I believe it is full ap, spirit visage (heal buffs) gp w... by going full ap you get around 800 hp back on his oranges.. add spirit visage and ardent censor (?) it may be the greatest? and i mean burst not continuous .. (If you're gonna try match it dont say scenarios that are impossible in a norm game).
It has to be burst/single target
Hupsis5 votesSoraka's ult when an ally is under 40% health. It heals 525(+82.5% AP). With full ap that's over 1000 healing on potentially all allied champions, including yourself.
The best single target instant "heal" is Lulu's ult. 600(+50% AP) Although you get the most health out of Zilean's ult if you get to use it. 1100(+200% AP)
ChexMex1 votesSoraka's ult when an ally is under 40% health. It heals 525(+82.5% AP). With full ap that's over 1000 healing on potentially all allied champions, including yourself.
The best single target instant "heal" is Lulu's ult. 600(+50% AP) Although you get the most health out of Zilean's ult if you get to use it. 1100(+200% AP)
dude thats op
Hupsis1 votesSure... Remember to buy your morellonomicon against Soraka :P Lulu's ult is not affected by grevious wounds tho.
7ha7guy7772 votesSoraka's ult removes grievous wounds before healing everyone
Hupsis1 votesOh wtf that's op!
:D
ShuffledPancake1 votesSo stil not as good as full ap gp with spirit visage? i only went ap no spirit visage and i matched that heal.
Hupsis2 votesSelf heal < healing allies (ardent cencer doesn't work on self heals)
Gp is also getting a rework in the near future. Possibly when the Bilgewater event hits live.
ShuffledPancake2 votesbtw lulus ult is a bonus hp thing.
Hupsis1 votesTechnically not a heal but basically it is :p
Mathbalnase1 votesIt's the best of both worlds between a heal and a shield.
If the target is at less than full health, they regain health. IF the target is at full, or if the amount of health granted would push them past full, they still gain the full benefit for the duration of the ult (and only drop back to their normal max at the end of the ability).
It is in every conceivable manner at least as good as a heal, and in several ways better.
ShuffledPancake1 votesTrue, but not the best heal (burst single target)
Mathbalnase1 votesI'm pretty sure it is superior to all other competitors in the niche scenarios of a target at (or very near) full health and/or affected by Grievous Wounds.
I do not believe that there is a single absolute best heal in this game. Different champions(' heals) are superior under different conditions. Ignoring those conditions ignores significant portions of those abilities, champions, and the game as a whole.
Angry Monster3 votesVoli can can get over 1000 HP back from passive heal if you build health.
Mundo can 3/5 his health bar back with his ult.
ShuffledPancake2 votesBurst not continuous
Angry Monster1 votesThey are burst, they burst for X seconds. It stops at some point.
Continuous is your health regen stat. You gain X health as long as your alive. It never stops (when max health the health just falls off.)
ShuffledPancake1 votesBut how did you know thats what i meant by burst/continuous? I meant it as Burst - Heal Continuous -over x time
Angry Monster2 votesyou should learn what Continuous means. Continuous does not stop. Hell even the root of the word implies that meaning.
ShuffledPancake1 votesBut i said continuous over x time meaning its continuous over a certain amount of time.. yes its contradictory still possible
Laughing Fish1 votesHe means greatest single target instant heal.
Angry Monster2 votesWell at least we are finally getting to proper wording.
ShuffledPancake1 votesbruh
Mecha MaIphite3 votesSo I guess I'm bursting people when they get caught in my singed fart cloud.
ShuffledPancake1 votesmakes no sense
Angry Monster1 votesThen would you prefer that it is a DoT heal? sounds awkward to me. Though I argue it is one application of the abilities and should be considered.
Burst can be used to mean temp acceleration or increase. Though that is probably a weak argument, Its been a long day.
I am not sure if 0 to X can be used as in singed case. When we are healing we already have a built in heal going on (regen).
Mathbalnase2 votesHoT Heal over Time
Angry Monster1 votesI will buy it
Aeolian Melodies1 votes[{quoted}](name=Kaosu Desu,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=Lpn9E8op,comment-id=00000000000000020001,timestamp=2015-06-30T13:05:39.154+0000)
Then would you prefer that it is a DoT heal? sounds awkward to me. Though I argue it is one application of the abilities and should be considered.
HoT.
Heal Over TIme.
