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Sahn Uzal75 votes

So is Kayn strictly-wouldn't-touch-a-woman-with-a-ten-foot-pole gay

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7oX5kN6pd8w/WWQJK_LHtpI/AAAAAAAAoyg/BirrQ0yzWMkuyhJ8aZeC1TFpQyGAM9RqwCLcBGAs/s640/1b7264e3d8576da9.jpg

Does that scythe count as a ten foot pole?

SEKAI40 votes

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Does that scythe count as a ten foot pole?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SO18eVlFrw8/maxresdefault.jpg

Maybe that's also why he was staying inside of Sion and then jump to Darius with wide open arms.

Wolfeur12 votes

But that's Rhaast, not Kayn

Malicious Metal25 votes

Good point.

unzips

Sharjo11 votes

Another ship for the collection!

Mine's quite a small collection though. Need more ships.

Sahn Uzal16 votes

''All I need is a good ship, and a bad crew...''

abdollah562739 votes

Darius is also very conveniently positioned

Samura Yukisuna42 votes

If you consider his lore, he probably doesnt understand our definition of "love". What he feels is probably simple admiration or even idolization for Zed. For all we know, he might not even comprehend the concept of sex.

Jet Sett44 votes

He sees himself as a tool, so it's unlikely he's ever considered it. Unless he imagines himself as THAT kind of tool

http://imgur.com/ZUOqEgj

Velzard of Koz28 votes

So we know where the last Darkin is sealed. The Darkin Dildo.

IPromiseTomorrow11 votes

He goes Inside Sion. To kill

He has a scythe to cut off heads.

He's very confused about the concept of "sexual intercourse.

Fasmodey35 votes

I wouldn't take it serious since Daniel does not work on Narrative (even though he is designer of Kayn, I would want an answer about Story from a Narrative Rioter) plus it feels like a sarcastic answer, and, Zed and Kayn are 2 of the least champions I would want as gay. Or straight. Or bi.

Romance would damage their story and add nothing positive IMO. Kayn is evil as shit and male version of Syndra power hungry wise, he wants become more and more powerful and would do anything to reach the point he imagines, even killing Zed.

Zed is complicated as fuck, probably one of the most. He has huge plans and goals which make him super busy. I don't think he even faps lmao. He wouldn't think about any relationship, as he would think it would affect his work, and would see as a weakness.

Zed or Kayn having a relationship is like Singed having a girlfriend. (I find Zed attractive btw, and my main AD assassin also having fun with him the most. I started to find Kayn atttactive too, I dont know what changed).

There are a really really few champions I can imagine as gay anyway. Kayn and Zed are not even close.

Lady Faceless15 votes

I kinda agree with you, I don't think the answer was suppose to be taken serious. Especially since childhoold crush usually don't weight that much.

However, also villains can benefits from well-written romances. For example, I'm actually incredible unhappy that Jhin, which has been stated that he is somewhere in the aro-ace-spectrum, is a fucking psychopath. If this is the only LGBT context we get, I would honest prefer to get none then. Love and romance isn't something that only heroes can a achive. People are complicated, they can love someone and still being an awful person.

Also, I really hope Riot has the tact to do something more than "she is just power hungry" trope with Syndra, to be honest. I mean, Kayn is another great example who little potential this trope actually has. Honest, he is probably one of the most boring champion we got in the last few years. We probably need such champions as well, but he is still boring as hell.

And also everyone can have their personal headcanons. Zed, at least for me, is clearly bi.

Fasmodey8 votes

Oh, not saying they cant like someone, have dirty dreams and sexual attraction. They can. And they high likely do, as about 99% of humans have sexual attraction to at least one gender.

What I am trying to say is, they would stop themselves. They think diffrrent than most of people. They would see sexuality as weakness and probably prefer masturbating to having a relationship.

And sexuality would add nothing at all to their story. Should it add something? I dont think so. But I wouldn't like to hear Kayn having a boyfriend or crush on a man when his story says almost nothing. First develop their story, then clarify sexuality. That's what I would like to read.

Btw It is a moment of time to have a gay champion. Jaredan says It is sooner than some predict. So asexuality is not the only LGBT think LoL can see.

Jorencice9 votes

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Oh, not saying they cant like someone, have dirty dreams and sexual attraction. They can. And they high likely do, as about 99% of humans have sexual attraction to at least one gender.

What I am trying to say is, they would stop themselves. They think diffrrent than most of people. They would see sexuality as weakness and probably prefer masturbating to having a relationship.

And sexuality would add nothing at all to their story. Should it add something? I dont think so. But I wouldn't like to hear Kayn having a boyfriend or crush on a man when his story says almost nothing. First develop their story, then clarify sexuality. That's what I would like to read.

