Maybe Riot will get it right this time?
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I will say I am happy to be getting some fantasy humanoid non-science-fiction champions. But if it's anything like Cho'Gal's duality from HotS Imma permaban on principal.
Shame that a lot of lost Kindred and Quinn/Valor potential will likely be used on this tho.
Kotex19 votesYea it would piss me off if they actually get a Duo champion right this time and leave Kindred and Quinn the way they are
Sexualsaurus30 votesI remember when Riot use to call them "Quinn and Valor" :(
TheMinez31 votesIMO it used to be Quinn and Valor, but now it is just Quinn and Taxi
Sexualsaurus31 votesRest in peace Valor's Champion Icon :(
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/5/58/ValorSquare.png
Ralanr12 votesIt looks like he wants to kill me.
Sexualsaurus9 votesValor is a murderous little guy to be fair. He's quite savage in the new lore.
"Valor perched on her arm, his body rippling with the thrill of the hunt. His claws and beak were red with blood."
Valor Bot14 votesblushes
Only Play Darius11 votesI remember when Valor has his own portrait for when you got a klll with him
Sexualsaurus6 votesYeah also Valor's name popped up instead Quinn's name when you typed in chat while playing as him. Similar to Anivia when she is in egg form her name would pop up as eggnivia.
Valor Bot4 votesNope, this was never a thing, even though I tried to get Riot to make it happen :(
Sexualsaurus2 votesWait it wasn't? My memories are fading :(
Yara011 votesGonna say it once and hopefully only once I am excited for the champion Literally only because im a support main. now allot of people are saying that this might be like Cho'gall from HOTS if that is the case IM GOING TO LOSE MY SHIT cause the last thing i want is to be attached to the person i hate the most.
I want a cool champion not a champion that gives me an extra burden cause i already have about 50 billion as a support.
i still think this will be a one person champion but lets just say I have a very negative attitude towards most things and am preparing for the worst. Either way the champion does look cool and seem to be an interesting concept.
Glaedr2 votesTying an ADC to a support just isn't feasible and I can guarantee it will not happen. Supports need to be able to roam around and help the team while getting vision control and obviously being tied to another person just ruins that. Riot has also said many times that making a character split into multiple units or having 2-in-1 would likely not happen.
Bottom Laner1 votes
Gee, it's not like there's an ADC that is tied to her support or anything
Ariel the Cruel4 votes
I'm just going to ward thaaaack-. . .
GET OVER HERE!
Bottom Laner3 votes uses it to go right back to where she was to ward
Sraeg20139 votesYa forgot the original duality champ.
Ariel the Cruel3 votesHer fans are gone now.
Ionian Vulpix9 votesIt's Hawkman and Hawkgirl. You know, the characters who for some reason exist?
midnight oil248 votesIt has been a... rough breeding season for bird person.
I want them to have a joke along those lines. Rick and mory reference would be great.
Jinxalot7 votesSo it looks like he is the support half and she the adc. He looks like a protector and she looks deadly.
Is this gonna be one champion [6300 IP, I guess] that can shape shift like Elise? Or do I need 12600 IP?
Mira Arya Enthe11 votesKnowing Riot it will be the first 12600 champ.
PureSilvrr2 votesDoes that mean that a champion will cost 1950 rp? Does this mean there might be a 20$ champ?
ModAcademy Kayn7 votesI've said this once, and I'll say this again, Kindred was never meant to be a Duo Champ, thematically, it makes no sense.
Kindred has always been about the difference between accepting your death, or running from it. Lamb is always first in this scenario, as it needs to be decided whether or not they will run or not. If they choose to run, then Lamb let's Wolf chase. You could never have Wolf be in control in terms of being a Duo. If Wolf was the dominating force in Kindred, then every death would be painful. Wolf WANTS to kill, peaceful or not, so if he's first, everyone dies a reluctant death, not an accepted death like Lamb.
Then there is the fact that Kindred, Wolf and Lamb, are polar opposites of each other. While Wolf is rash and impatient, Lamb is calm and patient. While Lamb is patient, she is the first to act, but Wolf is impatient and acts last. Following this idea, despite being the eager one, Wolf will always have to wait for Lamb to give him the go ahead, before he acts.
Wolf acting on his own, or acting first at all, makes no sense. He will always come behind Lamb, as Lamb is the controlling force to him, and his counterbalance. I think that people still remember too much of that popular DhaMa concept, and apply it unfairly to Kindred.
