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Malzahar support... crazy or actually viable?

7ha7guy777··1 votes·11,382 views

i recently played a game where i thought i was going mid but realized i was support after locking malz. i switched to exhaust and just went with it. started with item 3303 +pots. rushed item 3027 then built item 3151 item 3116 . early laning was tough because without the mana back from E i ran out pretty fast. my adc was a quinn. we won vs blitz and jinx. we did it again to see if it would work and won again (vs ashe and lee sin). i will admit i wasn't really playing the support role the way i should because i never bought sightstone or wards. it was essentially a kill lane. i'd like to hear other people's on whether or not they think it's a good and which adcs might have synergy with him. pros: high bases, can take tower pretty easily, % hp damage for taking dragon, voidlings can block skillshots, voidlings can tank dragon, long aoe silence, suppression, can clear waves if needed, zoning

cons: slow, no escapes, no hard cc other than ult, might take a few cs while trying to refill mana, can't really peel unless the enemy is spell reliant for damage, can run oom quickly before getting mana items

i'm sure i missed a few pros and cons. i kind of want to see if AD malzahar would work as a support. obviously, my lack of rank and the lack of samples (2 games is a pretty small sample size) are a factor and i would not suggest trying this unless you're duoing with the adc

tl:dr it worked twice. what do you think about it?

10 Comments

InsaneSamurai1 votes

Malz can do pretty much anything :)

7ha7guy7771 votes

i actually outdamaged the somewhat fed malz mid on the other team in the first game. i guess 2 targets are better than 1 for aoe

zane yalgir1 votes

kill lane is a type of bot lane another unsual but good supp is ez with frost queen if you help the adc or the adc helps you kite the q poke gets you fed while forcing the other team out

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1682236188/211846831?tab=overview cait never healed helped me kite or used traps right i did my job but the gg from them was well a bad night so not fun but just thought id put this out there it is legit since ap ez is also a thing

zane yalgir1 votes

[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=BNeP6HEI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-01-01T02:15:34.806+0000)

kill lane is a type of bot lane another unsual but good supp is ez with frost queen if you help the adc or the adc helps you kite the q poke gets you fed while forcing the other team out

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1682236188/211846831?tab=overview cait never healed helped me kite or used traps right i did my job but the gg in pre game from them was well a bad night so not fun but just thought id put this out there it is legit since ap ez is also a thing

zane yalgir1 votes

[{quoted}](name=zane yalgir,realm=NA,application-id=WEuoGbmp,discussion-id=BNeP6HEI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-01-01T02:16:13.019+0000)

can go ap or ad ap is better with tanks cuase of item 3151

maikokk1 votes

malz support is a 1 trick pony. his ult. sure he has a silence, but its rather hard to land with all these mobility creeps infecting bot lane

that said, if you went item 3302 then you could use your e to replenish mana, encouraging your adc to last hit the infected minions, and if they miss no big deal, since the item is bugged and triggers off everything.

Glaceon1 votes

No, let's go the full nine yards. malzahar adc*! (ap build, bottom lane) Bot lane long-distance infection farming means that you can stretch damage even farther than a caitlyn player... And no one wants to go near an infected minion anyway. you will need a support ready to put up with your gank vulnerability, though.

7ha7guy7771 votes

morgana perhaps? if she lands binding, it allows you to land your whole kit easily. binding becomes a stun thanks to malzahar's Q, tormented soil and null zone (the Ws) shred their hp. AD malzahar does work btw (100% bonus Ad scaling on voidlings)

Terraeclipse1 votes

Malz support has one major weakness : Immoble. While this isn't a death sentence with good warding, You mentioned you weren't. If you actually continue to play this, I would go AP/mp regen runes, since he can start an E, then backoff and still do lots of damage with space aids. But you NEED to ward. Esp pre 6, you have NO way to peel for your adc. Rylais would be a good buy to supplement this, so your w turns into a slow to land q into. That would help a good deal, I think. Esp with like an ashe/malz lane. Kite for days. Layer frost queen on top of it, and you should have enough peel afterwards. Maybe this build?

item 3256 item 3092 item 2045 item 3116 item 3023 item 3089

Of course, you should tailor it, maybe building omen or somethin if the enemy is REALLY cheeky. Or banshee's veil.

Duke Anax1 votes

It should work rather well with adc that have good CC and peel of their own, like Jinx To help with your mana issues: simply take a item 3070 first. Both updates can be good, especially when you get another mana item, like item 3027

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