Btw It is a moment of time to have a gay champion. Jaredan says It is sooner than some predict. So asexuality is not the only LGBT think LoL can see.

One thing I've never understood is the lbgts... obsession with sexuality.

It's like the only thing they think of.

I've legit heard stuff like "well yea I've heard it's a good movie but how many lbgt were in it"

I've even watched a couple of lbgt movies just to see what they thought good movies were and I swear every single one of them might as well been pornos (I'm not saying all of them are pornos that's simply been my experience)

Fasmodey26 votes

Ugh? Say that to straight men of Story, Art & Sound. They're arguing on Dawnbringer Riven's hips for 2 threads.

I would like to see you on these threads.

I mean, sexuality is not obsessed by only LGBT people. I can easily say I have met thristy and pervert straight men a lot, and one of them was my roommate. One of the most disgusting personality owner I have ever seen. He was homophobic and you know what? He was talking about girls he fucks and fucked in phone with his friend for ONE FUCKING HOUR, and about how bitch they're. Though he still would like to see death of gays and was glad with Orlando Explosion because they're disgusting.

Btw only LGBT related movie I have watched is Brokeback Mountain. And I can say I was bored a bit with watching it. I was like, when is it gonna finish?

Shinjusuke4 votes

I think the point that the guy failed to make is that you're like the vegans of sexuality:

You never shut the fuck up about being LGBT and like 90% of your entire personality and identity, at least as shown through conversation, tends to (for the majority of people I meet) be about LGBT shit.

Like, okay, great, that's part of who you are. It's important, and it's part of social progress to get people to accept the (REASONABLE) parts of that spectrum. Totally agree acceptance of sexuality is important for societal progress (I'm part of a few deviant camps myself).

But my fucking god.

Shut up. Not EVERYTHING is about LGBT. It's the same kind of annoying as having that vegan friend who thinks they need to say "I'm vegan" every 2 fucking seconds.

Nothing is EVER allowed to exist without some LGBT people trying to make it about them. It's stupid and pathetic.


That's the point I believe the guy was trying to get at. It's just annoying, dude/dudette/apache helicopter. WAY too many from the LGBT community have no real identity and latch onto their LGBT traits and decide "THIS ENTIRELY DEFINES WHO I AM AS A PERSON" and it gets really, REALLY old.

Sexy Jack Rabbit9 votes

Funnily enough Sexuality is a actually a huge determination on your life. Makes sense for anyone to obsess over it in my opinion. Surprisingly it leads to who you end up in relationships with, which is actually something that impacts your life. Like. A LOT.

Mine, My partners, my mothers, my fathers, my best friends, all of our lives are very much determined by our sexuality as the relationships you form with other people, especially the romantic ones have major impacts on your life.

It's funny that you say that nothing is ever allowed to exist without LGBT obsessing over it unless it legitimately holds ground as being LGBT.

I don't know WHERE or WHO you talk to but I've never seen that happen IRL... quite literally ever? Sounds like an extreme hyperbole.

And even if it were true, it's not like Heterosexuals haven't done that either. Hunger Games was a horrific book, but it was ironically turned into a love story.

It's actually incredibly hard to find ANY Kind of media without some sort of Heterosexual relationship. So I don't know why that shouldn't be the case for LGBT at least sometimes? Seems pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

On top of it all it just sounds like you've experienced a few extreme cases, and then just driven your perspective from there. Oddly enough the internet isn't real life and people act differently on the internet.

Also when was the last time IN REAL LIFE someone approached you to say "I'm a vegan".

Lady Faceless10 votes

Straight people get their representation. We don't.

You don't know the feeling being fifteen and unable read the most books, 'cause the females character only get reduce to being a love interests? Getting frustated, 'cause every promising book has the same problem? Females always being a dimsel in distress? This has been long before I even was aware I'm aro ace.

You don't know the feeling getting reduce of just being pretty. Having to hear, how I'm selfish, since I won't spread my legs and share my gen materials. Feeling guilty, 'cause you have constantly the feeling you are manipulting people, even if you always try to make clear you don't have any interest in any kind of relationship.

The amount of time my sister is trying me to hook up, since I never had any fun.

People, who are comfortable with this kind of system, never have any idea how uncomfortable it is for other. They don't care anyway.

But we are the bad people for asking for representation.

Fasmodey3 votes

Btw, couldn't reply on your above comment. So I would like to say in there if It is not a problem.

A psycopath may have higher chance to be asexual but It doesn't mean every asexual is psycopath/every psycopath is asexual.

