You wish to climb up from ELO hell(Bronze)? Pick Malphite only.

Meurtrierr·Jul 11, 2015·2 votes·2,660 views

Mlaphite on NA/bronze got the highest winrate currently. Pick him only if you want to win the majority of your games.

If you want to climb up from ELO hell so hard, pick Malphite top. If top is taken, go jungle or mid. I never tried Malphite support yet since i prefer to pick Nautilus.

As malphite, you are the leader. Players will follow your call if you're smart and good. You can initiate the enemies who constantly clump-up together. Then, you can deal as much AOE damage as possible while your team can clean up the rest. Bait your enemies at the baron. Ask your teamates to hide in the bush. Wait for them to come and Genocide! Take the Baron and finish the game.

If you take Teleport, as soon as you hit level 6, port on a ward hidden in a bush and ult both the ADC and supp and let your own ADC eat.

Do not be afraid to be counter-picked. In bronze it does not matter if you do because you're supposed to be better than them as a player. If not, then you deserve to stay in bronze to learn how to play and to be above all these bronze players.

You got too much AP already? No worries, build AD Malphite. AD malphite is even better against clumped-up enemies. Having too much tanks in the team already should be the only exception for not picking up malphite, but that's also why you need to let your team know that you will tank and initiate.

30 Comments

Commit SudokuJul 11, 20155 votes

o__o bronze logic

MeurtrierrJul 11, 20151 votes

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o__o bronze logic

Yeah, bronze logic. I'm a long winning strict right now so i don't see the point of being so obvious.

disregardableJul 11, 20153 votes

Unfortunately it's not just Bronze logic. I had a plat player tell me that to climb I should play Wukong mid/jg/top/Supp. Like no thanks bro.

EndlessSorcererJul 11, 20152 votes

Wukong mid can be pretty good, depending on the matchup. You do a lot of damage early (which can help you snowball), you have good roams and teamfight initiation after level 6, and many lower tier players don't know how to recognize the decoy and waste abilities on it.

I used it for a few easy wins in my placements, when I was playing against Silver players.

5000000000000000Jul 11, 20152 votes

It's not about the champion being good. Its the logic when people say "play this champion only." No counterpicks, no learning how to ward, no learning objective control, nothing else. Just play this champion.

EndlessSorcererJul 11, 20151 votes

Okay, that's definitely a different matter. I'd typically choose Wukong against squishy, skill-shot dependent mages in the mid lane as something of a counterpick; he doesn't not suit every situation and you definitely don't want to pick him in certain matchups.

There is some logic to maining champions since it allows you to become familiar with their matchups, builds, and mechanics, but you should be able to play several champions in each role competently.

Though, if you main a champion you can become very experienced with them, which means that you don't have to think about what you are doing as much. You know how matchups play out, you know your limits, and you have mechanics down to auto-pilot. This can free you up to focus more on decision-making in game, since your mechanics are automatic, which can be beneficial.

I'd honestly recommend learning 2-3 champions in each role and picking to suit the situation.

BaunjoJul 12, 20151 votes

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It's not about the champion being good. Its the logic when people say "play this champion only." No counterpicks, no learning how to ward, no learning objective control, nothing else. Just play this champion.

jesus christ yes bless this man/woman

DrNovaJul 11, 20153 votes

Nobody listen to this guy. Terribad advice.

BaunjoJul 12, 20151 votes

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Nobody listen to this guy. Terribad advice.

i think youre just terribad. what hes saying makes alot of sense

BaunjoJul 12, 20151 votes

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Nobody listen to this guy. Terribad advice.

lol and youre bronze 5. I havent played in nearly 2 months and im still not in bronze 5

Peel Your ADCJul 11, 20152 votes

I would recommend Shyvana jungle at this point in time.

With 5/21/4 masteries and all attack speed runes (minus armor), she literally shreds through camps at warp speed and puts the enemy junglers not named shyvana behind the moment they're on the wrong side of the map.

Top laner warded too early? Guess you don't want your second buff. Some slow-ass jungler like Kha'zix? Show up in lane and she doesn't even have the decency to clear all of the small monsters in the camp.

Gets sated devourer and botrk and literally poops out magic damage on whatever she touches. Shreds dragon, baron, minion waves, towers, people, hopes, dreams etc. And unlike Yi who does similar, she won't die when sneezed upon.

BaunjoJul 11, 20152 votes

Playing champions like malphite, or nautilus, sejuani, etc requires your team to deal the damage for you. I can land every bola, hook, or 5 man malphite ult pretty consistantly but often times it doesnt matter because my team has no idea how to follow up. In order to win I very rarely pick CC monsters unless I am playing duo que

MeurtrierrJul 11, 20151 votes

It work if you communicate a lot. Also, it's not because your team is bad that your enemy team is always better. Most of timw both, both you and the enemy team are equal, but good communication will always put your own team above them. You must teach each one of your teamates how to play in every games. Finally, you better hope that everyone can speak english. When i ask everyone to get in a bush and the only one that can't read is in the open, he can potentially ruin everything.