Mathbalnase3 votesIf you sufficiently restrict your judging criteria to the specific scenario under which Oranges excels, then Oranges is the best heal in the game.
If you use different judging criteria, a different ability will be superior.
ShuffledPancake1 votesWhat has this got to do with anything? i already know these things.. nor have i denied that this is the case. i was saying the best single target (yourself or a singular team mate) BURST heal like the summoner heal or sorakas w would be full ap spirit visage gp w. nuff said?
Mathbalnase3 votesIf we place any value on being able to heal a teammate, GP is immediately disqualified. If the target is at full health, GP loses. If the target is likely to die in the next few seconds, GP loses. If the target is under the effects of Grievous Wounds, GP loses.
My point: The analysis is so narrow and contrived as to be worthless.
ShuffledPancake1 votesIts not though, thats why i asked the question i wanted opinions on waht the best burst single target heal was, and i got it. now bugger off little boy.
Mathbalnase2 votesGP heal is not the best heal. See above.
ShuffledPancake1 votesUnder the circumstances we agreed on it is very much so, you havent proving why it isnt under those circumstances so why keep telling me its thei.
Mathbalnase2 votesWho is 'we'? When did they 'agree'?
ShuffledPancake1 voteseveryone here basically accept you. we all gave opinions and ideas all were fine accept for some twat like you, anyway im muting your comments :D Bai felicia
Faith Breaker2 votesActually you are the only one agreeing with yourself
Faith Breaker3 votesI like how the OP aska a question then argues with everyone that answers him.
ShuffledPancake1 votesAh but you have been muted they havent :D, i like arguing it helps me understand more parts of the game and brings more people to the topic, but thanks for the 5+ views
pacifishstick1 votesConsidering circumstances and whether or not it's considered a heal, wouldn't Ekko's ult be the best? Imagine full tank Ekko gets caught out 1v5 and takes 99% of his hp in four seconds before ulting...depending on the build that could be upwards of a four thousand hp instant heal.
ShuffledPancake1 votesIf you're willing to do the maths id be willing to listen, but idk
pacifishstick1 votesI mean I'm probably way off but if he built like six Rylai's it could be a pretty big heal. Let me do some math... 1940 HP at level 18. Six Rylai's at 100 ap and 400 health. 4340 HP with 600 AP. If Ekko takes 4339 damage within four seconds and ults he will heal 30% base plus 3.33% per 100 ap (600 ap = 20%). That means 50% of the 4339 damage will be healed, which is 2169.5 damage healed instantly. Not including runes/masteries/other champion abilities that give hp/elixirs/etc... So yeah I was over-exaggerating but still that's a big heal - imagine full hp runes/full tank masteries/being ulted by full AP Lulu/elixir of ruin...damn.
ShuffledPancake1 votesHm so if a gp has around 1000 ap and spirit visage (fed asf but possible) he has 1000 hp heal + 360 base hp (at lvl 18) + 20% of that would be like around 2000 hp so yeah ekko would be higher. BUT Zileans ult gives 1100 hp back + 200% ap that would mean + spirit visage and full ap (1k) would be way higher. xD
pacifishstick1 votesTrue...I did more math though for a super unlikely situation. So if level 18 full AP Lulu (six deathcaps, full scaling AP runes, all AP masteries, Baron buff, Five Dragon stacks, etc etc...) ults Ekko, that's 600 base HP plus 656 from all of her AP for a bonus 1256 HP on our Ekko from above. Add 211 flat HP from runes/masteries, 250 from Elixir of Ruin, and 12% from runes/masteries, and our Ekko has roughly 6784 HP. Ekko then takes 6783 damage within a time span of four seconds before using his ult. 50% of that damage taken is 3391.5, plus 10% from the Second Wind mastery for a whopping total of just about 3731 HP healed instantly. Still unsure if that's more or less than the Zilean ult. Also it's very possible I did the math in the wrong way.
ShuffledPancake1 votesThough it does fit the criteria a single champ should be able to do it alone, BUT if lulu ekko and zil all joined up XD
pacifishstick1 votesHaha. Oh god...
Budupops1 votes
425+150%
ShuffledPancake1 votesMaybe if you put something more then a few numbers.
Budupops1 votesIf I'm not doing all the work you dirty ape
ShuffledPancake1 votesEnglish.
Anomander1 votes
Heals for about a 1000 and you have 4000+ hp