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I think the best example of a Demacian villain.

Ralanr·12/21/2016, 7:50:16 PM·24 votes·3,712 views

Is someone who abuses the system for personal gain.

AKA: the corrupt Politician/Noble.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/akamegakill/images/0/06/Honest_main.png/revision/latest?cb=20140930084451

Some of you anime lovers might recognize this chap as Prime Minister Honest (I don't know the Japanese name. Spoilers: his name is ironic). To give a brief summary of his character, he's pretty much the devil on the child emperor's shoulder that's disguised as an angel. He "helps" decide much of the actions that the empire he's in takes place, many of these being incredibly cruel actions to not just other countries (including messengers) but also actions that cause suffering in the general populace (increased taxes and such).

While the world is starving and people steal to feed their children, he'll show up to a trial eating a cake. An actual cake. He's a bit of a slob.

Why does he do this? Does he have a goal? Nope (at least last I checked). He just wants to keep his position and will kill anyone who threatens that (and have a lovely visit with their loved ones after). He doesn't want to rule, he's practically already doing it without any of the responsibilities.

Now I don't believe we should directly copy hear, but I feel this may be the best route for a Demacian villain to go. The other option is one of extremism, but we already have Kayle for that and her lore is meant to be morally ambiguous like Morgana.

We need someone who stands in the light of Demacia but shines only by the reflection of their status, who only cares about how Demacia benefits him/her. Somewhat of an opposite of Leblanc, Noxus's goto villain who hides in the shadows.

That's my idea anyway.

52 Comments

Doctor Jarvis12/21/2016, 8:50:08 PM9 votes

So...Lawful Evil? You want a Lawful Evil Demacian. That seems surprisingly do-able. People don't really think about how terrifying Lawful Evil can be. The guy that stays well within the letter of the law and just uses and abuses it to their own personal gain is way worse than some short-sighted asshole with an ax.

Big Lincoln12/21/2016, 8:59:55 PM6 votes

I think a Demacian higher-up who has a hyper-nationalistic point of view would be pretty nice. Not corrupt, but dangerous still. Has an interest in only the best fate for Demacia and nothing else; even the individual citizens are expendable to him if it means the country will prosper.

Funny Valentine would be a good example

PermabannedGaren12/21/2016, 8:10:09 PM5 votes

Well I mean, Prime Minister Honest is probably the most textbook example of a mustache-swirling cartoon villain I can think of.

He has three character traits: being fat, being evil, and being unexpectedly competent (be it in matters of strategy or combat).

He is a very shallow character, and though a corrupt Demacian noble is a fine concept, I'd hope there would be more depth to them than that.

GreenLore12/22/2016, 12:20:30 AM2 votes

Speaking of prime minister honest,I also noticed that LoL kinda doesn't have a real scumbag among the champions. I mean don't get me wrong I know that there are plenty of evil champs,with some of them doing quite despicable things,but I feel like none of them really apply to the "evil is petty"-trope as a whole. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilIsPetty The closest examples would likely be Jhin,who deals out some pretty low-blow insults with his taunts and is said to want to kill yi and sona out of envy(which was only said by the developers,but not shown in the actual lore). Tahm is also rather close to this,but we don't have that much lore about him,so its hard to say.

Sure I understand the reason for this,as petty villains can easily turn into hate sinks and having a hate sink as a main character is rather risky,but it can simply provide some rather great villains in a story.

Warlord Dienekes12/23/2016, 12:26:11 AM2 votes

I was actually thinking to make a somewhat unique Demacian style villain it might be beneficial to look at something like Red Son of Watchmen for comic readers.

Spoilers for Watchmen if anyone hasn't read it yet.

The main villain, is one of the best well intentioned extremists in fiction. One who still has people arguing if their actions were justified or if all his actions were based on his own delusions of grandeur and hubris.

But whatever you think, he is very close to the core aspects of Demacia, strong, athletic, with an unshakeable moral compass, lawful, with the belief his morals are the true morals, and goals to save the world. But he is also unquestionably the villain of the story.

TheGreatRasputin12/22/2016, 3:10:57 AM2 votes

This kind of sounds like President Snow from the Hunger Games.

Off Meta Evan12/22/2016, 1:54:01 AM2 votes

that IS a good idea for a villain, the only issue is that i think he'd be rather boring to be. like Jhin is a villain no doubt, but he's likeable through how bat shit crazy he is. a politically corrupt asshole does not sound fun to play as. like Sion as he is, he's supposed to be this murderous juggernaut which is fucked up but you feel powerful and strong for it. Xerath feeds my the players possible god complex. but being a holier than thou asshole sounds unpleasant to play as. GRANTED its probably because i fucking hate characters like this in most media with a burning passion for just how unlikable they usually are. (judge frolo from hunchback of notre dame being a great example.)

Mirkhail12/22/2016, 1:59:12 PM2 votes

I don't think we need a "Evil villain" from demacia, what we need are more grey demacia charcters. Showing the extreme military doctrine Garen , the excessive pride of demacia JarvanIV, how demacian society can lead to extreme situation like Fiora how intolerant and how demacian will kill everyone they think is evil Vayne .

Mogarl12/22/2016, 7:08:52 PM1 votes

I feel that the multi-house set up in Demacia might make this hard to be believable, because such a character would have to be ignored by the other nobles. you also have the issue of the dueling culture in Demacia would mean that if one noble thought another was doing something unjust, evil, or impure they could just challenge them to a duel. I don't think that the fellow you used as an example would be able to function in Demacia. A lawful Evil character could work but they would have to be very very subtle in what they gained from it.

l Helios l12/23/2016, 12:29:27 AM1 votes

Yay! Someone else who watched this anime!

Kled Man Walking12/21/2016, 11:47:38 PM1 votes

you could also explore the concept of isolationism, as it's rather recently been stated that demacia is rich in pretty much everything except magic. so, they have pretty good reason to not interact with anyone, ever. you could definitely expand that to an evil character

some degenerate12/22/2016, 1:17:06 AM1 votes

Aren't Leblanc and Vladimir basically that?

Valeckserai12/22/2016, 3:27:14 AM1 votes

http://i.gyazo.com/08d8d6571698506b3ec850943ef4d105.png

I think anyone that read the manga and knows the context behind this picture can agree that was one of the more disturbing scenes in there.

6FlagsFunnelCake12/22/2016, 6:01:27 AM1 votes

Another kind of "Demacian Villain" I'd like to see would be a sort of Anti-Villain, something to show an example of Demacia's cruel punishment. For instance, an escaped prisoner of sorts, one who was probably even framed for a crime he didn't do. Just something darker to contrast from all the Honor-Bound Light feel that the rest of Demacia has, other than people like Shyvana & XinZhao

Beyond Legends12/22/2016, 9:07:01 AM1 votes

Honestly I don't like the idea of the kind evil you describe here. It's simply too DnD ish in term of morals and DnD morality system is shit when it comes to character design. Quite frankly the system you described seems to be very lazy way to paint Demacia Evil. There simply better ways to make Demacia grey rather than what yoy described.

Baron Perenolde12/22/2016, 11:05:52 AM1 votes

I was so happy to see him get his just desserts in the anime, and I'm hoping the manga does him even dirtier.

Meep Man12/22/2016, 7:08:19 PM1 votes

I have decent belief that Jarvan would be considered very dictatorish. I mean, Demacia is the old fashioned "King Rules" kind of kingdom.