However, for the carries specifically (mid and ADC), I feel like their required itemization is far too drastically hit by this, and I would very much think that the FURTHEST they should go is to get the tier 2 for the upgraded smite, and then ignore it from that point in.

It's very expensive for what it offers, but hugely benefits junglers and... not really most others.

Earl EulrichDec 12, 20141 votes

Or you just go jungle Caitlyn and push all three outer turrets away within the 1st twelve minutes of the game.

Hugh DrectumDec 12, 20141 votes

not sure i agree. too cs important

TehNACHODec 12, 20141 votes

Just putting this out there, turrets don't calculate armor pen.

TehNACHODec 12, 20141 votes

And who disliked this, really? Attacking a turret with 80 bonus AD does the same amount of damage as attacking a turret with 80 bonus AD and 35% Armor Pen. It's even in the wiki for christ's sake, this is public knowledge.

Hugh DrectumDec 12, 20141 votes

{quoted} And who disliked this, really? Attacking a turret with 80 bonus AD does the same amount of damage as attacking a turret with 80 bonus AD and 35% Armor Pen. It's even in the wiki for christ's sake, this is public knowledge.

did u even read my reply....only you didn't understand what I said wasn't what you interrupted.

TehNACHODec 12, 20141 votes

Well apparently you learned how to actually reply top posts properly...

If you're going for a mid game victory, between the Last Whisper and Infinity Edge, the stats you need to focus on are AD per gold. To put things into perspective, 40 AD for 2300 gold is drastically less than 80 AD for 3800 gold (Infinity Edge. This is the equivalent of 40 AD for 1900 gold, just to make this obvious for you). In other words, rushing Infinity Edge instead of rushing Last Whisper is better if you want to turn into an "objective monster". On top of this, Infinity Edge's Critical Strike Chance and Critical Passive makes it the superior combat item regardless.

Your post makes no sense revolving around

OR if you get feed early enough turning you into a OBJECTIVE MONSTER ( AS WELL AS ) 39%ArmPen.

Because during the mid game, no one's armor values are high enough for Last Whisper's percentage based penetration to be worth it in terms of fighting, and once again, Infinity Edge is much more gold efficient per AD, making it the better mid game rush item to take down turrets.

Hugh DrectumDec 12, 20141 votes

Well clearly, my bad you couldn't differentiate that's not what i ment... ill re word it

or if you get feed early enough turning you into a OBJECTIVE MONSTER ( AS WELL AS ) 39%ArmPen.

Better? Because your brains inability to fire, made mine misfire in herpderped.

TehNACHODec 12, 20141 votes

Buying Last Whisper doesn't make you any better at taking down objectives, regardless...

Really, might as well finish up the Infinity Edge. More AD per gold, which is what really threatens towers, and Critical Chance+IE passive is far more relevant for fighting anyway.

Hugh DrectumDec 12, 20141 votes

Fiend,

caitlyn really isnt in the midle of team fights...she should be positioned far out with her range, and in a bush is possible. So flash would still prove less usfull imo...situation ally

TehNACHODec 12, 20141 votes

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Hugh DrectumDec 12, 20141 votes

{quoted} Well apparently you learned how to actually reply top posts properly...

If you're going for a mid game victory, between the Last Whisper and Infinity Edge, the stats you need to focus on are AD per gold. To put things into perspective, 40 AD for 2300 gold is drastically less than 80 AD for 3800 gold (Infinity Edge. This is the equivalent of 40 AD for 1900 gold, just to make this obvious for you). In other words, rushing Infinity Edge instead of rushing Last Whisper is better if you want to turn into an "objective monster". On top of this, Infinity Edge's Critical Strike Chance and Critical Passive makes it the superior combat item regardless.

Your post makes no sense revolving around OR if you get feed early enough turning you into a OBJECTIVE MONSTER ( AS WELL AS ) 39%ArmPen.

Because during the mid game, no one's armor values are high enough for Last Whisper's percentage based penetration to be worth it in terms of fighting, and once again, Infinity Edge is much more gold efficient per AD, making it the better mid game rush item to take down turrets.

couldn't care about any point made. You where too busy in your own world and agenda to make a valid point after forcing a fact that wasen't even there. I do agree with things that have been said, and they had been on my mind. Which is why i started this conversation. Unfortunatly u lagged behind, placing a target on ur back and I really don't have the time fr you anymore. GGWP NO RE