Illaoi Skin Vote: Feedback

Chembaron Yamada·Nov 21, 2017·56 votes·3,296 views

The results for the Illaoi skin vote are out and it turned out that Battlecast Illaoi was the winner.

Unfortunately, I see alot of negative feedback here in the boards, coming from people who voted for one of the other 2 options, which are frustrated now. While this is understandable, it's sad to see how people are reacting here.

Just like after the VS event, the voices of negative feedback are louder. People who are disappointed are more likely to come to the boards and vent over it than people who want to share how happy they are with the winner.

So I just want to point out: There are alot of people in the community who liked the whole event. It was great to be part of the skin development process and I look forward to the articles showing us how the skin is progressing.

I would be highly disappointed if this feedback would lead to Riot not doing such a vote in the future, just like I hope that Riot will continue the VS events in the future as well.

So please share your positive feedback about the event. Let's show Riot that we appreciate what they did for the community and that we would like to see that coming back.

88 Comments

VelvetCrotchNov 21, 201712 votes

Great job man. I am behind everything you said.

(hate me, but i really do like the concept-winner)

krOneNov 21, 20176 votes

(hate me, but i really do like the concept-winner)

There's nothing to hate about it dude. The majority of players picked Battlecast so your opinion that it's the nicest skin of the 3 is the most common opinion. Yea you'll see a ton of people in the forums and reddit ragging on how it's "bland" or "ugly" and while that's their understandable opinion they're the minority voice being extra loud. The fact is that nearly half of LoL players prefer BC; in addition the more "hardcore" an Illaoi main/OTP was the more favorable their choice was towards BC. Basically Illaoi mains wanted Battlecast more than non-Illaoi mains.

OleandervineNov 21, 201711 votes

I really wanted Adventurer, and I was a tiny bit bummed when I saw this one won, but I'm not upset about it. I really liked this one too for the X-Men Days of Future Past feel, so I'm all for it. I just really wanted Indiana Jones Illaoi more.

marpatt11Nov 21, 20175 votes

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I really wanted Adventurer, and I was a tiny bit bummed when I saw this one won, but I'm not upset about it. I really liked this one too for the X-Men Days of Future Past feel, so I'm all for it. I just really wanted Indiana Jones Illaoi more.

what if we get a skin called inDiana jones, where its Diana dressed up as indiana jones.

ahferroin7Nov 21, 20172 votes

Other than the inevitable copyright infringement lawsuit, that would actually be rather neat. Her personality as portrayed in the stories actually sounds like a reasonable fit for the theme (although she reminds me more of Archeologist Vash from Star Trek TNG and DS9 than Indiana Jones TBH).

Solidair3Nov 21, 201710 votes

I didn't vote for that one, but I support it. i liked all three, really, but I felt that the deep space one was the coolest! (I liked the black slimy tentacles).

In any case I like it when riot does votes like this. (Though it panned out for me last time Diana )

AVA FoxlingNov 21, 20177 votes

I voted for a different skin myself, but im okay with whatever skin they pick, simply because she needs more skins in general and the masses have spoken. i was only sad she didn't get a skin that was solely for her. but yay a new skin for tentacle lady!

KloqdqNov 21, 20175 votes

Personally the skin isn't for me. Does that mean I hate this contest and never want one like it again? Does that mean I'll be mad over the winner?

No, don't take the wrong message from this Riot. Some people will dislike the results but that was bound to happen. It was fun and I'm looking forward to that Illaoi skin in a couple months.

Chembaron YamadaNov 21, 20172 votes

I really wish that more people would have your mindset. It is understandable that people are disappointed, since their vote didn't win.

But it oftenly feels like people just have a bad opinion about this event because their skin lost and not because they didn't like the event itself. Like if their skin had won, they would have liked the event.

Let's hope that they will continue such events in the future to let the community be part of the process from time to time.

Late For TeaNov 21, 20174 votes

I think it was great that Riot let us in on the decision making process. I certainly hope it will be done again in the future. That sad, the negativity could have been forseen. Riot gave players a taste of what-could-have-been; and when players don't get it there's obviously going to be salt.

moogle890Nov 21, 20174 votes

I was sad when i saw the winner. I honestly don't like the Battlecast skin line (or any of the cyberpunk/machinery lines). So I was disappointed we were getting yet another mechanical skin. I'm also sad because this means Illaoi might not get another skin for another few years.

NoblewindNov 21, 20174 votes

Disappointed but haven't written about it until here. I personally thought the battlecast was the worst of the 3, I thought the deep space one looked amazing.

I was really happy to find out that the results of the Illaoi mains matched the overall vote though. It was cool that they showed that

KrigjerNov 22, 20174 votes

At this point I just feel like robotic skin themes are overdone (Battlecast, PROJECT, Mecha...)