Also, do you always ping before you ult, hook or anything of that nature? I always do and they always go forward together when i do. If i forget to ping, they stand there leaving me to die. So you must always, always always ping. Finally, i mentioned that i play nautilus support, but honestly, i want to avoid support as much as possble. Even if you do good all game, support is not what wins the game unless you're a support who can deal damage like Annie. I prefer Velkoz for that.

Honestly, i mostly lose when a noob is muting me or telling me to shut up when i'm trying to help. I'm never toxic tho, never unless you go at me first. To me, the worst type of players are the toxic players, those who blame everyone, but themselves when they're clearly not better than anyone else. Because they think they're so good, they're not gonna listen to advice or decisions as a team and after-all, LOL is a team-based game that require team-works.

BaunjoJul 12, 20151 votes

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It work if you communicate a lot. Also, it's not because your team is bad that your enemy team is always better. Most of timw both, both you and the enemy team are equal, but good communication will always put your own team above them. You must teach each one of your teamates how to play in every games. Finally, you better hope that everyone can speak english. When i ask everyone to get in a bush and the only one that can't read is in the open, he can potentially ruin everything.

Also, do you always ping before you ult, hook or anything of that nature? I always do and they always go forward together when i do. If i forget to ping, they stand there leaving me to die. So you must always, always always ping. Finally, i mentioned that i play nautilus support, but honestly, i want to avoid support as much as possble. Even if you do good all game, support is not what wins the game unless you're a support who can deal damage like Annie. I prefer Velkoz for that.

Honestly, i mostly lose when a noob is muting me or telling me to shut up when i'm trying to help. I'm never toxic tho, never unless you go at me first. To me, the worst type of players are the toxic players, those who blame everyone, but themselves when they're clearly not better than anyone else. Because they think they're so good, they're not gonna listen to advice or decisions as a team and after-all, LOL is a team-based game that require team-works.

I get what youre saying but regardless, you cant play their role for them, and most of the time when i play super tanks thats exactly what i needed to have done

Vayne will carryJul 11, 20151 votes

Nah. Tryn top - and only top - and just never leave top lane. Works all the way up to Diamond.

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gaby1bestJul 11, 20151 votes

That's nice, but why don't you get Teleport? Especially if all you do is split push?

Vayne will carryJul 11, 20151 votes

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That's nice, but why don't you get Teleport? Especially if all you do is split push?

Because ignite is to kill your laner. Who runs Teleport. Because LCS runs Teleport.

Nevermind that most solo queue players don't TP properly/at the right times until mid/upper Diamond.

Even plat players constantly waste their teleports.

Rather duel anyone in the game and never leave top.

gaby1bestJul 11, 20151 votes

Well, you don't lack dmg on Trynda, so Ignite is only to extra-secure, and only helps early game. also, who cares if other players don't TP properly? If you do it right, teleport bot and kill both enemy adc and supp, get 2 kills/assists, get drake and proceed to crap on your enemy top laner.

also, teleport is a lot better for split pushing. anyway, it's your choice.

Vayne will carryJul 11, 20151 votes

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Well, you don't lack dmg on Trynda, so Ignite is only to extra-secure, and only helps early game. also, who cares if other players don't TP properly? If you do it right, teleport bot and kill both enemy adc and supp, get 2 kills/assists, get drake and proceed to crap on your enemy top laner.

also, teleport is a lot better for split pushing. anyway, it's your choice.

And up until Plat you TP bot lane your bot lane backs off you try to 1v2 the supp/adc, the supp has too much peel, you don't get any kills and you wasted your time while your enemy top got to free farm and catch up, losing you any advantage you had.

Never trust your teammates in bronze/silver. If you do, you're going to lose.

MeurtrierrJul 11, 20151 votes

I doubt it. I pick-up tryn and only tryn-top for the provisional games to reach silver or gold. Tryn is good, but your teamates don't always understand that they must not go in a 4v5 that they cannot win without you. You might get a tower, but if you lose team-fights, your enemy will get fat and all your free-farm and towers will be for nothing.

I pick tryn top, but not everytime. I don't pick him often no-more because even when i do, i feel like i always have to baby-sit my team coz they will alway go in 4vs5 for some reason instead of picking up the huge amount of minions bottom near our tower, all about to get denied. Again, he is good, but not the type that can help you win every single games.

The reason i'm not silver after the provisional is because of my poor Internet provider(worst ever and it's expensive). That's also why i don't play lol often in fear that i will get disconnected, but next week, i will get an other provider and that day, i will play LOL a lot more.

