I hope this Kled character gives us a perspective on the positive sides of Noxus.

Ralanr·Jul 19, 2016·13 votes·1,892 views

Because we've been sorely missing some of that.

32 Comments

SharjoJul 19, 201610 votes

Honestly I'm just glad we're going back to Noxus. The last officially new Noxian was Draven (Sion's not technically new). You wanna know when he was released?

The sixth of June, 2012.

That's right. 20 fucking 12.

It's been over four years since we've had a new Noxian. About sodding time.

RalanrJul 19, 20161 votes

Agreed my friend. It is time to see Noxus with fresh eyes.

SharjoJul 19, 20163 votes

Wonder what Kled's opinions of folks like LeBlanc, Swain and Darius will be. I feel like that'll be a very key thing to know.

RalanrJul 19, 20161 votes

At least we know how Sion is viewed.

Which makes sense. A zombie war machine probably isn't cleaned often.

SharjoJul 19, 20161 votes

I wonder if Sion's known to the public in a major way, keeping in mind it's probably been over a year in the lore since Sion's return.

On Kled specifically though, I'd imagine the beast would have an even worse view of Sion, as unnatural and potentially smelly he may be.

RalanrJul 19, 20161 votes

That's a good question actually...hmm.

LordGeovanniJul 20, 20161 votes

Should be seeing as how the ceremony is considered a great honor in Noxus

ArakadiaJul 20, 20161 votes

I was wondering when I'd see "sod" again.

SharjoJul 20, 20161 votes

I'll be sure to add more sod to my daily amount of sod, you sodding bastard Arakadia!

ArakadiaJul 20, 20161 votes

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WestTigerJul 20, 20164 votes

I want a major Noxus event, mostly because I want to know exactly how and what got changed in their leader, Swain 's storyline.

Seriously read up on his specific storyline throughout the Journal of Justice over 3 years. It's amazing how interwoven Swain's rise from General to Grand General was.

And then the mega lore-retcon happened, and now we just don't know!

There's all these mixed messages! If for example, Sion's remake and story is still canon since he's so new, then the entire plot with Swain engineering and fighting his way to the top is still canon...even though now Dominion disappeared and it was during the Dominion event that the trick he and LeBlanc discussed in Sion's promotional page happened!

So yeah, I think it would just help all the Noxian champions to have a big event, like the Bilgewater event but even bigger because of how many Noxian champions there are, just to consolidate the new lore finally!

Jeddy017Jul 19, 20164 votes

I just wonder if we're going to get a Noxus update page similar to Targon & Shurima. Both of these regions & their champs's lores were updated around the time a new champ for said region came out. Aurelion Sol for Targon & Taliyah for Shurima, though Sol wasn't announced when the Targon update started.

It would be cool if they do a similar thing with Kled's release. It would be great to have a solid update on Noxus & it's champs. Yeah, we got hints of what Noxus is like from other champion teasers & backstories, but Noxus is often just the antagonist or not the main focus ( Karthus 's backstory). Let's shine the spotlight on Noxus from the POV of the champs of Noxus.

Cassiopeia Darius Draven Katarina Leblanc Riven Sion Swain Talon Urgot Vladimir , I want to see update the bios updated for these guys. And before anyone says anything, I don't really consider Morgana a part of Noxus. Yeah, in the old lore she lived there, but her story isn't solely tied there. Urgod knows what the hell is up with her & Kayle in the new lore. As for Annie , it depends on what they would do for her backstory. It could go either way.

Yeah, I guess I can say it's not really Kled him, her, it or themself I'm hyped for. I'm more hyped for Noxus really.

RalanrJul 19, 20163 votes

I have my doubts that we'll get a Noxus lore update honestly. Only on the grounds that the updates usually happen before the new champion is teased (or the updates are the teasers).

I'll be pleasantly surprised if we get one though.

Blood MagicksJul 20, 20161 votes

Jaredan said Noxus won't be the next place to get updated.

RalanrJul 20, 20161 votes

Aww.

Jeddy017Jul 20, 20161 votes

Really? Where did he say that?

Beached ManateeJul 19, 20162 votes

To be fair, Noxus does have a war-hungry zombie king. I can't imagine that much good there...

RalanrJul 19, 20161 votes

Sion isn't a king.

SharjoJul 19, 20162 votes

And neither is Swain. He's the Grand General.

Grand. General.

RalanrJul 19, 20161 votes

Correct.

I should have said, "Noxus doesn't have a monarchy."

Malicious MetalJul 20, 20162 votes

It used to.

Bout damn time they return to the good ol' days.

Mordekaiser Hue

RalanrJul 20, 20161 votes

Oh yes, that little tidbit. I'd love to know Noxus's place in the retcon now that we know that the capital is Mordekasier's old crib.

ArakadiaJul 20, 20162 votes

Riot paints the fight of Noxus V.S Demacia too black and white. This would be awesome.

