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question about builds....
irelia got a little ahead of me and I couldn't 1v1 her anyone....do you guys think blood thirstier woulda been a better choice instead of last whsiper? they were stacking armor
or infinite edge better? i already had some crit, and more true damage.
how about static/pd?
i wana know what woulda been more effective against irelia specifically.
Nosnide3 votesI personally think you'd be better off not taking feast, butcher or fleet of foot masteries instead getting unyielding, veteran scar's and juggernaut. Yi's ult already gives him enough movement speed tbh, feast is under powered imo and butcher shouldn't be needed unless you aren't good at last hitting minions in which case you should practice last hitting minions. Especially with an attack speed focused champ it should be easy to last hit.
Irelia got a thornmail which just makes it so much harder for attack speed champions as Yi. Idk how you played that game but i woulda just hugged tower and farmed till i got ganks or till lane phase over and would have tried to get fed else where. Youumos and Last Whisper means you will deal more damage to her fast but also you will take that 30% damage, fast. Again, idk how you played but Yi has some cool tricks, his Q can help you escape, and evade an enemy spell/turret shot, also his W can help you not just heal but take a lot less damage from both enemy turrets and from an enemy attack.
Bloodthirster would have been a better choice than last whisperer if she already had that thornmail or you knew thats what she was most likely going for because it woulda gave you good AD which works well with Yi and the LS woulda helped you not lose so much hp from her thornmail. Again Bloodthirster over IE if she had or was getting thornmail because IE woulda just helped you die faster.
Irelia is a bully champ and that was a tough match up for you, no worries. Learn, move on.
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I personally think you'd be better off not taking feast, butcher or fleet of foot masteries instead getting unyielding, veteran scar's and juggernaut. Yi's ult already gives him enough movement speed tbh, feast is under powered imo and butcher shouldn't be needed unless you aren't good at last hitting minions in which case you should practice last hitting minions. Especially with an attack speed focused champ it should be easy to last hit.
Irelia got a thornmail which just makes it so much harder for attack speed champions as Yi. Idk how you played that game but i woulda just hugged tower and farmed till i got ganks or till lane phase over and would have tried to get fed else where. Youumos and Last Whisper means you will deal more damage to her fast but also you will take that 30% damage, fast. Again, idk how you played but Yi has some cool tricks, his Q can help you escape, and evade an enemy spell/turret shot, also his W can help you not just heal but take a lot less damage from both enemy turrets and from an enemy attack.
Bloodthirster would have been a better choice than last whisperer if she already had that thornmail or you knew thats what she was most likely going for because it woulda gave you good AD which works well with Yi and the LS woulda helped you not lose so much hp from her thornmail. Again Bloodthirster over IE if she had or was getting thornmail because IE woulda just helped you die faster.
Irelia is a bully champ and that was a tough match up for you, no worries. Learn, move on.
yes I agree with you, I'll reconsider my masteries and ill go for bloodthister instead. Laning wasn't the problem actually, I could 1v1 her easily all the way from early game since i got her a few times before 6, but she got thornmail and I bought last whisper, she just 1v1'd me which simply surprised me. I thought my lifesteal from blade of the ruined king was enough, but i guess not.
thanks alot
ToughFluffs3 votesPersonally, I wouldn't play Yi top due to the sheer number of off-tank and tank top laners currently in the meta. Yi is still an amazingly strong jungler with devourer. If you can, I'd look up Cowsep on Twitch. He plays a LOT of Yi jungle, and his build is close to what yours is. I use his, and personally I learned a lot from watching him.
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Personally, I wouldn't play Yi top due to the sheer number of off-tank and tank top laners currently in the meta. Yi is still an amazingly strong jungler with devourer. If you can, I'd look up Cowsep on Twitch. He plays a LOT of Yi jungle, and his build is close to what yours is. I use his, and personally I learned a lot from watching him.
yes you're right, I do have a hard time in lane many times, I play him jungle too but top is just too much fun with him :P
aaronconlin1 votesyes you're right, I do have a hard time in lane many times, I play him jungle too but top is just too much fun with him :P
Yi in the mid lane is pretty fun too, you don't have to deal with tanks and you can roam to get kills
Commando Yi1 votesi'd have opted for a randuins + hex drinker to give you a bit more durability over the lw + vamp sceptre
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i'd have opted for a randuins + hex drinker to give you a bit more durability over the lw + vamp sceptre
randuin's woulda been a good choice for sure, but our diana was our only ap and she was getting focused in fights so i didn't bother with that.