It has similarity to this. A gay man may have higher chance to be feminine but It doesn't mean every feminine man is gay/every gay man is feminine.

You're beautiful with what you're and I kinda find asexual people cool. And I would never assume asexual people are psycopath. I actually hear it in here for the first time. Is that really a thing?

Lady Faceless4 votes

Asexual people are like other people, we are nothing special.

We aren't seen as psychopath, but more as the classic feelless robots. Or being prude. Or being traumatize. You get the gist.

Luckily, I don't face many discrimination. But it does hurt if your own mother does stupid jokes how tragic it is since I'm so pretty and how this things going to waste. Or implying that every male friend has a crush on me, 'cause you know, females and males can't be only friend. And I have a lot of male friends.

My sister and I are basically fire and ice. I know she means well, but I really don't need any of her advice. If I want one, I will ask her.

However, there are asexual people who have faced by far worse discrimination. There are enough people who think everyone is like them and all their feeling are universal.

Fasmodey1 votes

Asexual people are like other people, we are nothing special.

It is more like I see asexuals as tough people, when I say tough, they're almost impossible to seduce. And being weakness against the gender you're attracted a bit pitty. You can lost your everything because of it, which asexuals have harder chance to live that.

Also I have wished being asexual for a lot times, for reason of I thought my life would be easier. I could hide myself (I do it pretty well since I'm not stereotypically feminine and almost everyone assumes I'm straight but I could be even better on that because sometimes I may give hint to people with my attraction on men). And It actually would be because in there people see asexuality something that can be toleranced much more than homosexuality.

Lastly, most characters I have interest in league have asexuality. Xerath, Lissandra, Vel'Koz, Orianna, Viktor, Aurelion Sol etc. It makes them feel more powerful.

It is more like a fantasy and having an easier life thing you know... Not directly saying every asexual people is special af and should be treated as gods and goddesses.

However, there are asexual people who have faced by far worse discrimination. There are enough people who think everyone is like them and all their feeling are universal.

That's why homophobia exists. Something unnatural, something that does not exist in nature.

LordGoopy7 votes

You're beating down on you too much, as for the "Homosexuality doesn't exist in nature" comment that's been proven false in over 1500 non-human species, so saying it's not natural it's just false and in a similar vein of denying evolution.

As for the otherworldly aspect of asexuality come from the continuous beat down of sex by a lot of cultural/religious aspects. But there's also the other side that hounds you for not having sex so it might just be that humanity is stupid.

Fasmodey3 votes

Damn, I don't know what did I say wrong but that's something I know for a long time. :P

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/r1hVHlK3-xayah-and-rakan-and-representation?comment=000000000000000100010000

Maybe you thought I was saying homosexuality is unnatural? I meant homophobia. Homosexuality of course exists, at least bisexuality. People that deny it just pure ignorant bigots, no question.

LordGoopy4 votes

Ah fuck my reading comprehension went to shit again, my bad

Fasmodey4 votes

It happens.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

MuffledGarbage3 votes

uhh... what books have you been seeing?

Romance novels?

Twilight?

Super Mario Bros. comic books? Regardless, they've been poorly written and are obscure Besides there have been so few books written about saving a "damsel in distress" in recent years(1-4 is a fair number of years) that it's degrading and an insult to anyone reading by calling them stupid enough to believe such a lie.

Don't force the MAJORITY to change for the MINORITY... that's obsurd just get the majority to TOLERATE the minority Tolerance means that they don't care about your existence anymore in a negative light while Acceptance means that no matter WHAT you do(slander, badmouth, assault, etc.) that the majority will give you praise.

From your statement, you don't want tolerance, you want acceptance. You want to be above everyone else...

It is a fact that the reason people _ARE _LGBT is because of biology

Not being straight is a form of population control. There has been evidence in the wild of Bears, dogs, cats, monkeys, and even dolphins that were gay or lesbian. Scientists had watched groups of the animals and waited to see them mate.

When the Scientists found two males or two females of the same species having coitus(or attempting to, they were able to conclude that it is a genetic, biological fact that a person who is Gay, Lesbian, Transsexual are a part of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetic_theories_of_homosexuality

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation

Two links that have a chance of having swayed your thoughts on the matter.

What does all of THAT have to do with what I said?

There has been no scientific findings of animals that refuse to mate, even once, in thier entire lives which prooves your "aro ace" to be a preference, or you have no genitalia.

which is nearly impossible to live past the fetus stage of life with nothing to urinate from.

And in turn that would also make you an even SMALLER minority... making you part of the 0.0000000000001% of the population of the earth. Feel Special Yet?

