How am I suppsosed to play ranked..?

BlueVestGuy·Mar 14, 2015·1 votes·920 views

Ugh... How can I say this? I feel like whenever I go a role i'm comfortable with, my teamates are bad. When I decide to fill so they can get their better roles, we're all bad, or there's one person who's in my place but just can't carry. I haven't won a single game since the end of my placement matches... I'm not saying that I believe i'm a "god at this game, i'm the best of both teams and i'd carry if my allies weren't feeding 24/7". I do feel, however, that most of the time, their team has a significant advantage skill-wise over ours. I ward a bit, I do what I can to win lane or gank. I might not have the best mechanics or team coordination, but I do believe they should be good enough to do something out of it.

I'd like to know : What am I doing wrong, what should I do to improve my... chances to win? Am I really awfull but blinded by my low-league spirit?...

11 Comments

OhOkYeaMar 14, 20151 votes

if you can't get your role, lock teemo and try to get someone to dodge.

Herdis LeahMar 14, 20151 votes

Get your main role if possible, and take kills to snowball, after you're fed feed the kills to your carries. After you're ahead, keep the lead by helping your team take objectives, either clear communication like "group bot for the outer turret". The global gold will help get an edge. Keep in mind if you go ham and die, you're the most gold on the team, so its up to you not to lose your lead. Hang in there!

BlueVestGuyMar 14, 20151 votes

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Get your main role if possible, and take kills to snowball, after you're fed feed the kills to your carries. After you're ahead, keep the lead by helping your team take objectives, either clear communication like "group bot for the outer turret". The global gold will help get an edge. Keep in mind if you go ham and die, you're the most gold on the team, so its up to you not to lose your lead. Hang in there!

What: -If i'm being countered/doing bad and thus either behind or average? -I try to roam, but that only leads to my lane being pushed a lot, thus losing turret(s)? -The ennemy team pings and my immobile champ can't roam successfully (not being able to damage them since they retreat to turrets/run away)? -The are really bad at last hitting and can't get fed with my ganks? ...

Herdis LeahMar 14, 20151 votes

If you're being countered, farm champions - go for kills yourself. He can't possibly be ganking if he's taking raptors. If you're roaming, do it smart. Force them back, proxy 1 wave to buy time, then roam. If you gank and they run away, ward for your laner or try from another angle - several times I see the jungler and back off, so he tries again in 1 minute through the lane or through a different bush. If the team is just plain bad, well, do what you can. You're only 1 person. You will always lose 20% of your games. Youll always win 20%. Its up to you to change how the other 60% of games.

3tysonMar 14, 20151 votes

Hahahahahah lock teemo xd and make them dodge haahha

no srsly if your having problems winning cause of bad team mates while you are good try and roam and get them kils (not the total noobs cause they wil just suck annyway) but the ones who are doing almost reasonable, cause if they get a lead there game will be easier and they migbt do better

also help the ones that are already doing good they might get a huge lead this way

ccseancc143Mar 14, 20151 votes

If you truly are better than your rank says, it doesn't matter if your enemy counter picks you. You should be able to steamroll.

BlueVestGuyMar 14, 20151 votes

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If you truly are better than your rank says, it doesn't matter if your enemy counter picks you. You should be able to steamroll.

That's not what I say. I say that I feel like my win/lose ratio is not what it should be ; I say that I feel like my ennemies are often better than my allies (or myself) by a lot, etc. Actually, I specified that I didn't believe I "belong to challenger, but i'm stuck in elo hell" .

ccseancc143Mar 14, 20151 votes

Alot of times it not the enemy is better itself but, that the other team is working together better. I found that out the hard way through almost 5 loses in a row. Solo que is either 1 person who literally does everything and carries and wins or the team with better teamwork wins. If you tell your team to work together constantly and ping for jungler to camp your lane it gives your jungler a purpose. Alot low elo junglers dont know how to force a gank so alot of times when i play mid I just tel them to camp my lane. it helps alot if you have an active jungler. Also when you are ahead grouping and taking objectives is really good.

cuddlykitten4Mar 15, 20151 votes

There is no try, do or do not

missouMar 15, 20151 votes

First off, you're working with an incredibly small sample size. Within just 10-20 games, anyone can get super lucky or super unlucky. You need to play more games.

That being said, I don't think your predicament is unusual at all. Your builds aren't very good, you're playing a bunch of champions instead of one that you know very well, and you're dying a lot. You may have gotten unlucky with a few teams - I can't dispute that - but it doesn't look like you're playing at a level deserving of climbing above your current rank.

BlueVestGuyMar 15, 20151 votes

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If you tell your team to work together constantly and ping for jungler to camp your lane it gives your jungler a purpose. Alot low elo junglers dont know how to force a gank so alot of times when i play mid I just tel them to camp my lane. it helps alot if you have an active jungler. Also when you are ahead grouping and taking objectives is really good.

What do you suggest if the jungler is behind compared to the other jungler or keeps getting counterjungled? In the past few games, our junglers didn't gank much, while theirs often would... I'm not sure camping lanes would've helped him, especially since it meant not getting XP or gold until they see the occasion to gank - gank that might not help at all. By force a gank, what do you mean? Like, making a gank without the laner asking?...

Also, do you suggest to, say, group mid and push if someone is fed?

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Your builds aren't very good, you're playing a bunch of champions instead of one that you know very well, and you're dying a lot. You may have gotten unlucky with a few teams - I can't dispute that - but it doesn't look like you're playing at a level deserving of climbing above your current rank.

Yes - I'm still trying to find a champ to main. As an example, I bought swain for ranked, since people said that at low elo, most players didn't know how to deal with him - turns out I don't really know how to play as him either, or at least that I didn't know how to use him at his full potential in the few games of ranked I played as him. I then tried jax, since I like aa champs and he's quite strong while still being tanky (unlike tryndamere, who blows up if he's not ahead or if his ult is down). I didn't do great with him either, so I switched... I also can't always have the role I want, which makes it harder to play exclusively a champ. I must admit that I do give up rather quickly when I have a (few) bad games with a champ, which must not be a good habit.

As for builds, I try to go with what I find on mobafire or on forums. I'm still working on adapting builds depending of the matchup, though that's another thing..

About ranks - I don't expect to climb them at a fast rate. According to you, I'm not ready, and I do aknowledge that I am not doing better than average, that I can't carry most games, etc. What I would expect (and want), however, are semi-equal matchups. I don't mind losing a close game. I dislike playing a game that is extremely one-sided (Well, i'll be honest, I don't mind if we're the winning team. If we're the losing one, though...). That's the main issue... as an example, most of the time, when a jungler comes to my lane, it's a (double) kill for the ennemy and it also is when their jungler comes. Ganking when i'm (almost) dead, tower diving... I don't see their team doing that. If it's only one teamate that is like that, it's not too bad...But if it's most of the team, I can't say that's what i'd call a fair matchup...

Yes, I'm blamming my teamates a lot. I know that I'm not perfect, that I have many things to improve... but again... well, you know where i'm going.