Why would you recommend hex drinker? Is it because of their kat or to mitigate thornmail's damage?
only problem was irelia was split pushing and i wanted to be able to go to her lane and 1v1 her, which I couldn't
Commando Yi1 votesranduin's woulda been a good choice for sure, but our diana was our only ap and she was getting focused in fights so i didn't bother with that.
Why would you recommend hex drinker? Is it because of their kat or to mitigate thornmail's damage?
only problem was irelia was split pushing and i wanted to be able to go to her lane and 1v1 her, which I couldn't
you need randuins + ninja tabi to 1v1 irelia, botrk + ghostblade is sufficient to take down her and anyone else on that team - provided you don't get interrupted
qss would have been necessary for skarner but i doubt it would have helped much this game given the state of your mid and adc
hex drinker is anti burst for kat
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you need randuins + ninja tabi to 1v1 irelia, botrk + ghostblade is sufficient to take down her and anyone else on that team - provided you don't get interrupted
If im not getting interrupted, would it be better to get life steal in a 1v1? or is the life steal from blade of the ruined king enough?
is it better to get blood thirster generally after infinite edge? since i'll be doing alot more damage or omens still more efficient?
Commando Yi1 votesIf im not getting interrupted, would it be better to get life steal in a 1v1? or is the life steal from blade of the ruined king enough?
is it better to get blood thirster generally after infinite edge? since i'll be doing alot more damage or omens still more efficient?
for 1v1, a ghost blade, botrk should be enough but you can pile it on with ie and lw if needed - a randuins would still be best since pure glass cannon is too risky, only guy i know who did well with pure glass cannon was cowsep and he's started building more defensive items in s5 - leaning towards maw, scimitar, thornmail, treads/tabi and rarely going for the ie
bt can work as a pseudo defensive item provided you build some armor/mres to make the shield it provides more durable
aaronconlin1 votesIrelia built to counter you with 
and 
. You would have benefited a lot from more life steal and armor penetration. The 
is good for melting health and using your passive and true damage, but 
and 
would have helped to break through her armor and heal back the health lost from . Another thing that would have helped is magic resist.
Also, Yi can benefit a lot from some defensive items, especially if you're behind.
if you're getting locked down
if you're getting killed quickly by magic damage
against AD, also the active is great to use after your Q
against AP, plus it increases your own heal
Build according to what you need
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As a main build, interchange one or two if you need to
Ship 0F Ducks1 votesIrelia built to counter you with
Also, Yi can benefit a lot from some defensive items, especially if you're behind.
Build according to what you need
I still don't know against full tanks that are fed is it better to get last whisper and damage or just more attack speed without going over the limit of course.
aaronconlin1 votesI still don't know against full tanks that are fed is it better to get last whisper and damage or just more attack speed without going over the limit of course.
Well to counter Thornmail and get past their armor you're going to need both. Last Whisper to get past their armor, BotRK to get their health, and enough lifesteal to heal back what you lose from Thornmail, which can be a lot especially on Yi considering you attack fast and have the double attack passive, and usually crit fairly often. Against a full tank I'd probably build
and one other item
BluePolarizer1 votesNever build glass on Yi in general, but especially do not build glass against Irelia. I don't care how fed you are, a Thornmail Irelia will rip through anyone that doesn't have defensive items that include armor and HP in the duration of 1 stun.
With your total gold of 12.8k I would've gotten 
. That wouldn't have let you 1v1 Irelia in an autoattack slapfest to the death, but you would have not died against her and could kill people in teamfights easily. You NEEDED that Randuins.