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Silver 4 , 4th place -1 lp

Hamerfal··1 votes·1,636 views

Title says everything... And I have only golds in my game. One of them being a friend that I play with.

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Sinful Succubus1 votes

update?

Kei1431 votes

Stop playing with your friends to mess up your MMR.

Hamerfal1 votes

My mmr should be bigger not smaller. Anyways this is just dumb.

Kei1431 votes

It is bigger, which is why you lose LP at 4th place, cos the game expects you to win and be placed better.

Summoned By Who1 votes

That doesn't make sense top 4 sometimes gives you LP

Kei1431 votes

OP had indicated his MMR by playing with his friend. Which makes the game this he is better than his rank when he doesn't belong there yet. Which is why he'll lose LP at top 4.

Brolando1 votes

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OP had indicated his MMR by playing with his friend. Which makes the game this he is better than his rank when he doesn't belong there yet. Which is why he'll lose LP at top 4.

Wait what? I thought 4th place always gives LP, I never lost LP the couple of times I ended 4th and always gained a small amount of LP from that. How does that work?

Kei1431 votes

When your MMR is higher than your competition within the game, the game assumes you will win at a higher position. so if you don't win to that higher position, you'll lose LP instead.

MMR fluctuations and discrepancies like that typically happen when people play with their friends and their true MMR gets messed up. Maybe the friend was coaching him, maybe they were holding units to help each other or deny other people. Sometimes it's just the MMR averages just get shifted.

Regardless of how they play with their friends, their MMR gets messed up because they played with friends.

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