OleandervineJul 20, 20162 votes

If Kled is the Noxian Yordle, he's definitely going to be the first lighthearted Noxian we have (Draven isn't light hearted - just arrogant), and I'm eager to see how he fits into things. I can foresee Kled being the nemesis of Poppy though, if not oddly infatuated with her, akin to a Yordle version of Garen and Katarina. I also see him being entranced by the Void creatures, namely Kog'Maw, as well as all the other beasts like Tibbers, Gnar, Volibear, and Rengar.

RalanrJul 20, 20161 votes

Isn't Veigar the Noxian Yordle?

Then again, that might have changed in the retcon.

OleandervineJul 20, 20161 votes

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Isn't Veigar the Noxian Yordle?

Then again, that might have changed in the retcon.

No, his lore has never been retconned, but he was framed and arrested for the crimes of a Noxian merchant that screwed him over and thus imprisoned in a Noxian jail for years. This twisted him when he was set free, and thus he began his plans to conquer the world. He's not Noxian, but he was influenced by a Noxus prison, so I can see the confusion. He acts independent of any city state though.

OurLestradeJul 19, 20161 votes

The only worry I have if it turns out to be a beast thing for Noxus is that I've always had Noxus as a human supremacist sort of faction in my head canon, all about defending humans and humans alone :P

WestTigerJul 20, 20161 votes

Their's is an extreme form of meritocracy, but its fair. Heck even Darius , who you think only believes in martial prowess, is willing to follow and support Swain because he legitimately recognizes the General's intelligence and leadership qualities.

That honestly makes me think there's more depth of character to Darius compared to his Demacian counterpart Garen , who really does seem to be the cliche strong-guy who follows his warrior prince because the latter is royalty and that makes him better.

But yeah, Noxus' main positive quality is that belief that both brains and brawn are valued, and that one can fight his way for a better position regardless of birth. Though that kind of thinking also led them to be fairly amoral considering the necromancy bit but hey, I don't expect Noxus to be all sunshine and rainbows.

RalanrJul 20, 20161 votes

The biggest problem I have with Noxus is that we mainly have an outsider view. Darius is the closest we have to an inside look, and it doesn't really paint it any better (sure it showcased that anyone can go anywhere through enough strength, but it also paints the society as incredibly open to Klingon promotions).

What about the social life of Noxus? Holidays, agriculture, music, family dynamics, education, or even their trading! They clearly trade with some people, so they aren't universally hated.

Yes Noxus is willing to do what it can to win, but we barely know the reason why it is willing to do so! Was it originally a weak empire? Are their lands unfit for mass agricultural production?

I just keep imagining Noxus surrounded by this swampy wasteland and I don't think that's true. I'm willing to bet that even the skull fortress looks beautiful on a sunny day.

WestTigerJul 20, 20161 votes

Now the new lore is Noxus being literally built on the bones of a previous empire, so we can only guess. I feel like Riot may meld the old and the new, that the big 'coup' in the past where apparently there was a huge revolt, may have been the citizenry versus the 'corrupt nobles' of the previous empire (who I believe were under Mordekaiser ? I admit I haven't read up on his new lore in-depth)

As for all the other bits, the Journal of Justice used to give a bit of context. Off-the-top of my head, what I remember (and this is old lore so take with a grain of salt)

Apparently ONE General's promotion to High Command, as it was with Swain, necessitated a whole bloody ball in his honor! Though High Command is the equivalent of a 'royal family' I suppose, it meant he had vastly increased political power so the whole event was political posturing. He did have LeBlanc as his date and the article about them did mention how her just being in public at all, and with Swain, basically built him up immensely.
Noxus does have a 'normal' living sector. That's where Morgana set-up her bakery. The JoJ was great for featuring the day-to-day lives of Champions.
I vaguely remember them being mentioned to celebrate several of the 'universal' Runeterran holidays. Like the Halloween/Lunar New Year events.
They love their blood sports, what with the arena where Alistair, Xin Zhao, and even J4 ended up in before. Noxus is kinda like fantasy-Romans but with less of a senate, and more of an Emperor mentality.
Before Aatrox and the greater 'lore' behind Runeterra and Noxus, there was a lot of detail about how the first big civil war happened. Mages got kicked out, the 'ruling family' and nobles were killed. Military generals took over. There was a legendary warrior named Raedsel, who challenged Boram after the coup. Raedsel lost, but Boram honored him by having elite guards wear his helmet style. It's the multi-eyed look that some of the Noxian soldiers used to wear. Its also the helmet that looks a lot like Swain's bird form with the multi-red-eyes.

Yeah a lot of the things about Noxus was part and parcel of Swain's story, but I think that was the point. The JoJ was basically this vehicle for this very intricate storyline that ran through, and through it we saw a lot about what Riot wanted Noxus to be.

But right now, who knows how much is kept, discarded, or reworked.

LordGeovanniJul 20, 20161 votes

positivity is all relative to me demacia looks like a dictatorship emposeing their ideals on others and other countries

RalanrJul 20, 20161 votes

This is true, though Demacia has that image of shining justice that only becomes grey when you look deeper into it.

Noxus feels like a very dark grey. I want to see more of the grey than the black.