[Lore Discussion] Jericho Swain and the Direction of Noxus: "Monsters today, Heroes tomorrow."

ModCaptainMårvelous·1/23/2018, 11:53:41 PM·33 votes·11,741 views

I based a lot of this off the special interactions, as I feel it tells me the most about his character, but if we find new or interesting lore when the PBE updates for his longform stuff, this will be updated. That out of the way, we got Swain's rework and...frankly, it paints Swain and Noxus in a very interesting, telling light. To be blunt: Noxus is no longer the bad guy. They're the guy who gets the job done.

#Swain's New Lore: What we know.

"I have seen this place. A vision...a battle..."

Swain, for as far as we know, is still the Grand General of Noxus supplanting Darkwill after his convinent demise. From the looks of it, he still keeps ties with the Black Rose and more. We also know that Swain lost his arm to Irelia during the Ionia-Noxus war and that he's supplanted it with the demonic-empowered arm.

This will be updated with new color lore.

#Swain's Implications: A Tyrant out of Necessity

"People often ask for a hero when a villain is what they truly need."

The most fascinating thing I can gleam from Swain's lore, appearance, personality and quotes is that he's not doing this out of hatred. He doesn't loath Demacia. He doesn't despise Bilgewater. Hell, I don't think he even holds ill will to Ionia despite losing to them. What I do see, however, is a man who is acting out of things he knows. Things that are deeper threats.

Take a look at some of his quotes:

"All roads lead to Noxus...but all visions to Demacia." "We both move pawns in a grand game. And look at that; I'm winning." "They fight the mist above the seas, never looking beneath it." "A pattern, spreading. It has learned to be alive." "A king remains in the mist and another marches."

From these quotes, while it could be that Swain gleams them from champion soul taking, it could be inferred that Swain is reading deeper into the lay of the world. He knows things about Runeterra that others would soon forget. Things that require a united front. It also ties into things like Noxus's rapid expansion across the world and the swelling army. Swain knows that trials await and he's preparing the world for them. But the most important part is from his own teaser trailer. Which we'll get into next.

#Swain as a Person: No Hiding the Demon.

"Your trust may be misplaced, old friend, but it is appreciated."

Swain makes no efforts to hide that what he's doing is barbaric, cruel and monstrous. Everything he does is done out of necessity for both himself and Noxus. These are most apparent in his lines with LeBlanc but can also be seen elsewhere. Swain is blunt and forthcoming: What he's doing is, for lack of a better word, shitty. But it's something that has to be done. Swain understands on some level that this world won't survive if you all try to hold hands and be a goody goody two-shoes about it. Rather, he's going to be the person who is seen as a tyrant but remembered as a hero. Just take a look at his reveal quote:

"I have the vision to see what others cannot. The monsters of today will be the heroes of tomorrow. And by my hand will Noxus rise once more."

However, this also means that Swain understands this will only be for the victor. He has to win. He has to be the one standing on the hill at the end of the day. To accomplish this, he has to do everything in his power to make sure that Noxus's flag is the one still waving, even when the world is crumbling around him. This also means he has to keep some less-than-kind bedfellows like the Black Rose. It also means he could discard friends (such as Darius) in a heartbeat. No matter what, in the end, he has to win.

#End Takes

Swain represents the new direction of Noxus. A nation that is not evil for the sake of being evil but recognizes what it takes to win. They're a nation of cuthtroats, backstabbers and cruelty but a nation that recognizes backstabbing today means a hero's welcome tomorrow. I, for one, am excited to see what other champs either fit into this new vision of Noxus or rebel against it.

With that said, feel free to share your thoughts and your own takeaways from Swain's new look and voice.

85 Comments

RiotWhren1/24/2018, 12:26:41 AM34 votes

One of my favorite things is you guys reading into the details of everything. Basically everything in this post. I sincerely hope you guys will enjoy what's coming soon for Noxus lore!

Tattersall1/24/2018, 2:29:27 AM12 votes

Just want to say, it seems to me that Swain's relationship with LeBlanc is exactly like I hoped it would be.

"I suppose this makes us enemies with benefits"

It seems to me like Swain is manipulating the Black Rose to further his goals while the Black Rose is manipulating Swain to further its goals, but both factions are completely aware that the other is manipulating them, and they're both fine with it 'cause they know that all they can really do is prepare for the fallout that happens when they stop being useful to each other because the other side really is useful enough to be worth the risk. I love it.