Mathmatically speaking 0.0000000000001 = 0 which makes you, quite mathemagically, N-O-T M-A-T-T-E-R at least... that's if you want to stay a self-made minority.

If you want to get rid of the whole "majority/ minority" the best, fastest, and easiest way to do that would be to make everyone on the same playing field.

Saying "white people, black people, mexican people" and not having a poll that YOU(or a group you are affiliated with) sent out to a group of people, is misleading.

Unlike skin color, sexuality can be explored. I won't deny that.

But until I see some solid consistant evidence that animals(not humans though as testing could be biased) biologically will decide NOT to mate when paired with another animal of the same species and opposite gender AND the animal is not tampered with in any way, shape, or form in addition to not being acted upon by a force that isn't the animals own mind...

Then I will start to believe in the "Aro/ ace" fantasy.

LordGoopy4 votes

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Asexuality wouldn't be taking in mind in nature cause most scientists take animals that don't pursue sex as non-coital simply as that. Yes, the goal of life is reproduction but there's no point in having thousand of infants if only a hundred will survive maybe to adulthood, therefore the need of non-offspring-producing animals to raise the excess of offspring which include homosexual/asexual behaviors, which extends to humans 'cause to contrary belief humans are still animals.

Which by following your 'not in nature argument' then Transgenderism wouldn't exist either cause it's been only been observed in humans, who are able the only animals able to communicate a clear discomfort between their sex and gender (dysphoria).

Placentas13 votes

Lol, this is so ignorant. Of course LGBTQ talk about LGBTQ issues. It's the only way to solve the issues. When you're a minority you want to see representation of yourself in the media. It's the same for blacks, latinos, asians, etc.

"See what they thought good movies were" - again smh, such ignorance. You literally just implied all LGBTQ even watch LGBTQ movies and that they are all the same and that all LGBTQ like the same media. And did you perhaps stop and think about how big of a hill sex can be when you're LGBTQ? They don't teach gay or lesbian sex in sex education. Then the fact it can be even harder to find someone to even have sex with. Sex is a big part of growing up for most people, so why wouldn't it be for LGBTQ?

Meanwhile look at HBO, more than half those shows can be considered "pornos" and it's mostly straight sex.

Grow up dude.

Jorencice4 votes

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Lol, this is so ignorant. Of course LGBTQ talk about LGBTQ issues. It's the only way to solve the issues. When you're a minority you want to see representation of yourself in the media. It's the same for blacks, latinos, asians, etc.

"See what they thought good movies were" - again smh, such ignorance. You literally just implied all LGBTQ even watch LGBTQ movies and that they are all the same and that all LGBTQ like the same media. And did you perhaps stop and think about how big of a hill sex can be when you're LGBTQ? They don't teach gay or lesbian sex in sex education. Then the fact it can be even harder to find someone to even have sex with. Sex is a big part of growing up for most people, so why wouldn't it be for LGBTQ?

Meanwhile look at HBO, more than half those shows can be considered "pornos" and it's mostly straight sex.

Grow up dude.

My sex education involved teaching me how to not get stis and how to put on condoms.

Pretty sure that's universal and has nothing to do whether your gay or not....

Also I didn't have sex till 18. Didn't really bother me and I don't count it as one of my "big" moments growing up.

Maybe because I don't think sex is as important as lbgt people do? Checkmate.

Placentas13 votes

Sorry your school didn't provide a proper sex education class. I'm not surprised, many schools and districts do not. So it is not universal. A proper sex education class shows how to penetrate a vagina with a penis. It's not the same as penetrating an anus with a penis. There's different processes that are involved.

So no, it's not "universal".

Re-read what you are writing. You are using your experience as a standard for everybody elses experience. Because YOU didn't have sex until 18, and wasn't a big deal to YOU, you can't see why it would be to someone else. YOU might not find sex important, but many many other people do, especially when it's so prominently displayed in so many aspects of our modern society.

Your experience isn't the standard for straight people. If anything, it seems more out of the norm. Like sorry you couldn't get laid in high school? lol

So no, you did not "checkmate" this discussion, although I am done with it.

Arakadia5 votes

I don't think saying all of the LGBT community falls under that category is any more fair than saying all feminists are radical and extreme. Just because you see some portion of a group doing something doesn't mean they all do.

Jorencice1 votes

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I don't think saying all of the LGBT community falls under that category is any more fair than saying all feminists are radical and extreme. Just because you see some portion of a group doing something doesn't mean they all do.

? Well of course not.

When I say people don't eat other people it doesn't mean I meant 100%.

Nothing in life deals with absolutes.

Even hard cold scientific facts can have anomolys.

