Bronze Veig 1-shotting gold Tibbers??

Porglit·11/23/2019, 5:45:36 AM·2 votes·1,240 views

Currently, pets count as "level 0". This means Tibbers, even a Tibbers summoned by a gold Annie, will always be 1-shot by Veigar's ability, even if he's bronze. Something about this is royally screwed up.

Solution: I propose that pets are counted at least for Veigar purposes to be a level under the caster. If silver Annie cast's Tibbers, he shouldn't be 1-shot by a bronze Veigar, but he can be by a silver one, for instance. Considering the majority of Annie's strength comes from Tibbers, it seems to makes sense.

6 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama11/23/2019, 5:53:59 AM3 votes

Tibbers is broken AF, i see nothing wrong with this niche counter.

Porglit11/23/2019, 7:25:00 PM2 votes

9.23 just patched it. Under "bugfixes" they have "All summons are now properly considered 0-star". I find it bizarre that this means a bronze veig kills a gold Tibbers.

Wasabi Kitty11/23/2019, 6:40:57 AM1 votes

Well if you're running something like ocean/mage/summoners, a bronze Veigar will be 1 shot by a random Brand ult bounce before it gets to do that.

CloudedLogic11/23/2019, 7:30:13 AM1 votes

That is weird because a couple days ago I specifically noticed that a veigar wasn't one shotting malz voidlings when they didn't have any indicators (I think it is the same for minions too)

Sir Inugami11/24/2019, 7:53:52 AM1 votes

Good. At least there's counters to Summoners, because right now they're broken as hell and the only reason they aren't talked about is Olaf.

IMO Summons should NOT be targetable enemies on the board similar to how Zyra and Azir's summons work. When you can get a comp going that just spams summons left and right it becomes a totally one sided victory dance for that player because enemy champions won't ever target your champion - just their endless summons.