Let's put ourselves in a temporary stasis. It's seems like there is lore to be shown soon(TM). Until then, let's try to not make threads about what's wrong with the lore.
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Stars Shaper13 votesThere is more lore in HotS now.
A Superb Villain12 votesGranted, HotS enjoys a multitude of franchises to draw lore from. Not that this excuses Riot.
Stars Shaper2 votesYeah ofc. I just grew tired of everything about Riot's excuse about lore.
The most irritating things was when they said that there is noway they are gonna get inspiration by fanfics or w/e because this frustrates the writer. Basically that means that good ideas that other players exposed won't see any light and probably that if the player grasped some of the Narrative ideas well those get dumped.
Now one thing. It took me a couple of afternoons to think about 2 stories for Xerath and one for Mordekaiser that could be easily implemented as either shorti stories, quick art videos or whatever the format they like. They have all the coordination to do with other sectors of the company but HOW GODDAM HARD can be to throw 10 lines on the table and see if they can put some work into it to deliver even small sneak peeks?
Doctor Ivellius3 votesI took it as "there's an actual story behind why these characters are interacting," which is no longer true of League of Legends what should we call this game when there's no more League of Legends.
Sharjo6 votesBut the game is technically still a League of Legends by the dictionary definition of said words.
Doctor Ivellius5 votesNo, given that there's no common organization binding the characters together anymore. The game itself (the only place they all can interact) is completely non-canon (or so Riot says).
Sharjo4 votesSo League has many meanings according to places I've been, but it's mostly come down to either:
So League can refer to both the alliance of players in the game or simply the red vs blue competing aspect of the game. And we play as people who can be considered Legendary, which in term pretty much just means:
Which essentially makes legends a very broad word that applies to just about every champion we've got, even the ones that seem a lot less remarkable.
TL;DR by the dictionary definition of league and legends the game's name is still just as accurate now as it's ever been.
Doctor Ivellius3 votesThe battles aren't really happening, though, according to Riot, so the characters are generally unconnected with each other.
Impetual2 votesNot within the in game cannon.
pWasHere1 votesLeague of Legends
Mori Please3 votes[{quoted}](name=A Superb Villain,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ul9pcmE8,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-05-27T15:57:30.456+0000)
Granted, HotS enjoys a multitude of franchises to draw lore from. Not that this excuses Riot.
dosnt blizzard have a much larger lore team than riot's though?
GamerGoodies3 votesTruthfully I hate hero's of the storm. Just some new game blizzard is trying to suck money into.
Just wait it'll become pay to win soon. Just like hearthstone
ChrisB53 votesUm... HotS has technically had a lore for longer than Riot has existed... pretty lame example. All HotS does is adopt all of Blizzard's old lores into one. So... nice try but no.
A Miss Fortune3 votes[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ul9pcmE8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-05-27T15:25:57.021+0000)
There is more lore in HotS now.
I think HoTS will push Riot to actually do more with their game other than periodically release champions and old game modes from a year+ ago.
I hope it pushes Riot to actually make less champions, make new game modes, new maps, and more lore. The reason behind this is because the same game modes and maps are boring after 2,000 games, and when Riot spams new champions the game will feel overcrowded and each champion will have less of a special feeling to them, I want them to feel new and unique and plenty of time spent on thinking them through.
The lore itself is a whole different story, League of Legends has an extremely good base to start up lore but Riot simply isn't doing much or hasn't confirmed a whole lot with us.
CupcakeTrap6 votesTo be honest, I want to be excited, but it's difficult. Not because I think they won't deliver, but because (despite somewhat calming reassurances from Jaredan and company) I'm not yet convinced that they've kicked their "blank slate rewrite" habit. There are a considerable number of characters and settings that have been rebooted more times than they've been otherwise written about.
My LoL lore nightmares involve opening up the League site to find a well-made video and tens of thousands of dollars of other pretty art all wrapped around a revelation that Demacia is now underwater or Jarvan killed Poppy's father or that Ionians and Piltovians have never met. To be perfectly honest, I thought the JoJ was kind of weak most of the time, but I was never scared to see them release a new JoJ issue.
But hope springs eternal. Unlike a cupcake trap, which only springs once per yordle. (But it's enough.)
GenoXx3 votesI feel the same way. I want to believe they can bring good stuff. But you never know. They don't show any intention of giving the shurima long bios. And I'm sure they still have that same habit. Zaun will be the next to get reworked and I feel that WW and Singed will be brought in that. Seeing how Azir and Kalista foreshadowed the their respective factions, Ekko is the spark for Zaun.
Like you, i fear they might just scribbled up the lore, but I'm sure we as lore fans said enough for them to read. Although very subtle, The Noxian Invasion was retcon for a powerful stone. I wish it was fleshed out more. And I don't exactly think that more lore is coming, it's a bit inaccurate. Jaredan claimed that they have lore but are going to release it until further projects. Do I believe this? No. But judging from Ekko's champ release comic, lore and lore hints Zaun is going to definitely get redone soon. I'm just suggesting everyone calm down for a sec to see whats going to happen.
CupcakeTrap4 votesI'm just suggesting everyone calm down for a sec to see whats going to happen.
I have a slightly different view: I think we should figure out what they're aiming at next, and start talking about it a lot. Get all those community ideas out there: what we want to see more of, what we want to see kept the same, what we think could be altered without breaking much other lore. I'd be posting more such threads, but we have a new Factions arc starting, and I have tons and tons to do on that. I feel stupid trying to influence someone else's writing when I have so much that I need to do myself.
GenoXx2 votesWell I agree on the on the community ideas. This is kinda something to start that off. I am predicting that they are going to do Zaun and maybe Piltover too. But I thought you did make a thread on that? I can try and start another one for that particular matter, but I wouldn't want it to be a copy paste.
4nth0l0gy5 votesI can agree to that. I think I've said everything I've cared to say about it at this point, no use beating a dead lore.
Sneak Dog5 votesRiot seems to be willing to retcon anything, loving shock reveals, and disliking discussion of new lore before it's set in stone. Hard to be excited to see new lore when really I am worrying about when there'll be more changes to the old lore and characters I invested in. Even harder when one of my favorite characters was already bluntly removed and replaced.
I don't want to see new lore right now. I'd like Riot to get its vision, its writing philosophy, sorted out and discussed on these boards.
GenoXx3 votesI don't think it will happen. I mean Rioter Bio comes and talk's to us and discuss things for the sake of (Rioter speaking with lore fans.) Although "the narrative Discipline" won't do this...
CupcakeTrap4 votesAlso: wait, why do you think there's more lore incoming Soon™? I think I missed something.
qetzel2 votesMake threads about Singed and Warwick?
GenoXx1 votesit's a reminder yes, but let's wait to see what the Narrative discipline has. To be totally honest, we have seen more that what it used to be for lore in the last two years.
Kaipop2 votesThe grammar I can't
kitcat3001 votesThat would be nice.
kDrakari1 votes