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Can Annie not be this season's win condition?

Cycera··2 votes·1,629 views

My thoughts are the title. Like, why would I build anything that doesn't include Annie? And anyone who doesn't get her loses and the people who do just duke it out in the end. She is just waaaaaaaaay too powerful.

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True Garen3 votes

In my matches, Olaf is a bigger threat than Annie.

A lot of the $4 champs tend to be carrys. They're available much sooner than the $5, so it's easier to stack them properly. And they're ALMOST as good as $5 champions. (There's only 10 of each $5 champion in the game. Well, there's only 12 of each $4 champion. The T4s are closer to the T5s than they are to the T3s.)

Ashe, Kha'Zix, Twitch, Yorick - All very strong and contested champions. Brand has some of the highest DPS in the game. (But Brand is more sensitive to item build than Annie.)

Annie is interesting because she has only two traits, yet desired for builds that include neither trait, fitted as a Mage. This successful strategy may have been unintended.

Cycera1 votes

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In my matches, Olaf is a bigger threat than Annie.

A lot of the $4 champs tend to be carrys. They're available much sooner than the $5, so it's easier to stack them properly. And they're ALMOST as good as $5 champions. (There's only 10 of each $5 champion in the game. Well, there's only 12 of each $4 champion. The T4s are closer to the T5s than they are to the T3s.)

Ashe, Kha'Zix, Twitch, Yorick - All very strong and contested champions. Brand has some of the highest DPS in the game. (But Brand is more sensitive to item build than Annie.)

Annie is interesting because she has only two traits, yet desired for builds that include neither trait, fitted as a Mage. This successful strategy may have been unintended.

I agree with the Olaf comment 100%. And yes, the mage Annie team build is also double cancer, I've had the joy of playing against that.

Sire Hippington3 votes

annie?

you play a different tft version than i do apparently...

In my games, it's olaf, malz+yorik with atleast 3 summoner+3light, shadow(mostly kindret) or poison, then there are IE kah unless he runs into the OD hardcounter, and the 4+ 3star comps where it doesn't matter what comp, they just outstat by the raw number of 3stars. Then there is 6mages with the cap item on a decent user(one of the few cases where annie is really relevant) or a fed lvl 2 brand. And the worst of all are infernals, usually with malz for the shadow+summoner splash. And yes, it includes annie, but she's not the main reason it's strong...

Annie isn't bad, but she really doesn't seem like a wincondition to me.

Cycera1 votes

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annie?

you play a different tft version than i do apparently...

In my games, it's olaf, malz+yorik with atleast 3 summoner+3light, shadow(mostly kindret) or poison, then there are IE kah unless he runs into the OD hardcounter, and the 4+ 3star comps where it doesn't matter what comp, they just outstat by the raw number of 3stars. Then there is 6mages with the cap item on a decent user(one of the few cases where annie is really relevant) or a fed lvl 2 brand. And the worst of all are infernals, usually with malz for the shadow+summoner splash. And yes, it includes annie, but she's not the main reason it's strong...

Annie isn't bad, but she really doesn't seem like a wincondition to me.

I agree that Olaf and Summoners in general are really powerful. Sure, a 1 star Annie isn't much of a threat but with other Summoners or if she's 2 star or 3 star and doesn't get killed before ulting, Tibbers just wipes out my entire team even if I killed everyone else and have 4 or 5 people left on the board. I haven't run into the IE Kha yet personally and when it comes to Infernals (the thing I've been trying to make work), it always gets overpowered in my experience.

I'm just frustrated that Tibbers can wipe my whole team singlehandedly. Olaf is just as crazy to play against though, I agree there.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

There is always a counter. I just watched a blademaster/ranger/shadow team decimate misc summoner spam, tibbers lasted about a second, and the rest of the team similar time.

Summoners are being nerfed soon, though. Also light and glacial (aka windmill olaf).

True Garen1 votes

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There is always a counter. I just watched a blademaster/ranger/shadow team decimate misc summoner spam, tibbers lasted about a second, and the rest of the team similar time.

Summoners are being nerfed soon, though. Also light and glacial (aka windmill olaf).

I heard that it was Shadow...

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