TzQGRUST3912 votesI think peoples main concern about kindred is that lamb completely overshadows wolf. I guess people wanted a much more half and half kit, where wolf would take spotlight more. There is a reason that people call kindred "she" instead of "them"
Thematically lamb is in control mostly, but that isnt what a lot of people were looking for.
Nymzo4 votesWolf acting on his own, or acting first at all, makes no sense. He will always come behind Lamb, as Lamb is the controlling force to him, and his counterbalance. I think that people still remember too much of that popular DhaMa concept, and apply it unfairly to Kindred.
I agree but, I think he deserved more than being a talking zone and empowered auto attack.
OurLestrade6 votesHopefully they're a bit less pretentious than Kindred. They'll be anime porn magnets for sure so that's half the battle lost from the get go, but we'll see.
Big Lincoln19 votesI think that's half the battle won
50000000000000008 votesI think that's the entire battle won
Sraeg20134 votesYou make it sound like a bad thing.
Sahn Uzal5 votesI will add ''Birdness'' to my every day vocabulary, if it was not already there.
Mira Arya Enthe5 votesAlso add Birdemic, Birdirrific and of course always remember Bird is the word.
Lighten4 votesI really hope you're right Mira. I really don't like the Cho'Gall concept much, and it would be wasted when we need a successful duo champ.
Big Lincoln4 votesfuck me I can't even bring myself to be interested in this. I thought it would at least be an actual god-damn phoenix and not an effeminate man
i don't even care anymore
GreenLore35 votesI always thought phoenix was unlikely simply because 
is already a thing.
Mira Arya Enthe22 votesWe have a cryopheonix. Just give her a legendary fire skin.
Penta Ace2 votesWhat is the cho'gal duality u speak of?
Mira Arya Enthe27 votesCho'Gal is a hero from Heroes of the Storm. Riot promised to never make a champion like him or lost vikings.
Imagine if you put Brand inside Nautilus. Nautilus controls the movement and his spells, Brand controls his spells and summoners. Double Naut HP pool. They cannot separate. Brand is immune to CC as he is in Naut. They die together. But now you effectively only have 4 bodies on the map. A duo partners play them together.
That is Cho'gal. Simultaneously overbearing while being shitty for his team most of the time.
Euthenaasia4 votesIn Heroes of the Storm there is a hero named Cho'Gall, a two headed ogre played by two players. Performs as one unit but one player controls melee actions/abilities and movement while the other player controls the other head which is a shadow mage and directs spellcasting. Double HP pool to makeup for being one unit. Somewhat toxic in the right hands.
Penta Ace1 votesThat sounds cool in theory but I HOPE that is not the case for these new champions, i feel like it may be tough to execute in a game of league. Riot has trouble balancing one champ at a time, i can't imagine two in one XD lol
Mira Arya Enthe6 votesOn paper it is great. In practice it is frustrating to play with and against. Though as a support/adc mix it might be better.
Weissritter4 votesFuck that it looks stupid on paper too D: lol
I hope this is a rare double champ release or something and not a two player anything... I would rather have another awk duo like quinn and valor or kindred than that.
I just think the idea of a two player champ is silly.
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesThis looks really cool. Can't say that Kindred was meant to be a true duality champ, and I never knew what Quinn was like pre-rework.
I'm also glad we can get some more champs that are more in the fantasy genre than sci-fi, Cyborgs are cool and all, but they are a little harder to slip into League's looks without jumping some hoops story-wise.
Sexualsaurus2 votesQuinn and Valor use to be a duality champ, now it's just Quinn :(
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesHuh, this looks really cool. Any idea why they were reworked?
Sexualsaurus1 votesThey changed her ult to give her a more roaming focused play style, her old ult would make her go into sucidical situations and she use to have a blind that worked like teemo's.
She benifitted from the rework quite a bit but it's shame that we lost part of the valor element in the process.
Kingnewgameplus4 votesPlus being valor was just fun as hell. It technically wasn't good for most teamfight scenario's but running down mages as a human sized falcon gouging their eyes out was fun man.
Sexualsaurus2 votesThe fear in an adc's eyes when they saw an eagle flying at Mach ten towards them only to maul them alive will always be remembered in my heart :(
Valor Bot2 votesAccording to Riot, having a ranged DPS who can turn into a melee DPS leads to some unhealthy game situations.
