Hi, I'm Challenger. Open Q&A thread for anyone looking for advice.

turtlecoon·5/10/2015, 5:42:18 PM·32 votes·26,726 views

Hello friends. You may remember me from my Banner of Command thread from several months ago, back when I was gloating about finally lucking into Master tier.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/2lEtQAch-hi-im-master-tier-im-here-2-share-u-secret-trick-to-get-high-elo

Well, I'm in Challenger now, so naturally I have to brag again and make a thread in the short period of time I have before I drop back into Master. :^) I don't stream and never plan to, so no, this isn't one of those educational stream advertisement shitposts. I'll try to answer any League-related questions you guys have to the best of my abilities.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=deadturtle

187 Comments

Snake Town5/10/2015, 9:03:17 PM4 votes

What's the best way to initiate a counter-gank, and how can you predict where the enemy jungler is going to gank?

USG Morta5/10/2015, 6:29:50 PM4 votes

when you are ahead but other lanes aren't, what can you do to get them rolling?

also how do you close games when ahead?

D4RKSL4Y3ER5/10/2015, 9:44:47 PM4 votes

I really like ADC, but I feel like my positioning isn't well... Any advice?

DrNova5/11/2015, 2:32:32 AM4 votes

Whenever I play top lane, I often get stuck in the position of being stuck in top lane. I never know when its ok to leave lane. Especially when both top towers are up, and neither can get a tower unless the other leaves.

So when do you finally decide to give up and go roam and help mid, or do you stay there and make sure to keep up with farm enemy top has,and keep your tower, ect ect.

Basically on a long stalled top I never know if and when I should leave top

xayahs bich5/10/2015, 6:01:00 PM3 votes

How do you effectively trade in lane as an ADC. Every time I go in to poke I end up getting chunked down by the enemy for more than I do to them.

Example: I'm Lucian vs Sivir. Sivir just used her Q and takes a step forward and I Q-Passive-Auto. But somehow she still did more damage to me in that time.

I feel like every time I try to poke the enemy I always come up on the losing end. How do j fix that

fractalfantasies5/10/2015, 7:59:09 PM3 votes

Should I play strong pics ('FoTM') or learn a few champs really well?

khmarican5/11/2015, 12:27:56 AM2 votes

Do you think that, as a jungle main, I should temporarily switch to maining a role with a greater potential to carry until I reach a higher ranking? It seems like the jungle is far more team reliant than any other role save support, as there is less potential to swing a fight around if you're at a disadvantage.

Sukishoo5/10/2015, 8:40:19 PM2 votes

A dead turtle is talking! CALL THE ZOMBIE HOTLINE!

DUDE BRO5/11/2015, 4:54:05 AM1 votes

How does the amount of ragers/trolls in challenger compare to in normals?

Last season I got to gold in ranked pretty quick and then quit ranked due to all the ragers. I find normals much more enjoying, but am wondering if ragers would've become less problematic if I kept climbing the ranks. Still unsure if I should bother with ranked this season.

Thanks!

All Day Tay Tay5/11/2015, 10:13:55 AM1 votes

what do i do if i want to play my best champ (for me its Xerath ) but my teammates are all "that champ sucks/dont go into lane against (whatever lane opponent i will have)". i have other champs but im best at this champ.

Spacesuit Spiff5/11/2015, 4:28:02 PM1 votes

A big part of improving as a player is knowing how to look for opportunities that aren't readily apparent. For example, I've seen Leonas randomly leave bot to invade and kill the low-health enemy jungler. Can you suggest any opportunities that most players don't know how to look for? (I already know most of the "free dragon" situations).

Konidias5/11/2015, 7:38:03 PM1 votes

What are your opinions on Quinn?
What rank did you start at?
Do you think you got lucky along the way to climb to Challenger? What I mean is that do you feel you ever got carried in certain games that allowed you to win series or promos?
Would you say it's easier or harder to win games the higher your ranking? For example, I find it harder to win games at lower ELO due to my team being extremely incompetent. At mid Gold/Plat ELO it feels like my team at least has basic understanding of when to group, when to take objectives, etc.
Do you think a player who is getting consistent S ranks at low Gold ELO would be able to hold his own at diamond or master level if he has a strong team? Or is there some major disparity that would keep him from being viable at that level?

