Riot, you're killing off the lore fans.

GenoXx··67 votes·4,060 views

Come on now....... WE can't even start a conversation about lore anymore....not like we used too. Can't someone just give us something that can tell us what's currently going on in runeterra? Or are we just going to slowly die off to the point where no one is going to even acknowledge lore anymore.

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Naziru9 votes

Wait there are other lore fans playing league? I thought they drove us into extinction months ago when they retconned the league of legends out of the league of legends...

Legacy of Xion2 votes

We're few and far between.

Ironclad Dragon9 votes
Hotkey1236 votes

Riot did to their lore what Runescape did to their combat system.

Demonsolder213 votes

OH SHIT!!! THIS GUY WENT THERE!

Big Bang Bob5 votes

The whole lore is just done awfully.

Most of the champion bios are old, and the ones that aren't are disgustingly short. This wouldn't be a problem if Riot were to release content more frequently, but it seems like the lore is tied mostly to champ releases/reworks (which means waiting months for updates). The champs who do have more than a paragraph about them actually have quite a bit of lore, that is, if you can find it. Unless I'm mistaken, there is no official archive for the lore pieces they do. All these problems are multiplied when you realize YOU BARELY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORLD THESE STORIES ARE BEING TOLD IN!!! Most of the things about the world I know are based on assumptions from the old lore.

It's even worst if you're new. Most of the basic info about places in the game where things take place is learned through in game hints! Not to mention the confusion caused from the mention of the completely irrelevant "League of Legends" (which is hilarious considering that's the name of the game) in older champion bios.

To sum things up, here's Azir's lore:

Once a mortal man blinded by his own hubris, Azir has recently returned as an Ascended being with unmatched dominion over the burning sands. He seeks to restore Shurima to its former glory, but some dispute his right to rule them. Azir’s power, however, is undeniable.

Not a lot right? Of course you're probably saying "But Bob, There's much more lore on him if you go to the wiki!", and you would be right. The problem is that if you look at the page on the website, this extended lore or a link to it is nowhere to be found, so without this knowlegde, I'm stuck thinking "Omg this new lore sucks. Why Rito D:".

OyddAWqJ5r4 votes

Well you see, a second Rune Wars broke out between all the remaining summoners that warped all of Runeterra and those in it, creating a massive retcon where all champion's previous identities had been lost. However the summoners, being tied to the runic magic used to warp the world, disappeared along with it.

And so, welcome nonexistent summoner, to Season 2 of the League of Legends lore. (League doesn't exist anymore either I forgot)

Demonsolder211 votes

I thought the void and its armies marched over to the land and destroyed all that lived in it.

Emperor Antares3 votes

No one cares about lore bro they only care about the game (including me)

Sharjo25 votes

Then why did you even come here? What was the point in saying this if you don't give a shit?

Tesla Effect3 votes

As the looks of it, Rioters are only actively commenting here during some major lore release or champion release. Other than that, we wont seeing them come here and comment back the actual answers we want them to....unless its something they can answer about and its during the time they are active here.

GenoXx7 votes

Asking Jaredan would be meaningless. Because he doesn't respond to questions that seem like it's choking up the Narrative. I asked a question while he was here on the boards. He did not respond. So I don't bother to ask them any questions when there are here.

ElJanitorFrank3 votes

If you can't wait a little longer you must be a pretty impatient person.

I love the lore as much as the next guy, but you realize there are hundreds of games out there with hours of lore, right? You can bide your time a few more months.

GenoXx17 votes

lol 9 months plus a few more months...k

ElJanitorFrank1 votes

9 months for what? A big company to tell you what your characters do? That seems pretty bland honestly.

Dextix LT15 votes

9 months to explain what the fck are we even fighting for or even where. Even goddamn DOTA explains that.

Ironclad Dragon2 votes

+1 for Mulan.

Onegarion4 votes

Give me 1 game that you have ever played that hasn't had a backstory? Because right now league is the only one. Even new champions have a pitiful line of text that reveals nothing.

