Help your jungler help you... A quick rant...

NoPaxt·Sep 15, 2015·30 votes·2,845 views

I'm new to the jungle as in I began learning it two days ago. I'm not a master of the jungle, and am not pretending to be. The monster rotation is easy, and covering lanes no bid deal. Knowing when to give away buffs, invade, or push seems common sense. My problem appears to be I can't gank for you, and it's for three simple reasons, three things that you can do to help me help you. (1) Improve your position. (2) Create vision. (3) Be patient. The first is easy to handle, you should know the lay out of the map and your lanes. You know where the gank will need to come from, draw your enemy out, even let him push you and think it's his idea. Give me space to work. The second is easier, ward the zone. If you want a gank, give me vision so I know what I'm walking into and if I even should. Lastly I still have to farm, level, gear up, and watch the entire map. So if I don't come running there is probably a reason. Pinging 27 times helps nobody, and blaming the jungler because you are 0-5 in lane means you did something wrong not your jungler.

thank you, that is all...

38 Comments

RandomoniumSep 15, 201510 votes

Also, it help a ton if you call out where your lane opponent has warded so I don't waste time on a futile gank.

Bonus points if you call out when your lane opponent's flash is down so I know it's an easy gank.

Finally, if you have tp advantage in top lane let me know so I can dive bot and/or start a dragon fight.

Yay for teamwork.

5000000000000000Sep 15, 20155 votes

Teamwork OP. Pls nerf

Tails DollSep 15, 20151 votes

You can press Tab to see if your teammate has Tp though.

RandomoniumSep 15, 20152 votes

Yeah but tab doesn't let you know if the opposing top laner has tp. Best person to track that timer is your top laner. Can't tell you how many times I've snowballed a game off one dragon fight where our top laner had tp and the other guy didn't.

Tails DollSep 15, 20151 votes

Good poin there mate.

SyvenonSep 15, 20151 votes

Admittedly, it is frustrating when I give that information and it's not taken advantage of. I play a lot of top lane and I'll always call out when an opponent burned their flash or ult, even if I died, because when I come back those abilities will probably still be down. But too often it's just ignored because other lanes whined more, even though a gank top would take less time because it would just be so easy.

RandomoniumSep 16, 20151 votes

Agreed. I play lanes as well as jungle and I find that "the squeaky wheel gets the grease." I hold out hope that it improves at higher levels.

StealthWardenSep 15, 20155 votes

NO, never. Its called solo Q for a reason. The other 4 dont matter so i will treat you like discarded garbage and do my own thing. And when it doesnt work out ill blame you.

SunflowerQueerSep 15, 20153 votes

wow how rude.

StealthWardenSep 15, 20151 votes

My deepest apologize for the extra salt, It was meant to be sarcastic...i am just hating on solo q jerks atm.

NoPaxtSep 15, 20151 votes

no apologies necessary, I saw the sarcasm...

TouchpadExpertSep 15, 20155 votes

I usually play support. When I have a good jungler I often offer to deep ward the enemy jungle after a really good gank. And if he is failing at jungling I will pink ward his own jungle so that he knows when the enemy is in his jungle.

DragnamousSep 15, 20157 votes

You know what, I wish more people played like you. There's nothing worse than when the enemy jungler won't stop invading, no one bothers to ward, and then they blame you for not helping their lane more. This happens way more often than it should.

LICENSED HOOKERSep 15, 20152 votes

i can only do that if im on the team thats on red team of the map cause wandering into thier blue is easyer than going to the red :/

Ignis0Sep 15, 20154 votes

What truly matters to me as a jg

1). calling enemy wards 2). FOLLOWING UP ON MY GANKS 3). calling flash

You may be able to tell what annoys me most about my lanners.

LICENSED HOOKERSep 15, 20153 votes

FOLLOWING UP ON MY GANKS

If there ever is a league instructional video on how to work with your teammates, THIS needs to be in it

Blade of WindsSep 18, 20151 votes

{quoted} 2). FOLLOWING UP ON MY GANKS

All of my agree right here.

Kei143Sep 15, 20153 votes

You as a jungle, ping your movement plans. If you are pinging my lane in a straight line, and I see you are near, I'll start my sequence to hold them in place.

If you are taking a detour, let me know. I'll hold of on the engage.

NoPaxtSep 15, 20152 votes

I ping when I'm coming and where I'm entering from!

