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Let's talk about Cloud (3)

Porglit·11/28/2019, 9:29:28 PM·5 votes·1,867 views

One of the interesting mechanics in Set 2 has been Qiyana , who can change their element to match the map. Usually, this has the possibility of profoundly impacting your build:

  1. Mountain gives you the ability to grab an early Mountain (2), where the large shield is more effective early game
  2. Ocean unlocks the pursuit of Ocean (6), impossible to get otherwise
  3. Inferno makes it much easier to get an assassin trio, and makes it so you only need two sunfires to get inferno (9)
  4. Cloud (3) gives you +5% dodge??

What's up with that?? Even if you max out someone's dodge from items, the difference between 75% and 80% dodge isn't worth the hassle to get there. All the other bonuses are strikingly better. Why is it not +10% dodge at least?

11 Comments

Sire Hippington11/29/2019, 1:20:02 AM2 votes

yea, i mean, it still offers similar options like mountain, giveing faster acces to cloud as you don't need a tier 4, and it opens up assasin/blade or assasin/mystik for the 2 cloud instead of hardlocking you into blade/mystik(though thx to yi that usually happens anyway)

But still, it'd be nice to have a 3 mountian bonus(maybw 2000-2500 shield up from then 1500 of 2 mountains), and could 3 could really get 5% more dodge(so 10 more than the 2coud) to make 3 cloud comps a bit more rewarding.

rabirinsu11/29/2019, 8:15:20 PM2 votes

also Cloud Blade comp with qiyana is extremely weak against magic comp, especially now it's ocean mage meta. One level2 brand ult your entire team is dead

Summoner SpeII11/28/2019, 9:46:26 PM1 votes

wait i thought cloud scales from 15% to 20% to 30% on tier 1, 2, 3

RoaringWhisper11/29/2019, 1:40:10 AM1 votes

I'd like the idea of her getting Lightning element on Cloud maps instead. But I'm also a sadist.

skills of luck11/29/2019, 4:28:55 AM1 votes

Ocean(6) is achievable regardless btw, because ocean lux avatar counts as 2.

CloudedLogic11/30/2019, 2:55:45 PM1 votes

Looked it up by the way but Dodge chance is multiplicative. So if you have 80% dodge chance from 4 sources you actually have like 35% dodge chance, and cloud (3) would give a total of like 2% over cloud (2) I think.