Star themes are also overdone (Star Guardian, Cosmic, Dark Star...) but the Deep Space Illaoi skin was giving me Dead Space vibes + harkened back to AstroNautilus and Astronaut Teemo. (That's what I voted for and hoped would win)

Just my two cents.

Chembaron YamadaNov 22, 20173 votes

I get the feeling people are focusing on the wrong stuff here. My point is: yes, you didn't like the result. But does this necessarily mean that you didn't like the whole event?

Didn't you like to be part of the skin development process?

QuephaNov 22, 20173 votes

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But does this necessarily mean that you didn't like the whole event?

Yes, it seems like the overall community's taste is so bad that I'd be better off if Riot's decisions were left up to individuals on the skin team or even a Magic 8-ball.

Battlecast was far and away my least desired option.

Chembaron YamadaNov 22, 20172 votes

And then you complain that I don't engage on your "feedback".

What kind of feedback did you give here? You are just belittling the community here, because the majority simply didn't share your personal taste of aesthetics.

You don't provide any constructive feedback in any way, negative feedback can still be constructive.

QuephaNov 22, 20173 votes

How is that not accurate feedback? The things I want are consistently not the things that the majority wants, so votes just end up being tyranny by majority where bland, broad appeal always wins and interesting, niche appeal always loses.

Nik NikersonNov 22, 20173 votes

Your taste is terrible because I don't like the things you like. No one should ever listen to you because the things you like are truly bad and literally anything other than what you like is a better choice.

See how that's not constructive feedback?

QuephaNov 22, 20172 votes

I don't see how that's related to my feedback.

Nik NikersonNov 22, 20173 votes

Because that's basically what you said.

QuephaNov 22, 20173 votes

Nope, not even similar.

KrigjerNov 23, 20174 votes

Didn't you like to be part of the skin development process?

No, because now I see what could have been and am disappointed that my favourite didn't win. But that's just me and the type of person I am.

JkrexxNov 21, 20173 votes

I've not complained and I appreciate the event. Unfortunately, for some reason, the worst skin out of the three (in my opinion) won the vote and people are just frustrated. Riot knows how this playerbase works by now so I doubt it'll put them off too much.

Chembaron YamadaNov 21, 20174 votes

Probably, but I still would like to see some people share their positive thoughts here. Even if they know this, it would be nice for them to read that big parts of the community think that it was great what they did there. [slayer-jinx-catface]

E Man foreverNov 21, 20173 votes

My initial reaction to when I saw the winner was “Wait Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!”

QuephaNov 21, 20173 votes

Why would I give positive feedback about an event that only gave me disappointment?

I don't think Riot should do voting things in the future similar to this that determine content that players get, it's not a good idea.

Creating an environment where only positive feedback is allowed makes all the feedback worthless.

Chembaron YamadaNov 21, 20173 votes

Where exactly did I state that just positive feedback is allowed? What I did was to ask people who think positive about the event to voice it here, since the disappointed crowd usually tends to voice their opinion, while the people satisfied with the event don't.

If that is your opinion, that's fine for me. I hope that it turns out that the majority of the community enjoyed the event and we are getting something like it again.

QuephaNov 21, 20172 votes

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Where exactly did I state that just positive feedback is allowed?

Here's a spot:

What I did was to ask people who think positive about the event to voice it here

TwitchInMyPantsNov 21, 20173 votes

Honestly regardless of the winner its clear the design is tentative (likely going to change before release) and the fact they took community feedback for a champion that needed a skin is a good opportunity. They should do this more often.

The Nami GoddessNov 21, 20173 votes

Personally, I only liked the adventurer skin. It was a cool new concept and imho the battlecast and space themes are horrifically overdone. But in the end, Illaoi is getting a new skin. I won't be buying it, I'll be sticking to void. But I did my part in trying to make something happen. I voted and that's all I could do. The fact is that I'm only one opinion. I can't expect for everyone to agree with me and I can't complain when people don't. And I'm definitely not going to be spamming the boards with BabyRage. It's not going to help anyone and it's not going to change anything

ahferroin7Nov 21, 20173 votes

TBH, while I agree people are being jerks about this, the whole 'only one' thing makes it pretty easily understandable. All three skins were reasonably fleshed out (those were 3D renders, not just splash art, so they already had a significant percentage of the work done on all three), and they were all reasonably good skins (I didn't really like any of them, and would have preferred a Mecha or Project skin, but that's just me). Given that, I actually doubt Riot will just bin the other two, and would be willing to bet that they will be distinct possibilities next time Illaoi gets a non-event related skin (although the deep space one would probably make a cool Halloween skin). If that's the case, then Riot would be far better off stating that (IOW, 'Which one do you want first?' instead of 'Which one do you want?') from a PR perspective.

