Lissandra Tips?

Paper Towel·Feb 22, 2015·1 votes·1,393 views

Heyo everyone! So I recently bought , and am having a blast. But I'm having problems with like and , even though I know I should be okay. Any tips?

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Faith BreakerFeb 22, 20153 votes

Hold off on your w until Fizz completes his Playful/Trickster. Use your q to poke and harass at him, try to hit him with the shattered 2nd part of the spell as you farm. If Fizz ults you, ult yourself before the shark chomps you. Otherwise, overlap your ult with your w. If you w first, wait for the root to almost complete before you ult him, if you ult him first, wait a second before you apply w's root, for the best amount of CC. Save your e to either chase and finish the kill or to escape if you can. Beating Fizz is now about dodging his ult, it's how he initiates now like Ahri's "oldish" Charm where it amps dmg done. Psuedo DFG. If you can zonhya or ult yourself to pop his ult you cripple his dmg out put.

You can root J4 in place with your w without stopping your movement animations, you can kite and slow him with your q, you can e yourself out of cataclysm, you can ult j4, e away, ect. I don't see why J4 gives you trouble as Lissandra, every single spell in her kit gives him hell. She has a slow, a root, a build in escape, and her choie of a mini hourglass or stun. Try building into heavier AP items, your only tank items would be Hourglass, and at best a RoA, Abysmal, or GA if the rest of your build is heavy AP. Rabadon, Lindry's, Icebourne Gauntlet are lovely choices for me to pick up on Lissandra. Those sheen procs make so much difference for her dps IMO

exiledFromBadmenFeb 22, 20151 votes

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Hold off on your w until Fizz completes his Playful/Trickster. Use your q to poke and harass at him, try to hit him with the shattered 2nd part of the spell as you farm. If Fizz ults you, ult yourself before the shark chomps you. Otherwise, overlap your ult with your w. If you w first, wait for the root to almost complete before you ult him, if you ult him first, wait a second before you apply w's root, for the best amount of CC. Save your e to either chase and finish the kill or to escape if you can. Beating Fizz is now about dodging his ult, it's how he initiates now like Ahri's "oldish" Charm where it amps dmg done. Psuedo DFG. If you can zonhya or ult yourself to pop his ult you cripple his dmg out put.

You can root J4 in place with your w without stopping your movement animations, you can kite and slow him with your q, you can e yourself out of cataclysm, you can ult j4, e away, ect. I don't see why J4 gives you trouble as Lissandra, every single spell in her kit gives him hell. She has a slow, a root, a build in escape, and her choie of a mini hourglass or stun. Try building into heavier AP items, your only tank items would be Hourglass, and at best a RoA, Abysmal, or GA if the rest of your build is heavy AP. Rabadon, Lindry's, Icebourne Gauntlet are lovely choices for me to pick up on Lissandra. Those sheen procs make so much difference for her dps IMO

Iceborn Gaunlet

Okay, she's an Iceborn, but she has nothing to do with item 3057 .

Faith BreakerFeb 22, 20152 votes

Sheen builds into the Icebourne Gauntlet. It has alot to do with her, because it's very mechanically useful on her. Between the CDs on her moves and with her passive you are able to sustain near consistant Sheen/IB.G. Pros. The Proc of IB.G. is also a part of her kiting and mobility. Which , is everything to deal with how to counter the people the OP talks about. So you made a statement, but you said nothing. Congratulations.

exiledFromBadmenFeb 23, 20151 votes

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Sheen builds into the Icebourne Gauntlet. It has alot to do with her, because it's very mechanically useful on her. Between the CDs on her moves and with her passive you are able to sustain near consistant Sheen/IB.G. Pros. The Proc of IB.G. is also a part of her kiting and mobility. Which , is everything to deal with how to counter the people the OP talks about. So you made a statement, but you said nothing. Congratulations.

So you're playing her as a kite mage? Nice I'll try it :)

Faith BreakerFeb 23, 20151 votes

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So you're playing her as a kite mage? Nice I'll try it :)

Mhm. A big part of playing against and beating a Lissandra is the CD game. Her q has a short but easily recognizable CD, if she spams it too often she burns her mana. Her w and e have slightly longer CD's, when she uses those 2 moves she is "vulnerable" and that's when alot of people try to trade with her or all in. Sheen, and later the Gauntlet, provide her with an extended list of options for both dmg and peel/kite. At first, Sheen gives mana, some AP, and provides you with the beneficial proc of the AA between spell casts. This gives Lissandra a deceptive added source of burst dmg the enemy may not even notice. When you build into the Gauntlet, the proc gives your AA's an AoE dmging slow. Her q slows. Her w roots. Her r stuns. Now, her AA's hurt more, and deal AoE slows. When kiting from the enemy, if you AA between your q's you will never get caught. If you do? Just w, root them, and keep on. Still in trouble? Ok, ok. Just e away. Wtf, are you STILL IN DANGER? Fine. Ult yourself. What's happening, why are you still about to die?

Better pop that hourglass. On the flip side, tossing in the AA between spells creates the opportunity for very careful players to meticulously over lap the durations of her CC, providing a psuedo Ashe-esque perma slow effect. Now, none of this makes Lissanda OVER POWERED. It just creates windows of opportunity for her to out play the big meaty foes she will face top lane. It's really, really fun. Lindry's Torment never meant so much to a champion then it did Lissandra. (Karma, maybe? Maaaybe?)

Good luck ! I hope you enjoy trying it out.

exiledFromBadmenFeb 23, 20151 votes

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Mhm. A big part of playing against and beating a Lissandra is the CD game. Her q has a short but easily recognizable CD, if she spams it too often she burns her mana. Her w and e have slightly longer CD's, when she uses those 2 moves she is "vulnerable" and that's when alot of people try to trade with her or all in. Sheen, and later the Gauntlet, provide her with an extended list of options for both dmg and peel/kite. At first, Sheen gives mana, some AP, and provides you with the beneficial proc of the AA between spell casts. This gives Lissandra a deceptive added source of burst dmg the enemy may not even notice. When you build into the Gauntlet, the proc gives your AA's an AoE dmging slow. Her q slows. Her w roots. Her r stuns. Now, her AA's hurt more, and deal AoE slows. When kiting from the enemy, if you AA between your q's you will never get caught. If you do? Just w, root them, and keep on. Still in trouble? Ok, ok. Just e away. Wtf, are you STILL IN DANGER? Fine. Ult yourself. What's happening, why are you still about to die?

Better pop that hourglass. On the flip side, tossing in the AA between spells creates the opportunity for very careful players to meticulously over lap the durations of her CC, providing a psuedo Ashe-esque perma slow effect. Now, none of this makes Lissanda OVER POWERED. It just creates windows of opportunity for her to out play the big meaty foes she will face top lane. It's really, really fun. Lindry's Torment never meant so much to a champion then it did Lissandra. (Karma, maybe? Maaaybe?)

Good luck ! I hope you enjoy trying it out.

Thank you.

I also said something about tips on another post, I don't even know why.

Faith BreakerFeb 23, 20151 votes

I'm not quite what you mean about that? Are you referring to the recent thread about Lissandra's q being "unavoidable"?

exiledFromBadmenFeb 23, 20151 votes

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I'm not quite what you mean about that? Are you referring to the recent thread about Lissandra's q being "unavoidable"?

No. I said " Use your W before your Q for a successful Q and don't use your self-ult if not needed."

exiledFromBadmenFeb 22, 20151 votes

For tips, press W before Q for a successful Q and don't use self ult if not really needed.