Viktor Q 170% AP scaling (possibly 220%)

Rito Rito Rito R·Mar 27, 2015·2 votes·680 views

170% not 220% idk how to change title

This is VERY conditional, but if you can pull it off, This will usually instantly kill squishies, if not, just put an extra E in there and dead.

You need at least 15% cdr First, Q a minion or neutral monster nearby before fighting, then walk up to someone and AA before your Q and lich bane runs out, but after the cooldown is off (50% from Q + 50% from lich bane) Then, Q again (20% from Q) Then, AA again, (50% from Q)

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OperationDEEZ1Mar 27, 20151 votes

I'd imagine you would have to time it pretty damn well, but still sounds like a cool trick that could easily catch enemies off guard.

Rito Rito Rito RMar 27, 20151 votes

you don't really to time it THAT well, you really just have to time it within around 1 second, since you have .6 seconds leniency with your Q cooldown at 15% CDR, and generally if you're getting CDR it's 20% not 15, so you would have .8 seconds leniency (which doesnt sound like alot, but in a fight, thats a HUGE amount of time)

also, if you don't time it right, all that happens is you have to wait say 0.5 seconds before your Q is up again after your first AA so you still get all the damage out.

El Condor PasaMar 27, 20151 votes

By the time you are able to pull this off in-game, you would have access to more reliable/consistent means of deleting someone e.g. hitting all your abilities as fast as possible + lich/luden.

Viktor doesn't have the greatest of attack speeds. The "cooldown" of the first basic attack will delay the second basic attack which means you are kind of just waddling around for a little while. This downtime is where you probably want to throw in another ability, so it may or may not be much of a problem.
15% CDR is just barely enough to hold your Q's empowered basic attack for a quick followup Q. Q has a cooldown of 3.4 seconds at rank 5 with 15% CDR which leaves just 0.1 seconds to get this combo off since the empowered attack wears off after 3.5 seconds. Timing for this small window may be too distracting/strict and leaves a very small opportunity to act if the enemy reacts fast enough or if the enemy is in an unfavorable position.
The cooldown for lich bane starts after your basic attack connects or if it expires. Lich bane will not be up in time if you are trying to go for that instant burst. You would need to either pause after the first basic attack to wait for lich bane or string in another ability after it goes off cooldown.

It's still a cool combo (I guess) if the enemy really doesn't expect the extra empowered basic attack at the beginning.

Rito Rito Rito RMar 27, 20151 votes

#1 true, but as you said, you're meant to use abilities during the downtime, this is kind of just adding an extra Q without cooldown (minus the shield & 20%) into a fight, which can mean alot. #2 #1 increases that window by (1/your attack speed) seconds, and not being in that window only means you have a short cooldown on ur Q after AAing if you hit too fast, in which case just use other abilities, expiring means you're at your normal power level, so nothing is lost, plus, this is why it is EXTREMELY conditional (getting it in on time is one of the conditions) #3 ok, i didn't know that, i'll edit the title and post