Where is kale and morgana during this event?

I wouldn't say that this is the case.

Champs who have nothing but autotargets tend to be rather hard to balance,because these champs have to pay for this reliability with power. Meaning a champ with lots of click-ons/auto-targets will be inferior to champs with skillshots,as long as the skillshotchamp is played by someone competent.

Even worse is the fact that champs without skillshots tend to be even more opressive when ahead,because you can't really outplay them.

Though that doesn't mean that I agree with Arsenic sulfur here. Kindred needs to position themselves correctly for their Q to hit the right targets and their ult can easily benefit the enemy team more than your own.

I'm pretty sure one of the biggest goals with Kayle is to weaken her ulti, not strengthen it. Maybe even swap away from it. Riot doesn't seem to like full invulnerability very much, and if they shift Kayle away from the Support role they apparently originally thought she'd be in, there's less of a point to it.

As for Morg, I do like the idea for the retribution shield. Sorta goes away from the "freedom" anti-CC stuff and more to a "revenge" theme, but that works well. I really dislike your ulti change, though. A huge part of her ult is positioning to maximize the number of enemies hit. Having a 3s channel where you're rewarded for having everyone right next to you as an incredibly squishy, immobile mage seems like an unintuitive mechanic that'd either make her ult fairly useless (since her ult is already an extremely long stun, you'd have to lower the CC duration further away rather than raise it nearby) or make her build tank (which is so much worse).

In fact, your Morg rework in general looks super tanky. Flat passive HP regen based on minions killed, damage reflection, and an ult that wants you immediately adjacent to your targets for an extended period of time. In fact Morg's Q already rewards you for staying close to your target (seriously, that projectile is slow), and her W is best if you can force them to stand in it if they want to fight her - less need to chain your Q-R combo to get the full W duration that way. This'd shut down any hope she'd have of being a mid mage. In fact, I'm pretty sure that rework would make her a top-lane split push/teamfight tank, similar to Shen. After all, her shove at level 5+ is already pretty amazing. She can pretty much put a W on the caster minions and walk away, and the lane will autopush (in fact, that's the standard backing strategy for me when I take her TT bot - force/wait for the foe to back, W the casters, Q any cannons (or lacking that, a melee) for the extra gold, then b. It bounces by the time you're back. Doesn't work if they're pushed past the middle of lane towards you until you have first item, but after that you can bounce or autopush any empty lane whenever you want.

Don't take this the wrong way, mind - I like some of the ideas and themes in general. They just need a bit of a perspective and role shift. :)

In what way were Kindred messed up? Current crit synergy is a lot better than their full on-tilt damage, in my opinion. I mean, Kindred don't have any abilities that deal straightforward damage, it's all basically tied to AA and Wolf can do some DPS.

I'm used to this Morgana and i've grown to like her and play her like she already is. But her kit design is pretty dated, even if it's still as strong as it used to be. But having a lot of mobility options in League nowadays, puts her kit into the bin most of the times. Her Q has quite a fair speed and hitbox and the only mastery currently you can display as a Morgana main is your ability to hit snares consistently, in multitude of situations.

That's a pretty low bar to try to hit. Her mastery curve leaves a lot to be desired. Now, this doesn't mean she has to become a lot more complicated mage (like Katarina for example) but just that there has to be more options for Morgana players to show their growth.

And just as you've said, her W is a slave to her Q. In mid lane, it's an important thing for her to manage minion waves so you'd want to level her W anyway, because hitting her Q on max range (and quite possibly having to deal with minions as well) isn't worth the early points. Her snare duration is really high (2 seconds base) and that's pretty much you'd want to care about in ganks. It can be a 1 point wonder ability, given the low mobility matchups. Her Q's CD is static anyway.

In terms of how much change i'd expect from her in the future, i don't really know. I think her design is solid but just needs modernization (same as Warwick). I don't think she needs Galio level or work (everything new) but if Riot basically keeps her core familiar to us Morgana players, i don't think i would mind it even if she looked a bit different. In any case, i know Riot's going to fit the design with the narrative and that she wouldn't look out of place. But i'm just too used to her "bra with a dress" look, that's a part of her charm for me.

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One Morgana Main to another, I understand a lot of what you're saying, and it makes sense. I generally play her in the mid slot, and while I'd be okay with Riot changing things, I'd want them to be very careful.