Plus I'm aware my anecdotal evidence means nothing in the big picture.

It's just a vast majority of lbgts I've meet have went something like this.

Me: hi

Other person: I like men (or women)

Me: ? Umm good for you?

Like I've found out sexual orientation before names before. And it's always in this smug YEA I DARE YOU TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. I'm loud and proud attitude.

It's 2017 no one except crazy bible thumpers give a shit about someone being gay.

He'll when I graduated back in 05 we had openly gay people that everyone liked and I lived in the fucking bible belt.

Lgbt has won. It's normal now and has been for easily a decade or more. You guys can calm the fuck down.

Arakadia5 votes

Lgbt has won. It's normal now and has been for easily a decade or more. You guys can calm the fuck down.

Is that why people actively try to take away things like same sex marriage? And why some people lose their shit if someone same sex asks them out?

Its much better now, but not complete. And LGBT people talking about LGBT stuff sticks out to you more than the hell lot of straight stuff people talk about. Straight people talk about straight stuff a shit ton too, cause -gasp- thats natural.

Techfusion712 votes

I'm pretty sure Jhin sexually identifies as the number 4

MuffledGarbage2 votes

The Taric X Ezreal dream has been alive for a while m8.

Don't pretend like LGBT has no representation in league...

Just keep in mind that the LGBT community is NOT a majority... and in America, the majority has made the rules.

Fasmodey12 votes

Are you kidding? Taric and Ezreal is denied by Riot for centuries, are you living a in cave?

It is just stereotyped community meme. They don't even know each other in lore.

Oh you say that? Majority made the rules? Aww, cute...

Then is that why intelligent, good looking, healthy, rare, rich af people represented in Hollywood and not the majority? Do you really think representation gives that much a damn about majority? Majority never have been a case for representation, especially Hollywood.

And Hollywood has a really high LGBT percentage compare to outside of itself. I don't think gays are more succesful than straight either (compare to their numbers) , but it is more like most of LGBT is hiding, since rich people have no problem that poor people do.

Sraeg20134 votes

Also, I really hope Riot has the tact to do something more than "she is just power hungry" trope with Syndra, to be honest.

I hope they do, because given other lore works into consideration, I'm leaning more on the "don't fucking touch her" side right now.

Lady Faceless4 votes

This is basically the opinion from the Syndra Main Discord Server.

Don't touch our sovereign, we don't trust you guys to handle anything right anyway.

But considere the Mount Targon Rework and Vayne lore update I don't trust Riot anymore.

Sraeg20133 votes

Ah yes, the Demacian lore update.

Now that I actually read Vayne's story... So... she went from "killing the bad guys using magic" to "killing everybody who uses magic even friends"?

Such a character development.

Lady Faceless1 votes

Yep, the best thing some Riotler said they wrote her like this 'cause it's "cool". The second problem was, that she had too many common things with Lucian and they just decided to write her like this would solve this problem.

I don't care for cool champion, I wanna have a well-written champion and not a sociopath.

Blood Magicks2 votes

But I love how insane current Vayne is. It makes her dynamic with Vlad - her current most related champion - extremely entertaining.

Lady Faceless4 votes

Giving Vayne some socopathatic tendence is not the worst thing they could do, but the execution has been awful.

The dynamic between both always seems to be pretty promising, but I think it better for Riot not touch it, since I don't think they have the tact for it.

Blood Magicks1 votes

My criticism towards her current lore can be found somewhere in my post history, but in general I'm happy with how it turned out. Could have been way worse, and IMO it was one of the more interesting Demacia lores (may be biased here). By way worse I mean a lot of people saw her as a lawful idiotic good who was all about "hurr durr protect innocents" and it may have been tempting to take her that way - good thing they didn't.

The dynamic between both always seems to be pretty promising, but I think it better for Riot not touch it, since I don't think they have the tact for it.

Hmm. I agree it's really easy to fall into clichés with those two. But I have faith.

Lady Faceless1 votes

They are still better ways to show she isn't a good person without turn her lore into such a mess. But it was my fault, that I actually enjoyed the potential that had the old Vayne...

Riot works - at least for me - is just a coin throw. It ever will be amazing or it will be awful. There is nothing in between. And honest, I prefer to get nothing than getting this kind of... that ever you want to call it. Good writing clearly looks different.

If you have faith, I can only feel jelly about this. My mains don't get any attention and it is better this way, 'cause the moment they got some Riot will fail me. And I'm surely not the only one who feels like this.

Over Innsmouth31 votes

We need answers Riot.

TyrekGoldenspear10 votes

Tides of Blood! I have found you!

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