Darius Strada1/24/2018, 12:07:07 AM10 votes

He knows things about Runeterra that others would soon forget. Things that require a united front. It also ties into things like Noxus's rapid expansion across the world and the swelling army. Swain knows that trials await and he's preparing the world for them.

If this ends up being true, although kinda gray, Swain has the potential to be one of the greatest heroes and characters in the entire LoL lore by uniting Runeterra in one single banner and creating a strong army to deal with things like the Void, the Black Mist, the World Runes.

Stars Shaper1/24/2018, 12:10:38 AM10 votes

Swain not having lines towards Mordekaiser is quite saddening as he would be one of the major threats to Noxus (and not just some generalistic Black Mist champion).

Friendly Ram1/24/2018, 12:29:39 AM8 votes

I love his throne comment, nice humor there.

Nylisa1/24/2018, 5:18:32 AM3 votes

I love your interpretation of this. but im not sure if i actually agree with Swain here! it raises so many questions ( depending on wether all the information mentioned here turn out to be accurate)

You keep mentioning "get it done" "needs to be done" "wont survive if you try to hold hands" what are these actions that needs to be done? he sees the world as black and white as that? that "winning" is everything? what he is trying to do?

What is his vision? and ultimately whats his agenda? save the world? so at the end he is the good guy? if not then world domination? united Runettera under his banner which means he is after power and control?

Whats the point of winning a war when there is no one left to celebrate it?! and what does this means "but a nation that recognizes backstabbing today means a hero's welcome tomorrow"?backstabbing into what end? doing such a thing will forever mark you as a tyrant who do anything in the name of survival not a hero.

I think you giving these cruel backstabbers and cutthroats a bit too much credit, making it about more than just their personal gains or lust for whatever it is that they are looking for.it is clear that many of them are here just for their own achievements! and not for the better of the world or their nation. thats a plus for Swain to use those to further his own goal.

My guess is that Swain wants unity through domination and that is not going to work under current circumstances, not with the Void knocking the great gates of Runettera down.Noxus is powerful and big but there are too many power houses at play here,too many oppositions for him.

Time is short,Runeterra is vast, you'd think holding hand is actually the only way to get through something as terrible as Void.

This land is going burn while kings like Jarvan and grand generals like Swain are bickering over domination,thinking they got what it takes to "get things done" ! that makes no one a hero it makes them just another one of many leaders who thought they knew better as their nation burned around them!

i just LOVE this! this makes for an amazing read and a great story to follow!

DragonIgnis1/24/2018, 5:08:02 AM2 votes

{quoted} #End Takes

Swain represents the new direction of Noxus. A nation that is not evil for the sake of being evil but recognizes what it takes to win. They're a nation of cuthtroats, backstabbers and cruelty but a nation that recognizes backstabbing today means a hero's welcome tomorrow. I, for one, am excited to see what other champs either fit into this new vision of Noxus or rebel against it.

With that said, feel free to share your thoughts and your own takeaways from Swain's new look and voice.

Noxus has always been focused on power. Power is the only thing that matters in Noxian society. The Swain update hasn't changed Noxus.

Demacia and Noxus aren't supposed to represent good and evil. They're closer to authoritarianism and anarchy. Both sides are morally gray.

Swain's update has defined Swain's personal reasons to desire power. However, the narrative team has kept the core of Noxus the same.

Ifneth1/24/2018, 3:55:24 AM1 votes

Valuing strength above all, knowing that you are doing wrong but being ruthless enough to do it, and using whatever means necessary to gain power is evil.

Just ask my main, Taliyah. She was there when Noxus invaded Ionia. The general who had brought her there on a promise of innocent adventure ordered her to bury sleeping villagers in their homes. Only believe a fellow Noxian? Riven was there, too, on a different battlefield. She watched as Singed’s chemical weapons choked a defending army to death.

No country that has done such deeds cares for anything but its own might. Not for the right, not for its people, not for the world. I pity the fool who believes the demon lord leading it to have foreseen the end of the world and be working heroically to stop it, if only he be given what he wants. Swain lies!