I guess what I'm asking is do you think there is really much skill gap between a player who is better than 60% of all playerbase and a player who is better than 90%? Do you think luck ever plays a big enough factor? (bad teammates consistently, throwing huge leads that you've helped your team get, etc)

I honestly just feel like I don't belong in my ELO and I'm stuck here due to the roll of the dice with my teammates.

tempname84685/11/2015, 9:23:58 PM1 votes

Can you get me out of garbage tier Tin-foil 9? http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/36560912#profile http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/50914933

What am I doing wrong?

tfw -1lp at Bronze IV.

badooga5/11/2015, 9:46:14 PM1 votes

I really don't have the time to play custom games to practice CSing, but I want to get better at farming, especially when I go ADC or most mages in mid lane (but not Karthus , I'm good with him). I'm OK with melee tops and junglers but do you have any tips on farming with ADCs and mages?

IcyPepper5/11/2015, 9:59:38 PM1 votes

Does KDA matter as much as people treat it? Half the time, it's the only statistic people bring up about their games and I'm starting to wonder if it's really not that important in the long run.

Is the game really about getting the most kills?

PubgamerAU5/10/2015, 6:03:28 PM1 votes

Why is Lissandra considered to be so weak in high level play?

How would one "learn to trade" in lane? What's important when trading? How do you judge if a specific action you've taken during a trade was good or bad?

How is it possible for someone who's challenger/master ranked to win every single game below a rank like platinum? I was under the impression there are just "some games you can't win"?

CloaknDagger2225/10/2015, 6:11:14 PM1 votes

I notice in your match history you use a few different junglers that I enjoy or play regularly (Udyr/Skarner/Hec)

How do you determine which jungler to pick? How does this compare to other pros who just main a single jungler and stick with that one?

Please tell me your thought process when deciding what jungler to use and why. Thanks!

Byakuya Kuchiki5/10/2015, 6:14:26 PM1 votes

Why am I stuck in elo hell.

lol jk jk but seriously As a hypercarry such as katarina and zed if i fall behind what should i do?

Hayes5/10/2015, 8:10:56 PM1 votes

When you do well, but you have feeders on your team, how the hell are you supposed to get out of Bronze...i have went from B5 to B4 3 times and each time I get knocked down because I get people 0/11 or 2/15 or Both bot feeding. And this occurs multiple games in a row.

I was 10/2/15 one game and STILL lost because my bot lane went 3/15. Im getting really frustrated, really angry and REALLY toxic.

The fizz void5/11/2015, 1:56:34 AM1 votes

I have a few to ask you about.

1: As a mid lane main I like to play defensive early even on typically aggressive people like fizz, ahri, zed, etc; this mean that when I get beat early (in either/both kills or cs) I usually lose lane (until I can get more items). How can i try to win early game more (I have pretty much learned most of my combo damages [with/without exhaust/ignite]), when they do not let me roam or they are constantly pushing against my tower and I just hope that the jungler comes so we can make a play? Would you suggest this?

2: what can I do to carry games more when I am the only one on my team who is not feeding; I had a 11-4 trynd game a couple days ago, where my bot lane fed a jinx until she was 21-1-? at 25 mins (i could barely 1v1 her with ult, and youmuu's). I split push as best i could and got to inhib towers in all lanes for my team (but this meant no dragon control, or team fight presence [only picks]; was this the right choice?

3: what's your opinion on the people who complain about things like who is op, or why ? players suck; I had a game a couple hours before the previous trynd game mentioned when I was playing him top (versing an irelia), and they were overextending all the time (saying how op I am cause i have like a 70% crit chance [with max rage], and how she cant 1v1 me (when she is standing in creeps too). I responded saying that pretty much everyone in league can be considered op for some reason, and was teaching them how to play against trynd and how to beat my play-style -- they later said to report me because i was playing trynd ("too op"), and that i suck cause I was playing trynd

4: any ways that I can get better at learning who counters who by heart (and not having to look it up); I have some high ranking friends in dota (top 30 for some people), and they say just to pick them and learn to beat counters, your opinions?

DarkFaun Fortes5/11/2015, 2:14:45 AM1 votes

How do you carry a team as support, when your ADC dosent listen and is just bad?

Dunkrius2g5/11/2015, 3:31:25 AM1 votes

I love Darius. He is my true main and I dislike everyone else. ( If I am forced to go ADC I can use Sivir Corki . If I have to JG, I have mumu. If I have to mid, I ALWAYS dodge, I can't mid at all. If I have to support, well I have a fun time.) I have a good amount of matches with him probably around 500-700~ matches.

How do I get to challenger? What are my goals as a top laner? Should I take TP? Sometimes I feel like ignite is VERY strong for Darius but TP is good too, what's ur opinion?_ Current ELO: Plat III_