RFC Change Is Not Cool

Ztoka·Sep 30, 2019·3 votes·2,409 views

Wild/Sorc to counter yordles.. I really wish rfc still gave ability for attacks to not get dodged. that's all.

14 Comments

BrodkaSep 30, 20192 votes

Agree 100%

DuskDaUmbreonSep 30, 20191 votes

...But there's an item that does that?

It's just not RFC anymore.

PorglitSep 30, 20192 votes

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...But there's an item that does that?

It's just not RFC anymore.

They removed that effect on the new item. It's now just wild (4) bonus that allows you guaranteed hit.

DuskDaUmbreonSep 30, 20191 votes

Did they? Huh.

ZtokaSep 30, 20191 votes

Yup, took the effect off item. Had the materials to build it and remembered it's pretty crappy now. 2x attack range w/o the attacks can't be dodged just makes it useless to build imo. Unless you are doing a graves rfc/shyv rfc or kass rfc. Can only get undodged attacks by building 4 wild which is pretty stinkin lame.. Oh well.. Play 4 sub par champs (less gnar but I almost never see him) to be able to hit yordles..

AtheosisXSep 30, 20191 votes

RFC is definitely not useless now. That said, removing any dodge bypass from all items was truly a dumb move.

ZtokaSep 30, 20191 votes

It definitely took a big hit w/ the attacks can't be dodge effect removed and nothing being added in its place. Like here is an item that was niche before, now we gutted it to make it even more niche.. 2x attack range can be useful for some champs, but most I find it trash. I mean, since the nerf, I have seen a rfc in w/e round carousel it is and it literally doesn't get picked up.. To me, that says something. Still good on some champs but a much smaller group benefits now. Just my opinion though.

TwitchInMyPantsSep 30, 20191 votes

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It definitely took a big hit w/ the attacks can't be dodge effect removed and nothing being added in its place. Like here is an item that was niche before, now we gutted it to make it even more niche.. 2x attack range can be useful for some champs, but most I find it trash. I mean, since the nerf, I have seen a rfc in w/e round carousel it is and it literally doesn't get picked up.. To me, that says something. Still good on some champs but a much smaller group benefits now. Just my opinion though.

If you find it trash you clearly aren't running champs like Rengar or Draven

Hell it'd get used on every Assassin before simply because it hard countered Phantom Dancer. But even then, having ranged crits is a great advantage.

AtheosisXSep 30, 20191 votes

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It definitely took a big hit w/ the attacks can't be dodge effect removed and nothing being added in its place. Like here is an item that was niche before, now we gutted it to make it even more niche.. 2x attack range can be useful for some champs, but most I find it trash. I mean, since the nerf, I have seen a rfc in w/e round carousel it is and it literally doesn't get picked up.. To me, that says something. Still good on some champs but a much smaller group benefits now. Just my opinion though.

RFC is still a very good item on particular champs like assassins and ranged carries. You do understand that "good on some champs" is the target of all items right? They are supposed to be borderline useless if built on the wrong champ.

TwitchInMyPantsSep 30, 20191 votes

Yeah the AS + AD item was supposed to replace RFC's role there but they decided to leave it as an option only for 4 Wild.

Which is weird but its a way of creating value in the Wild Synergy. But I feel that they could've done that without nerfing global options.

ZtokaSep 30, 20192 votes

It's like they thought, wild is crap, no matter what we do. Oh, lets gut RFC, change the no dodge to wild so they are useful. Still a crap comp .. :(

SeverculesOct 3, 20191 votes

I've tried to counter yordles or PD with wild aswell... but its a trash comp that is only there to provide shifters - which is still OP

BrolandoOct 1, 20191 votes

Well technically Sorc and caster oriented comps also counter Yordles because they can't dodge spells so you're not entirely reliant on going Wild to deal with Yordles.

But removing RFC's effect and sticking it on Wild seems like a really weird move to me, I don't think I understand the thought process behind that.

Jesi OniOct 1, 20191 votes

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Well technically Sorc and caster oriented comps also counter Yordles because they can't dodge spells so you're not entirely reliant on going Wild to deal with Yordles.

But removing RFC's effect and sticking it on Wild seems like a really weird move to me, I don't think I understand the thought process behind that.

Because item is op even without that and was core on any carry no matter if melee or ranged?

They could stick it on some trash item that is hard to build instead... Like Runaan. Only Ashe builds it because 'glacial'.