While you personally may not find backstories fun or engaging, there are many people who do. Hell there are games out there dedicated to great story telling and sub par gameplay BECAUSE there are many people who enjoy a good story with todays games in general are sorely lacking.

ElJanitorFrank2 votes

I love the lore of this game. I know most champion's lore and follow it whenever I can.

But complaining about it isn't going to change anything.

4th Chiming Lamb1 votes

Plague Inc! Oh wait, the story is made as the game goes on... Tetris!

Legacy of Xion1 votes

They gave Tetras a story at some point actually.

Legacy of Xion7 votes

Frank, here. Let me put something into perspective.

Shenmue 3, Last Guardian, and the Final Fantasy VII Remake have been announced, as has Gears 4, the Gears of War Collection, not to mention the much begged for next Star Wars: Battlefront. Tomorrow expectations for further long-awaited games are high, as Square Enix has an amazing lineup.

And Riot hasn't even given us a new fucking map of Runeterra. A. Map.

We've fucking waited enough.

DG Ashabel5 votes

In the last two years, Last Guardian managed to get announced, put on hold, re-announced, canceled, upgraded to put on hold, canceled again, and then re-announced again.

Meanwhile, Riot are still drawing us one map.

Legacy of Xion2 votes

And fourteen years for Shenmue 3. About as much as FFVII.

I swear, If I have to add more to my fucking list of Shit that's announced and almost released before Riot Lore, I'm gonna be - actuslly no. I'm already disappointed. What's beyond complete and utter disappointment regarding an entity that makes meaningless promises?

50000000000000002 votes

Riot hired a guy from Warhammer 40K for lore though

Shíny1 votes

Yeah but there were already respected writers working for Riot before he was hired.

LeeDark2 votes

Who?

Ethereal3114 votes

As good as McNeill is, Riot is his employer and what they want done will be what Graham will have to write about when the time comes. This summer should, with the final shred of hope I have remaining in the lore department, hopefully finalize Riot's new stance. Edit: better explanation.

GenoXx1 votes

Actually the Senior Narrative position is still available. So....i don;t think that guy is a rioter yet.

Sharjo1 votes

He probably is because, you know, they hired him, they just want more people in that position.

GenoXx2 votes

Maybe. You might be optimistic Sharjo. But I'm not. Because reality proves time and time again. But I think He's going to look at Riot's track record on lore and be like "I'm out"

terkmc5 votes

A sword is as good as its owner. As good as a writer is, he can't do anything if Riot doesn't give him the ability to do so (allowing long lore, allowing construction of a backdrop the world, allowing actual details, fixing "technical problem", allowing retconing and changes to some of the horrendous un-salvageable lore of Rammus and Skarner)

Occams Raiser1 votes

In Heros of the storm they start off buy telling you not to think too hard about the why. RIOT should do like Team Fortress and make scenarios based on fictitious missions that drive an overall theme.

Dextix LT16 votes

TF 2 and Hots started without no story, that is why it is okay, they did not have a story.

LOL had a story, a story that explained everything happening in the game, BUTTTT it was removed, you think the removal of all lore would be good?

Occams Raiser1 votes

I just need a small synopsis of what brought the champ to the fiend of battle. Nothing more unless it is a comic strip about their adventures.

Rinky Dinky9 votes

That's boring and kills most of league's appeal.

The only reason I started playing league over other moba's is the lore. I actually feel something for the characters.

I've asked around, and a lot of people feel this way.

Anidan9 votes

It was why I started playing League a bit more, actually. Around last year is when the lore started going in an odd direction - when the lore weakened I went to DotA2, and with the older lore now being a confusing mess of words that may or may not be canon right now, I have no reason to return other than for friends.

Boards notwithstanding, of course. I need to keep with the meta for the sake of my friends somehow, and actual gameplay won't do it for me anymore. And also I stay on the boards for the sheer quantity of people thinking they speak for the majority of the playerbase despite the fact there may be a few thousand on the board, tops, and the rest of the multi-million playerbase doesn't go to the forums.