Vayne will carryJul 11, 20151 votes

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I doubt it. I pick-up tryn and only tryn-top for the provisional games to reach silver or gold. Tryn is good, but your teamates don't always understand that they must not go in a 4v5 that they cannot win without you. You might get a tower, but if you lose team-fights, your enemy will get fat and all your free-farm and towers will be for nothing.

I pick tryn top, but not everytime. I don't pick him often no-more because even when i do, i feel like i always have to baby-sit my team coz they will alway go in 4vs5 for some reason instead of picking up the huge amount of minions bottom near our tower, all about to get denied. Again, he is good, but not the type that can help you win every single games.

The reason i'm not silver after the provisional is because of my poor Internet provider(worst ever and it's expensive). That's also why i don't play lol often in fear that i will get disconnected, but next week, i will get an other provider and that day, i will play LOL a lot more.

See the problem is if they are going in on 4v5's you're not creating enough pressure top because they aren't sending anyone after you.

MeurtrierrJul 11, 20151 votes

In my experience, it's not better to get a tower+nexus if you can while the enemy will just take out my whole team and push mid to take out the tower, nexus 2 towers and win(It don't happen that way, but that's in a nutchell).

It's bronze so like i said, it might work sometime, but when your whole team is not good, pushing is not gonna help you win. Me, i actually want to win every single game so i don't take no chance. Pushing one lane is only good when the 4 others in your team are good as-well. Your team need to know when to engage, if it's a good idea to engage and most importantly, they need to ward. If they do all of that in the wrong way, pushing one lane is not gonna help you for every single game.

That's also why i think ignite when going top is not good in bronze. Better take Teleport just to be anywhere at anytime unless you are a roamer(I take ignite with malphite because i roam a lot, but i take TP based on the match-up). In bronze, no one defend towers or take the free farm, they let the towers deny all the minions. In bronze, they all clump-up and push mid together only to get initiated and all die at once(this is why you want to be there with them to watch their flanks because none of them will do it).

In the LCS games, ignite is actually good because if you watch a pro game on youtube, you will notice that they don't die often. So ignite is the last thing you can use to turn the whole game around when they don't expect it. So imo, ignite is for Gold and above or for the roamers who are already everywhere. Mid champs can pick ignite because they often roam from MID to go gank.

gaby1bestJul 11, 20151 votes

Or just learn to play the damn game.

P.S. ad Malphite is no longer an acceptable build.

MeurtrierrJul 11, 20151 votes

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Or just learn to play the damn game.

P.S. ad Malphite is no longer an acceptable build.

Bronze is a different meta. You can go Ryze Buttom(ADC spot) and win. I did it yesterday against miss-fortune. My shield proc and she auto-attacks me while i cast magic on her and i own her and everyone else easy that way. The thing is, i only go ryze bot if MID is a range Hybrid like Ezreal, Lucian, tristana...

AD malphite is good because the enemy will clump-up alot. So with your W maxed, you can deal a lot of AOE damage to each one of them. The ADC don't even kite so she will get the AOE as-well.

gaby1bestJul 11, 20151 votes

W splash damage no longer scales with ad.

BeersteinJul 11, 20151 votes

Want to climb out of bronze? Pick any champion in any lane. Buy a sightstone and upgrade your trinket, use that sightstone and trinket religiously. Congrats you're silver. Did you forget to attack people? No problem you're still silver, grats on the whole warding thing.

MeurtrierrJul 11, 20151 votes

You should only do that when your support don't build sightstone, but it's true, Even if they do, most of the time, they don't even drop wards so i agree, buying sightstone everytime because of that can help.

There's also the fact that most bronze players don't use the free ward. They buy it, but for some reason, they never use it.

Vayne will carryJul 12, 20151 votes

I'll end the argument here, but have you thought that your reasoning might be why you're Bronze?

I mean that with as little offense as possible.

If you watch LCS you only see TP top because it works better in organized settings, for splitpushing, dragon control, and turning around fights. In Bronze, nobody wards so you have nothing to TP to.

MeurtrierrJul 13, 20151 votes

I understand why you take it like that, but that's because you don't know me enough. I never was bronze in my life. I'm only bronze because of my Internet provider. Even if i pay monthly like 50$ a month for Bell Canada service, i occasionally get disconnected and most of the time, when i do, i cannot get back in game. That same week, it was in fact, my worst week ever. I got disconnected in every single games, enough to become bronze 3.

Believe me or don't.

For that LCS shit, i don't even watch LCS games. I'm not a fan like that. I watched 1 game and i made a conclusion based on that. But il tell you one thing tho, in my games, the ADC or support always ward early, so i can port-in behind the enemy and ult. If they don't ward, i ask them to do it and they will do it. If the ADC gets fed that way, it's a wrap. Simple as that.

But anyway, what works for you, works for you. All i know is, i win none stop with Malphite in bronze and he currently got the highest win-rate in bronze for a reason.