Shatter the SunNov 21, 20173 votes

I am honestly annoyed that it wasnt deep space. Especially since every forum I go I would see deep space and even lol reddit had deep space on its banner. Guess I didnt take into account how many people werent on any forums and such.

On the skin note...I HATE the tentacle design. It has a hand on the end of it and it looks goofy as hell imo. Part of me wants to also put blame on the boob window and would like to see what would happen if they did a revote but removed the boob window cause I SWEAR it has something to do with it. I am also tired of all these fucking robot skins. It would be a bit better if she actually looked like a battlecast but she doesnt. This is more mad max meets cyberpunk and it was done in all the wrong ways. Nothing about the skin stood out. The outfit just doesnt say much other than my reality sucks and im trying to change a dieing world. Adventurer atleast coulda had a good story but the fact that it had the same colors as base killed it for most.

Deep space seemed the best because those tentacles would of looked sick with slamming them and watching them peel off the ground. The story could be expanded on by adding more to the skin line or adding it to the astro skin line and making them have an enemy. It was something done but I just felt they had alot more room to add their own flair onto it without too much expectation. With battlecast she has to look a certain way and sound a certain way to be a "battlecast skin". As an Illaoi main I am still going to buy the skin. But I will always have this disappointed feeling that she coulda been so much more.

Papa AndreiNov 22, 20172 votes

Its not an exact Battlecast, they stated its meant to be the anti-battlecast. Basically the faction fighting against Viktor.

Ahri Body PillowNov 21, 20173 votes

People are allowed to not be happy with the results, myself included. Battlecast is, quite frankly, an overdone theme. I understand the lore behind the skin, but the particles and colors have been done to death.

Additionally, Adventurer and Deep Space would have opened up the door for an entirely new skin line or expanded upon a current skin line with a small champ lineup.

IMO, the only bright side is the fact that Riot is at least looking into new skin lines or expanding Deep Space.

JaspersNov 21, 20172 votes

As someone mentioned in a different thread, the Battlecast got the most votes but the other 2 got more votes than Battlecast so there will be more people disappointed than happy.

I'm fine with it but I personally would have liked the Deep Space because it would have stood out more. Her basic skin is green/pale blues, Void is purple, while Battlecast is just greys and it's hard to make great 'grey' skins.

Deep Space though, black tenticles clashing with the white of the space suit? Would have popped out colour wise.

But alas.

HalcyonDwellerNov 21, 20172 votes

Oi listen up. I only voted for something besides the battlecast skin because the tentacles were replaced with a robotic arm. If Riot puts the work into it and doesn't just make a robot arm then I have no problem with this being the skin.

I'm just going to be very disappointed if they replace the tentacle with a joint based limb. It's a tentacle not an arm, and as long as they don't fuck that up I'll be very excited to see the skin.

winteriscoming97Nov 21, 20172 votes

I don't play Illoai personally, it's just that we already have so many new robotic skins that recently came out and the other two would have added more variety. Although, a vote is a vote, I just expected people to follow similar reasonings

Yosuke ApperuNov 21, 20172 votes

I feel like they should just release all three, it'd put her skin count up there with echos, plus they literally just released to blitzcrank skins at the same time. I know he hasn't gotten a skin in awhile, but illaoi hasn't gotten a skins aside from her release. Aurelion sol and taliyah are in the same boat.

Dying InstinctNov 22, 20172 votes

People seem to forget that final product and concept art are very different. If you think Battlecast Illaoi looks bad from the concept, don't judge too soon. Just look at Jhin's concept art vs. his final look. Dramatically different. The concept art is just a way to get some basic ideas out. Remember that it's shared its development with 2 other concepts, which are now being put aside.

RobronoNov 22, 20172 votes

Just like after the VS event, the voices of negative feedback are louder. People who are disappointed are more likely to come to the boards and vent over it than people who want to share how happy they are with the winner.

Yes, which is why letting us vote on which skin we get is an awful idea, because people who really wanted that Astronaut skin will never get it and will be very resentful, whereas if Riot just made one of them into a skin, we would have been none the wiser to the other two options, and thus people would me much less dissatisfied. While to some people this is a great, magnificent idea, I wholly believe in the opposite. This idea breeds dissent and anger among those who voted, but lost, and even the people who won need to wait months before they finally get what they want.

Chembaron YamadaNov 22, 20171 votes

This is not a problem with the system of letting us vote, that is solely a problem with the mindset of people. You don't stop going to elect the president just because your candidate didn't win the very first time you did and you are still pissed about it, do you?

You can enjoy being part of the process of skin development even if your choice didn't win.