Occams Raiser2 votes

I like talking on the boards as much as playing.

Sneak Dog2 votes

And also I stay on the boards for the sheer quantity of people thinking they speak for the majority of the playerbase despite the fact there may be a few thousand on the board, tops, and the rest of the multi-million playerbase doesn't go to the forums.

We go here to voice our opinion. It means we're willing to invest a bit of time to talk about the lore.

Anidan3 votes

No, no I don't mean people who speak for the boards. I am dearly sorry about that. That was my fault for the poorly worded way of saying that and not writing out who I meant - I refer to the people who discuss balance a fair bit who think their view of any given champion reflects the views of the majority of the playerbase just because a thread is popular. The lore community tends to do that a bit less by saying that what they're saying is the view of the lore community - which would in fact be the people who come here to discuss lore.

Occams Raiser1 votes

I promise you that you are a rarity. And you can hardly say that you play for the lore unless you haven't played since the lore was down. RIOT does what any business does when it comes to trimming fat. Maybe at one point they had a team working on lore then decided once they took it down it wasn't worth putting back up.

Rinky Dinky8 votes

And I can assure you that is not the case.

I think you are wrong, and most people on these forums, and every single other platform of discussing league would as well.

Also, your logic....

"And you can hardly say that you play for the lore unless you haven't played since the lore was down"

That's just stupid and ignorant. What does that have to do with the reasons I started playing this game? Real talk, what in the actual fuck lol.

If I was to purchase a cheeseburger, because I want cheese on my burger, realize there was no cheese, but eat it anyways, does that change the fact that I purchased that burger because It had cheese on it?

No, that's fucking stupid to be blunt.

Now, your derailing of my comment aside, find a main of any champion.

Ask them why they play that champion. Even when they are considered weak. Even when they are flamed for picking them

Its not for the freelo. Certainly not for the kit, unless its Shaco Fiddlesticks or Riven , they could easily find a champ with a similar kit whom is "meta".

It's because they like that champ. They like their design. They like their personality, the things they say, they way there kit complements that. They connect with that champs lore.

Those Yasuo mains? He has been considered either totally OP or total shit since release. During the "shit" period, guess who played him. Those whom enjoyed him as a character and a champion.

Guess who plays Zed right now. He certainly isn't freelo or "op". These boards are the home of bitching about him, and I havent seen a thread in weeks. People whom enjoy the champion. Zed in particular has quite a bit of lore related fan creations.

The champions are why we play this game fool. Claiming otherwise is just nonsense. Everyone has a favorite champ whom they will always go back to.

Some of us just took it a bit further is all.

Occams Raiser1 votes

That's just stupid and ignorant.

If I was an alien that only monitored the net to determine the demeanor of the population, I would swear we weren't raised by mothers.

You bought a cheeseburger cause you like the taste. If I change its taste and you still eat here.... you must have misunderstood why you liked it in the first place or you have changed why you like it now.

Rinky Dinky3 votes

No.

You act like human beings are robots that are only capable of having one set prerogative, unless manually changed to a completely different one. No overlap. No exceptions.

That is not how human beings work. If it was, we would not have a game to bitch about.

LeeDark3 votes

HotS still HAS a story, though. They just make tongue-in-cheek jokes about how bad the story has to be just so they can bring these varied universes together in one game. But even a comedic story is still a story. League had a little of that, and it was enjoyable, frankly. Simply accepting the fact that THIS is the universe the game is in and it isn't like the real world we know is part of the POINT.

Impetual6 votes

League of Legends gained a great advantage within the MOBA market by being different. They had characters that had their own unique backstories in a world that was interconnected, and actually developed through the Journal of Justice.

For some reason Riot wants to throw that away and become more like all of the other bland MOBA's out there.

It's their funeral...but it's still kind of a shame considering their potential.

Riot had a chance to take the their game to the next level, through their awesome lore, yet for some reason they seem to have decided to throw that possibility away.

Occams Raiser1 votes

The reason is "cost effectiveness."

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