Her passive and W are actually great balance levers, as they are now. Want to buff Mid Morgana, but not Support? Up the passive from 10%-20% to 15%-30%, and lower the mana costs on W from 70-85-100-115-130 to 70-80-90-100-110. There. Support Morgana is basically untouched while Mid Morgana got a sizable boost.

I agree, but not touching that would be a huge limiter on what they can do with her. Her W is prolly the least-iconic part of her kit, sadly.

Listing things that are important to me as Mid Morg

Fast efficient wave clear from early levels with minimal payment.

This is sorta what makes Midgana a thing. Without it, she'd be relegated exclusively to support unless some other huge change was made.

High threat-pick potential by herself when hitting a Q.

Yesss. Same for support Morg, for this one. Her most important ability by far.

The E shield CC immunity, especially the way it combines with her innate sustain to make it really hard to shove/dive Morgana off the wave.

High counter-engage (Mid Morgana is obnoxiously good at this).

These sorta go together. Morg's one of the very few champions with whom I prefer to 1v2. She's so safe that the level advantage makes a huge difference, and gets me lots of kills on the rare occasion I get to do it.

Levers for Riot to pull so that, if Morgana hits a situation where she's 45% Mid win rate, and 54% Support Win rate, they can change it so she's 49%-51% respectively. Aka, I want her as a Mid, not as a Support.

A lot of this prolly depends on goals for the rework. Is Morg meant to be support, mid, or both? I really really hope they don't kill her mid (and in fact despite being a support Morg main would rather see her mid/top than support). She's too fun as a damage-y mage to just give that up.

Things I'd be willing to give up

The passive. While I like it in terms of sustain, provided Riot meets the above, I'd be more than happy for something more inventive.

Yeah, I'd really be very happy if they replaced or at least reworked the passive. Changing that would be esp. good for support Morg, since there's very little sustain without damage, but in general it's just a chunk of outdated stats. Useful, but there could be much more interesting options for her.

Her ultimate, while I really enjoy it (especially for the Lvl 6 100-0 flash all in), it does give her this "I want to be forever away, but then Go Ham for 3 seconds). Granted, this is part of the balance lever on the ultimate, and her anti-synergy with this spell is why Morgana is allowed to have it. If they wanted to go more of a battlefield control/artillery direction, I could get behind that.

I will note that her ult does have use cases, partly based on when the enemy dives your team, and your ability to build bulky enough to not be insta-gibbed up until the late game.

Yeah, her ult is really weird on her kit. Don't get me wrong, it's loads of fun, and gives her a ton of playmaking potential but it puts her early-game in a position of building for teamfights or damage, but not both. It synergizes well with her Q for a single target, and with her E if the foes are all about magic damage, but it's otherwise just a really strange ability in an otherwise super ranged-oriented kit. If there are any candidates for total replacement, it's the ult, imo.

Puddle could also go, but I'm not sure how they'd fit her with a kit that has 'safe' and 'has wave clear' without it, or something very similar. That said, it is kind of slaved to the Q for anything PvP related.

Yeah, this is sorta her biggest issue imo. She's super-binary. Either you land your Q and everything else, or you miss your Q and you do very little damage. Granted, with that Q, it's hard to not make it about comboing off of her Q, but I would like to see more tools that aren't so intrinsically reliant on Q.

The Q and E are sacred, though. Perfect spells.

Q is the one I care the most about. E is amazing, but losing Q would kill her as a champion for me. That pick potential - long-range, slow-moving skill shot with very high reward for consistent accuracy - is what makes her so good for me. My reflexes are terrible, and my focus is poor, but my skill shots and prediction are ~high gold-low plat from what I'm told.

If anything, I'd like to see Morgana be pulled away from the Zhoynas interaction. League Of Mobility makes that not work out, combined with Zhoynas being crippled so hard stat wise, I just almost never buy the thing anymore.

oh gosh yes please. Especially with itemization as it is, relying hard on one item in order to use your primary teamfight tool without dying is terrible. This is prolly my #1 priority for her rework. So many fun, fascinating Morg builds ruined by the forced Zhonya's first/second item.

-Another Morg main!

He's only evil in bronze :^) jajaja

1. Darius only leaves Swain in power because he knows Swain is way smarter than he is, plus Darius probably wouldn't be front line if he was the commander.

2. I mean literally disarm, cut the hand off and he can just chill B^)

3. He seems more to brag and joke about it than use it as coping.

4. 1v1 me irl