IDeoxiteSep 15, 20153 votes

This is perfect. I'm a plat jungle main and this is literally my life. People shove way up lane, don't ward, and complain to me when they get ganked....... I tried to gank you but you were pushing so hard the enemy champ was already under his turret :p

NoPaxtSep 15, 20151 votes

Amen!

LICENSED HOOKERSep 15, 20153 votes

Also another thing is, when they call for gank and start csing..

Slamurai JackSep 15, 20152 votes

I don't even play gank oriented junglers anymore because even in Diamond, people are absolute trash at setting up ganks. Better to just farm hard instead of letting them waste my time.

Daedalus871Sep 15, 20152 votes

I'd agree with you, but my jungler never seems to follow up.

Yeah, I let my lane push in, but my jungler never ganks. I do my best to ward (I'm not walking past a minion wave to take free damage.' And I wait. And wait. And the jungler still never comes.

To be fair, when I jungle, my laners make it shitty for ganks too.

magic poleSep 15, 20152 votes

#3 seems to be the biggest problem :/

so many times I'm on my way to a lane, they decide to fight 5 seconds before i get there and then die.

NO GNAKS WTF

TyrenSep 16, 20151 votes

My biggest problem is top asking for a gank while I'm ganking bot so we can get an easy drag. Top always dies at that point.

Faith BreakerSep 16, 20151 votes

You know lately in my games I'm seeing jung go bot but then they go back to jung or bot recalls and no dragon is being taken. So Junglers ganking bot ignoring top "Because Dragon" or either full of shit or need to think of a new excuse to not do their jobs right

TyrenSep 17, 20151 votes

It's very rare that bot will help with dragon. If the enemy mid and jungler has any map awareness they'll just kill me and drag. Although I'm a support main and jungler secondary. Apparently getting that one item asap is more important than getting a quick dragon.

WutsKrakenSep 15, 20151 votes

Since I can't trust ANYONE to properly set up a gank, I don't even play gank-CC heavy junglers anymore. I pick some more damage based junglers who can either gank or farm it out. Like Udyr or Warwick

EcodeathSep 15, 20151 votes

bronze jg tips? dont bother reading these guys

NoPaxtSep 15, 20152 votes

The problem with your statement is that these tips are relevant bronze or not.... Just because you have more game experience than me doesn't mean that I can't help others, just means I don't live in my mother's basement.

EcodeathSep 15, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stark of Wrath,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=G0lLbGat,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2015-09-15T23:16:39.480+0000)

The problem with your statement is that these tips are relevant bronze or not.... Just because you have more game experience than me doesn't mean that I can't help others, just means I don't live in my mother's basement.

is there a problem with living with parents? not my fault no one will give me a job

Too old for thisSep 17, 20151 votes

Sad part is that it probably IS your fault.

chide da junglerSep 16, 20151 votes

I have had ppl die before I have finished my first buff then blame me for not ganking. The best thing you can do as a jungle is play with everyone on mute.

Steel BlossomSep 16, 20151 votes

And then there are junglers who gank at level 3 when you have a wave of 30 minions shoved in under your tower...that is the jungler who will either go in, die, and then blame you, or force you to follow up to a gank that will result in you losing more HP than the enemy laner without forcing anything...

stealthstyle75Sep 16, 20151 votes

This is my own personal gripe when i'm jungling. When the second blue comes up and i'm pinging you to get it, either get your ass over here asap or at least tell me you don't want it. Also, when you're getting it, please use all your spells.

UnickySep 16, 20151 votes

Jungling in bronze has been a horrible experience for me. It's even worse, because jungle is my weakest position and ganking is my weakest attribute. I rarely do well in the jungle, and I usually get flamed because of it. Personally, I can't stand jungling, but I really respect jungle mains for putting up with all the bullshit people put them through. I'm a mid lane main; I almost never asks for ganks, because I feel like it's my responsibility to win lane and I tend to be really unpredictable and hard to work with.

I already do most of this stuff, but I'll make sure to practice the things I didn't already know in mind for future games.

TurquoiseYoshiSep 17, 20151 votes

The worst one is #1. You do not know how many times I've pinged for a gank, just for someone to push their lane into the enemy turret. So I either have to tower dive, or have to abandon the gank after the enemy has already seen me. So either my laner runs away and doesn't help my gank or fights too hard and lets the enemy get away before I got there.