RobronoNov 23, 20172 votes

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This is not a problem with the system of letting us vote, that is solely a problem with the mindset of people. You don't stop going to elect the president just because your candidate didn't win the very first time you did and you are still pissed about it, do you?

You can enjoy being part of the process of skin development even if your choice didn't win.

This IS a problem with the system, because it is unnecessarily dividing the community into three groups, making one happy and two sad, it's simply not going to be good for anyone aside from the group that won. The system is wholly unnecessary when Riot has been doing a wonderful job creating skins in the past, there is just no need to implement this voting system that does nothing but give us a very, VERY small hand in the skin in exchange for upsetting a very significant amount of people.

Chembaron YamadaNov 23, 20171 votes

What makes me sad here is that this forbids any kind of competition from Riots side.

It was the same in the VS event. The supporters of order were disappointed in the end, but I still think that it was an extremely fun competition and I would like to see the VS events becoming an annually thing.

And there actually is benefit in that voting. It is market research for them, letting them see what kind of skins for specific champions the community would like to see.

RobronoNov 23, 20171 votes

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What makes me sad here is that this forbids any kind of competition from Riots side.

Not true, the VS event was a different beast because it allowed for an additional incentive to play League, it stoked the flame of rivalry and competition. That and they also gave both sides access to a legendary skin and an icon, whereas this current event gave nothing to the loser's side and everything to the victor's side.

It was the same in the VS event. The supporters of order were disappointed in the end, but I still think that it was an extremely fun competition and I would like to see the VS events becoming an annually thing.

I agree, that was a blast that I would like to see more of, but not this dumb "Vote for a skin" kinda thing.

And there actually is benefit in that voting. It is market research for them, letting them see what kind of skins for specific champions the community would like to see.

They already get an inane amount of market research from surveys they send out in client, from champion popularity and play rates, the amount of skins sold for each champion, which skins are most popular, etc. Riot doesn't need this sort of negative exhibition to attain market research they can already get much faster and far more efficiently.

Chembaron YamadaNov 23, 20171 votes

Did you look into the boards back then when Chaos was announced as the winner of the VS event? Many people were really displeased with that result. And since that disappointment is kinda your argument that the vote was a bad thing, since it was dividing the community, it applies to the VS event as well.

The discussions about the VS event actually were much more heated than in this Illaoi skin vote. People were insulting each other here in the boards pretty often.

But that's your opinion, though I will respect it. I stand to my opinion that this skin vote was a great thing and they should continue to do these.

RobronoNov 23, 20171 votes

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Did you look into the boards back then when Chaos was announced as the winner of the VS event? Many people were really displeased with that result. And since that disappointment is kinda your argument that the vote was a bad thing, since it was dividing the community, it applies to the VS event as well.

The discussions about the VS event actually were much more heated than in this Illaoi skin vote. People were insulting each other here in the boards pretty often.

But that's your opinion, though I will respect it. I stand to my opinion that this skin vote was a great thing and they should continue to do these.

I guess you're right that it did divide the community, but I still stand by my opinion that it's better than the Illaoi voting event for reasons previously stated.

Noobinoob der IINov 24, 20172 votes

The main problem was that there was a majority for one design but also a big interest in the other two designs. It wasnt that the other two got 2% and one got 98%. I don't like this winner takes all mentality. Its bad for this, politics and society.

I also think Battlecast is overdone and generic. But i can see why it has mass appeal. But instead of booting the other 2 designs. Why not make all three. Illaoi needs skins and all three catered to a different audience. I'm an Illaoi main, i didn't voted for BC. But i would have bought deep space and adventurer Illaoi both.

M2cent

Chembaron YamadaNov 24, 20172 votes

It's not like the other 2 concepts are deleted, they went back in the concept folder. Maybe they will release one of them in the future.

But asking from them to create all 3 skins at once is a bit much. Especially since Illaoi demands additional work because of her tentacle models. Maybe in the future they could give at least a small reward for the other not chosen concepts, like Ward skins when the skin gets released.

QuephaNov 24, 20171 votes

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It's not like the other 2 concepts are deleted, they went back in the concept folder.

That's EXACTLY what it's like because "Back in the concept folder" doesn't mean anything. You might as well say "Riot took them to a farm up-state."

The fact that they had to do a vote on this meant that Riot was thinking "Oh wow these guys haven't had a skin in years and we aren't going to start making skins for her on a regular basis so we better make sure the one they get is something they really want." The dry spell after Battlecast could likely be even longer than the one we just had.

Noobinoob der IINov 26, 20172 votes

This game is played by 100 Million people.

Don't tell me they don't have enough artists to make all three.

Also Illaoi getting a skin is more than overdue!

Jhin came after her and already has 3.